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Republicans Trying One Last Time to Replace ObamaCare Before the 9.30.2017 Deadline.

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posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 10:17 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

You're looking for health coverage to be an entitlement, instead of "insurance". For that, you need the Bernie Sanders Medicare-for-all plan.

The majority of the people who buy ObamaCare plans can't afford to pay for the relatively few (but expensive) sick people who buy ObamaCare plans. They are the ones causing most of the health insurance companies to lose $$$ and leave the market.

With Graham-Cassidy repeal-replace, most states will set up a single-payer pool for high-cost individuals, and hire an insurance company to pay their medical bills.

The people who go into those pools will be the chronically ill, who cannot qualify for health insurance in the free market...the government will help pay their expensive premiums. That's exactly how it worked in Illinois before ObamaCare, and 92% of the residents here were satisfied with what they had. Obama phucked it all up.




posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 10:29 PM
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Welp, another couple pages of drivel b as sedan upon propaganda, misinformation and plain ol' partisan political stances.

Like I said way up thread "they" have you where they want you.

Arguing minutiae about policy, who's covered, who ain't, who's free, who's screwed, who pays, who gets thrown off cliff, who benefits, who dies, who suffers wampum etc. Is goal of those who make profit off of sick or potentially sick people.

The absolute simple question at hand and the question "they" don't want multitudes asking is,

Why so expensive?

Once the question is researchered then,

Why are not politicians upholding law?

Once that's answered,

Why as re politicians able to be bribed?

Once that is answered we have revolution.

TBTF will and has done everything in its power to keep you divided and asking questions - just not the correct questions.

Divided we fall, United we Stand.

Cost and only cost is issue all other is manufactured distraction.



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: Phoenix

Do you know how to start an online petition with those questions? I'm sure you'll get thousands of signatures, with me being one of them.

The question is, who all should these questions/petition be sent to for answers?



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 11:57 PM
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Bad News for residents of my home state...


The Illinois Department of Insurance submitted 2018 rates to the federal government Wednesday that would increase the average cost of the lowest-priced silver plans by 35 percent statewide. The lowest-priced bronze-level plans would increase, on average, by 20 percent, and the lowest-priced gold plans would increase by 16 percent, according to a department analysis obtained by the Tribune.

For example, a 21-year-old nonsmoker could pay $315 a month for the lowest-priced silver plan in Cook County next year, compared with $221 a month this year, according to the analysis. A 21-year-old nonsmoker in DuPage and Kane counties could pay $338 a month next year for the lowest-priced silver plan, versus $266 this year.
Source: www.chicagotribune.com...

This year, the average premium increase in Illinois was 38%...with 4 health insurance companies to choose from. For 2018, the average increase is 35%, with only 2 health insurance companies in most counties, and only 1 choice in the remaining counties.

Before ObamaCare, the 21 year old referenced in the article, would pay less than $90 a month for a BETTER plan than what ObamaCare will stick him with in 2018, for a whopping $338 @ month!

Repeal of ObamaCare can't come soon enough!



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 09:42 PM
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Round 3. Word.


And, the Medicaid Directors from all 50 states agree this GOP legislation is wrong, wrong, wrong.

The GOP has finally united America... against what they are standing for. The Republican agenda is pummeling this country with greed, on issue after issue.

Stop hurting people so your bank accounts can runneth over.



posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 10:06 PM
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a reply to: DancedWithWolves

Of course the MEDICAID Directors would be against anything that reduces the amount of money they get DIRECTLY from taxpayers.

Insurance companies, AARP, American Heart Association, Doctor Associations..blah blah blah, get their money In-directly from taxpayers, via the insanely large subsidies that the U.S. government provides. They don't give a damn about you or me. Just our cash. I interact with many of those entities that Jimmy Kimmel points to as "legitimate". BTW..Kimmel hates everything related to Trump. That alone reduces his credibility to ZERO with at least 50% of Americans.

ACA-ObamaCare architect Jonathan Gruber told Obama that the American people are so STUPID, that he can LIE TO THEIR FACE and they won't care, or remember.
Source: thehill.com...

Well..selfish Obama took that advice and began telling WHOPPER LIES all over the country, on television, Twitter, etc..

People who have to BUY ObamaCare, become visibly angry at the former President every time they think of those LIES. If the GOP doesn't repeal ObamaCare, those millions of individuals and families will vote them out of office, the same way they denied Hillary the Presidency.


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posted on Sep, 21 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

I couldn't disagree more.

This new GOP legislation is garbage and will cut off people from health care in ways no caring, compassionate person would do to another human being in person.

Digital egos have taken over and the distance is creating a false disassociation with one another. Put yourself in another's shoes. I've seen you do it.

Drastic cuts to health care dollars, loss of affordable coverage for pre-existing conditions, lifetime caps for treatment. No. Not going to happen.

America has figured out the latest GOP get richer quicker scheme and it's at the price of Grandma's nursing home care.

Not going to happen.

Stand up America.

I wish you well, if the Republicans get their way, you'll need it.

Peace



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:48 PM
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Friday 9.22.2017

Senator McCain has announced that he's against Repealing ObamaCare.

www.foxnews.com...

Only 2 Republicans remain undecided..If either Susan Collins (Maine) or Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) declare that they are against the Graham-Cassidy bill to Repeal/Replace ObamaCare, the effort is dead.

It will then be up to President Trump and Chuck Schumer to take action to Repair the badly broken ObamaCare.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:49 PM
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Republicans want single payer socialized medicine.

They want a larger, more intrusive government.

They suck just as badly as democrats.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: DancedWithWolves
a reply to: carewemust

I couldn't disagree more.

This new GOP legislation is garbage and will cut off people from health care in ways no caring, compassionate person would do to another human being in person.

Peace


What health insurance do you have, DancedWithWolves?



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
Republicans want single payer socialized medicine.

They want a larger, more intrusive government.

They suck just as badly as democrats.


I really don't care about their strategic goals any longer. It's the way they lie, just to get you to donate to them, and vote for them, that's most insulting.

Perhaps that's too strong though, since only a few Republican Congress people are breaking their 7-years of promises to the American people.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:55 PM
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Once again, it's McCain who killed Obamacare reform. Why am I not surprised?

I don't give a # what McCain did or did not do in Vietnam... the guy is a complete tool of the military-industrial complex, who is only too happy to start wars half a world away. He's been one of the worst anti-Trump Republicans the whole time.

That brain tumor can't kill him fast enough.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 01:58 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Rand Paul is the only (as far as I know) one who wants to repeal Obamacare.

Every spineless ass in congress wants to "replace" it.

So we have a crappy government program being replaced with a crappy government program.

Obama and every socialist should be laughing their asses off and clapping their little Marxist hands in glee.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
Once again, it's McCain who killed Obamacare reform. Why am I not surprised?

I don't give a # what McCain did or did not do in Vietnam... the guy is a complete tool of the military-industrial complex, who is only too happy to start wars half a world away. He's been one of the worst anti-Trump Republicans the whole time.

That brain tumor can't kill him fast enough.


Rand Paul is worse than John McCain. He would only vote "yes" if ObamaCare is cancelled outright, and let hundreds (thousands?) of seriously ill adults and children in his home state of Kentucky, simply DIE.

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posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Adding insult to injury, President Trump's HHS Secretary (Tom Price) is not taking available measures to help the middle-class individuals and families who can't afford $1500 a month health premiums.

I just left a 4 hour seminar on the subject. It's both saddening and anger-producing, when you see first-hand exactly how deep and wide the SWAMP is. ANY TRUMP ADMIN APPOINTEE who held a top-level government position, prior to being appointed, should be fired and replaced. Price...Sessions.. Can't trust them to do what's best for the American people.



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

And once again Trump's big mouth gets him in trouble. I bet McCain would be more than willing to deal if Trump hadn't attacked him during the campaign. Oh well, at least this little feud has once again saved us from a terrible healthcare "fix."



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 03:19 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Rand Paul is worse than John McCain. He would only vote "yes" if ObamaCare is cancelled outright, and let hundreds (thousands?) of seriously ill adults and children in his home state of Kentucky, simply DIE.


Do you expect better of a "doctor" (he doesn't even hold a Bachelors degree, and his doctor status is self accredited) who isn't even licensed to practice medicine in his home state?



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 03:20 PM
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Sometimes I think we're all screwed because the moment we're born choices were removed. It's more like a stage than is realized. And furthermore, I sometimes think ObamaCare is trying to do something too big. It might actually be better to give states more individual room to make these choices, and why? Because that's the only way the system can improve at this moment. It's like the water hitting the shore in waves. It comes and goes, but slowly rises. In the same manner, giving more choice to the states doesn't necessarily mean universal healthcare is dead--in fact, it's the opposite. If the system artificially rises, eventually the structural enclosure is compromised. An example in history might be the rise of Rome. Rome collapsed because it outgrew its means.

Just an idea. I think ObamaCare doesn't solve the underlying problem of costs, nor the problem of political strife. It has hte right aim--to get people access to healthcare, but it's one attempt in probably many. It's not like adding floors to a building. We're trying to build a city.

I'm sorry but that's the best I can do with this. I have a friend who's struggling with healthcare because of costs.
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posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

My insurance is partially paid through my employer. I also have college age kids who I can add to my insurance until they are 26 because of the ACA. And technically, if I were to go back working as a private contractor again, a pre-existing condition would make me virtually uninsurable, under this proposal.

I'm just one person but, the protections in the ACA represent how we would treat each other if we were face to face. So many people are facing very serious illnesses, or will. The ACA is caring, person to person, as if we knew one another. And cared openly for the other's wellbeing. Those protections matter.

More generally, the GOP wants to divest us of the liability and ignore the moral responsibility of being one within a larger citizenry.

About that though.

I'm pretty sure, back when homo sapiens sapiens were dwelling in caves, if there was an elderly person, or a child, or your spouse who was sick and suffering in the corner, The Clan of The Cavebear would have come to their aid with all resources available.

Progress? What does civilization stand for?

I'm thinking this proud country can do way better by its people.

Weeks ago there was a real bi-partisan effort to make improvements to the ACA. Then once again, the Republicans come racing back in, attempting a completely partisan (twice-failed) Repeal end run.

If they strike out a third time, will they finally do a frozen and, "Let it go?"

Thank you Sen. McCain, Sen. Sanders and Jimmy Kimmel.

The clock goes until the 30th.

Peace



posted on Sep, 22 2017 @ 07:22 PM
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originally posted by: DancedWithWolves
a reply to: carewemust

My insurance is partially paid through my employer. I also have college age kids who I can add to my insurance until they are 26 because of the ACA. And technically, if I were to go back working as a private contractor again, a pre-existing condition would make me virtually uninsurable, under this proposal.

I'm just one person but, the protections in the ACA represent how we would treat each other if we were face to face. So many people are facing very serious illnesses, or will. The ACA is caring, person to person, as if we knew one another. And cared openly for the other's wellbeing. Those protections matter.

More generally, the GOP wants to divest us of the liability and ignore the moral responsibility of being one within a larger citizenry.

About that though.

I'm pretty sure, back when homo sapiens sapiens were dwelling in caves, if there was an elderly person, or a child, or your spouse who was sick and suffering in the corner, The Clan of The Cavebear would have come to their aid with all resources available.

Progress? What does civilization stand for?

I'm thinking this proud country can do way better by its people.

Weeks ago there was a real bi-partisan effort to make improvements to the ACA. Then once again, the Republicans come racing back in, attempting a completely partisan (twice-failed) Repeal end run.

If they strike out a third time, will they finally do a frozen and, "Let it go?"

Thank you Sen. McCain, Sen. Sanders and Jimmy Kimmel.

The clock goes until the 30th.

Peace


One of the best posts I've ever seen

Thanks!




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