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Socialist Utopia of Venezuela Tells People to Eat Their Pets

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posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 12:39 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

What to do with some who DON'T like people then?
I know mostly those ,the rest are usually mentally sick(Colorado doesn't treat mental health like Schizophrenia to include hallucinations by hospitalization,they just WANDER around until they do something wrong or endanger themselves) or deserve to work.




posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: xuenchen
Right.
And the Nazis were socialists too. Right.

But never mind the party names. What's the constitution say? Before Maduro came along.


Yes they were in fact? Thus the name they gave themselves....The National Socialist German Workers Party. Just because people refer to it as far right doesn't make it so. It's right of communism though, and the tenets of the Party are socialistic. I always find it amusing when liberals try to make the workers party of Germany out to be right wing...,Comminism socialism and Fascism are all totalitarian in nature....that is they seek total control and domination o we the peoples



posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Bone75

What? Personal responsibility?


Yeah there ya go... bury your head in the sand and pretend that no one has been blown to pieces or starved to death to preserve the petro-dollar's dominance.
Venezuelas problems are by their own hand not the petro dollar. It's so silly when people just Willy milky blame stuff on the petro dollar and American Imoerialism. It's not that simple. Hugo Chavez' corruption and misuse of resources is well documented. .
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posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
Venezuela does not have a socialist government or society.

Your headline is inaccurate. Surprise.



They didn't start having major problems til after they nationalized the oil industry. Surprise.



posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: infolurker

Socialism is not the same as corrupt crony capitalism.


On paper anything can be made to appear wonderful.



posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 06:09 PM
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Don't know how true these stories are, but it sure sounds like a "Socialist" plan alright


So, you don't really know what socialism is, I see. Fair enough. So, Swedes only eat rabbits they raise themselves.
gottcha.



posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 06:36 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: xuenchen



Don't know how true these stories are, but it sure sounds like a "Socialist" plan alright


So, you don't really know what socialism is, I see. Fair enough. So, Swedes only eat rabbits they raise themselves.
gottcha.




I suggest you read up on Sweden. Big Government Socialism failed.

Poverty rates in Sweden are very low compared to the U.S. This is largely because Sweden was committed to ensuring full employment! Big Government Big Welfare State Socialism only took less than 30 years to bring them down.

Luckily, instead of "doubling-down" on stupid, they reversed course.


www.bostonglobe.com...




Scandinavia’s hard-left turn didn’t come about until much later. It was in the late 1960s and early 1970s that taxes soared, welfare payments expanded, and entrepreneurship was discouraged.

But what emerged wasn’t heaven on earth.

That 1976 story in Time, for example, went on to report that Sweden found itself struggling with crime, drug addiction, welfare dependency, and a plague of red tape. Successful Swedes — most famously, Ingmar Bergman — were fleeing the country to avoid its killing taxes. “Growing numbers are plagued by a persistent, gnawing question: Is their Utopia going sour?”

Sweden’s world-beating growth rate dried up. In 1975, it had been the fourth-wealthiest nation on earth (as measured by GDP per capita); by 1993, it had dropped to 14th. By then, Swedes had begun to regard their experiment with socialism as, in Sanandaji’s phrase, “a colossal failure.”



www.investors.com...



Sweden has been repealing its welfare state post-crisis. Norberg says the country has become "successful again, but only after a new reform period, with more deregulation and free trade than in other countries." Taxes have been cut, school vouchers allocated, and the pension system partially privatized as Sweden distances itself from its welfare-state past.



reason.com...




Sweden and the other Scandinavian countries have experimented with very big government and semi-socialist ideas. There's just one problem: That experiment coincided almost perfectly with the region's only sustained period of economic decline over the last 100 years.

Sanders' image of Scandinavia is just like the rest of his policies: stuck in the 1970s. Until that decade, Sweden and Denmark had grown much faster than other European countries and had become richer than most other countries on the planet, in large part by limiting government and embracing markets.


www.nationalreview.com...



During the past few decades, the Nordic countries have gradually been reforming their social systems. Taxes have been cut to stimulate work, public benefits have been limited in order to reduce welfare dependency, pension savings have been partially privatized, for-profit forces have been allowed in the welfare sector, and state monopolies have been opened up to the market. In short, the universal-welfare-state model is being liberalized. Even the social-democratic parties themselves realize the need for change. Curiously, the American admirers of Nordic-style democratic socialism pay no heed to any of these facts.



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posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: xuenchen



Don't know how true these stories are, but it sure sounds like a "Socialist" plan alright


So, you don't really know what socialism is, I see. Fair enough. So, Swedes only eat rabbits they raise themselves.
gottcha.




"Socialism" always goes back to the old standby -- Free Market Capitalism.

China and Vietnam are some current examples that are in "Transition".

The USSR failed and went all "Capitalist" too.




posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 09:10 PM
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posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 09:40 PM
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Reading the story in Spanish it seems that in Venezuela rabbits have been considered pets for a long time, and the communist regime under maduro says that they have to use all forms of media, newspaper, television, etc, to tell Venezuelans that rabbits are not pets, that they are 2.5 kilos of meat.

www.elnuevoherald.com...



posted on Sep, 18 2017 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

Venezuelas problems are by their own hand not the petro dollar. It's so silly when people just Willy milky blame stuff on the petro dollar and American Imoerialism. It's not that simple. Hugo Chavez' corruption and misuse of resources is well documented. .


I've already conceded that Venezuela is a failed Socialist state (at the moment) because they relied way too heavily on their oil profits. I will also concede that Chavez was a corrupt murderer and not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Will you concede that the United States worked together with the Saudis and others in the Middle East to drive down oil prices "in order to bring Iran to the negotiating table"?

Did any of these humanitarian petro-dollar nations anticipate or even care what would happen to Venezuela as a result?



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 01:41 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

The intended consequences of laissez faire capitialism.


Is that why nations are destroyed and oppressed when socialism takes over?... You know, after almost 100 years of "socialism" failing, you think the advocates of socialism would wise up. But you never do. You can't ever admit to your idealized socialist utopia being nothing but fantasies that never work, and in fact only give more and more power to the State.

The communist regime, imposing socialism in the nation is what caused the problems in Venezuela... The State taking down all media that would not publish positive stories of the regime. Just like the left in the United States are trying to do claiming that only left-wing sources are accurate when it has been proven to be nothing but lies.

The communist government took over all manufacturing, just like communism always does, and as the people of Venezuela grew hungry tens of thousands of pounds of food rotted in government warehouses...

The communist government destroyed capitalism by regulating all prices which caused many businesses to go bankrupt, and many others were taken over That's what nationalisation" does you know? The socialist regime implementing the traditional "socialist rationing system" which destroyed Cuba, the U.S.S.R. under Lenin and Stalin, North Korea, Burma, Vietnam, China, etc, etc, etc.

Every time, every country that ever implements socialism and even communism fails and becomes another socialist dictatorship.


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posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 05:45 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

Just like the left in the United States are trying to do claiming that only left-wing sources are accurate when it has been proven to be nothing but lies....


... says someone in a thread titled "Socialist Utopia of Venezuela Tells People to Eat Their Pets"




posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 07:31 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

Neoliberalism and privatisations failed, look at your public budgets. And at Norway. Or at Iceland not bailing out banks?

Nope... we have whole economies hooked on quantitative easing and perpetual wars on everything, supreme supreme! Is it a brave new drone state already?




posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: infolurker

Neoliberalism and privatisations failed, look at your public budgets. And at Norway. Or at Iceland not bailing out banks?

Nope... we have whole economies hooked on quantitative easing and perpetual wars on everything, supreme supreme! Is it a brave new drone state already?

Quantitative Easing is not really a true measure of free market Capitalism. It is rather a function of Keynesian type economics. When people say that Capitaluam in the Wear hasn't worked, they fail to take into account that we actually have a mixed economy which involves a mix of Capitalisn and socialism and sone Keynesian mechanics. Please don't forget that the Fed was created by the government giving greater control of our money supply to private bankers. It was never intended that way. Both Democrats and Republicans came up with bills to allow legislation of it. It was done during the tenure of a Democrat Potus. So there is both a central bank and a private institution run by corrupt people and is also a very interesting outpicturing of the so called public-private partnerships which are so prevalent in the Agenda 21 structure.
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posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: Bone75

So basically, Venezuelan socialism failed because "they didn't find the right people to run it"?



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus




Quantitative Easing is not really a true measure of free market Capitalism


Who on Ceres cares. Funny old socialism vs capitalism talking point stock exchange with no bearing on reality whatsoever. Another unfinished comic of sorts, stuff keeps piling up again.



posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Bone75

So basically, Venezuelan socialism failed because "they didn't find the right people to run it"?


Is that what I said?

Venezuelan socialism failed because Socialism sucks to begin with.

The deliberate crash in oil prices by us and our allies didn't help things either. And yes, competent leadership is required from all forms of government.

I am a Communist. I wish to do away with money, cut off most trade, become self-reliant, and put ourselves out of work through automation.

We won't fear oil crashes or stock market crashes or bubbles anymore.

Let that sink in a minute... we fear bubbles... bubbles! LMAO


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posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75

... says someone in a thread titled "Socialist Utopia of Venezuela Tells People to Eat Their Pets"



Pets in Spanish is "mascotas"

I gave a link in Spanish that does say Venezuelans see rabbits as pets.


Son bonitos y tiernos pero más que mascotas el régimen de Nicolás Maduro ve a los conejos como una solución a la severa escasez de alimentos que aflige a Venezuela y contempla un plan para su crianza masiva.
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Read more here: www.elnuevoherald.com...=cpy

The translation would be.

"They are cute and tender/fluffy, but more than pets the regime of Nicolas Maduro sees rabbits as a solution to the severe lack of food that is afflicting Venezuela and (the regime) contemplates a plan for their massive breeding"

Whats more further down in that link i gave it states:


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“Hay un problema cultural, que nos han enseñado que el conejo es una mascota bien bonita. Y sin duda alguna que el conejo es un animal bonito, es verdad, pero el conejo” podría ser una solución, aseveró Bernal.
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Read more here: www.elnuevoherald.com...=cpy

The translation would be:

" There is a cultural problem, that has taught us that the rabbit is a very beautiful pet. Without any doubt the rabbit is a beautiful animal, that is true, but rabbits could be a solution, asserted Bernal."


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posted on Sep, 19 2017 @ 10:37 PM
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This recipe, called conejo en coco, is a Venezuelan classic and comes from a native-born woman, Teresa Gallardo.


Venezuelan Style Rabbit and Coconut Stew



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