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California introduces bill forcing presidential candidates to release taxes

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posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

Jealous haters shouldn't even be allowed to vote to begin with.


LOL. Careful what you ask for.




posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I am not asking anything.

Nor am I making asinine laws in a state that supposedly hates one percenters, but only when there's an R by the names.



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: neo96

I don't see where Republicans are specified in the bill. Do you?


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posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: neo96

I don't see where Republicans are specified in the bill. Do you?



So what part of California that never votes Republican is someone missing ?



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Gryphon66

I am not asking anything.

Nor am I making asinine laws in a state that supposedly hates one percenters, but only when there's an R by the names.



It's really too bad more people don't see things the way you see them and do things the way you want them done, isn't it?

For me, it goes back to the Constitution. California has the right to run it's elections the way it chooses.

States rights, you know.



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: neo96



So what part of California that never votes Republican is someone missing ?
Besides being wrong about that, do you know what a primary election is?

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posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




It's really too bad more people don't see things the way you see them and do things the way you want them done, isn't it?


I don't care.




For me, it goes back to the Constitution. California has the right to run it's elections the way it chooses.


Not when it violates that piece of paper.

Namely the fourth.



The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


www.law.cornell.edu...

And the Ninth.



Amendment IX The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


www.law.cornell.edu...

They have no power to invade a persons privacy.

Because the IRS is a FEDERAL AGENCY.

Therefore 'state rights' is straight up BULL SNIP.



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: neo96



So what part of California that never votes Republican is someone missing ?
Besides being wrong about that, do you know what a primary election is?


Name the last time California voted for a Republican president ?

40 years ago?



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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They have no power to invade a persons privacy.

You mean like demanding birth certifications, and college transcripts and stuff.

Being placed on the primary ballot is voluntary. Don't want to show your tax return? Don't put your name on the ballot.



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: Phage

The way California election laws work you must qualify for the primary to be listed on the ballot for the general.

Even the op source is stating this.


If this holds, Trump would have to submit them to the state when he runs for re-election, or he could be considered ineligible to appear on the ballot in the primary and general election.


Thinking requirements for the primary dont roll over into the general is naive. Especially when it comes to Donald Trump.

I also thinks its sad and pathetic California would attempt this while refusing to deal with illegal / fraudulent voting by non citizens.



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: neo96



So what part of California that never votes Republican is someone missing ?
Besides being wrong about that, do you know what a primary election is?


Name the last time California voted for a Republican president ?

40 years ago?


1988.
But this is about the primary. A republican always wins the republican primary.



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
They have no power to invade a persons privacy.


How are you still a private citizen when you are running for public office?



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Yeah, been there, done that.

So tell me, where is the Constitutional right to be on a State's ballot?



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 01:03 PM
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Being placed on the primary ballot is voluntary. Don't want to show your tax return? Don't put your name on the ballot.


Funny.

Your way or the highway eh.




You mean like demanding birth certifications, and college transcripts and stuff


Way to move that goal post.

The only thing that was created in to law ratified by everyone was being a natural born citizen.

The rest is complete garage that doesn't even enter into the voting process.

For millions of Americans it only comes down to two little letters.

R and D.

Republican and Democrat.



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 01:04 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: neo96
They have no power to invade a persons privacy.


How are you still a private citizen when you are running for public office?


Because someone has to be voted in to office.

Right up until sworn in.

They are private citizens.



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 01:05 PM
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The way California election laws work you must qualify for the primary to be listed on the ballot for the general.
You have not demonstrated that. I have asked that you show me where that is specified in California ballot laws.


Even the op source is stating this.
What? CNN?



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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Way to move that goal post.

No, you were concerned about privacy, weren't you? Yes, you were:

They have no power to invade a persons privacy.



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
Because someone has to be voted in to office.

Right up until sworn in.

They are private citizens.


The are declaring for public offices, not chairman of the board for a private entity. Candidates for Federal Offices must register with the FEC and disclose certain aspects of their financing already since they are soliciting votes from the public.


Do I need to disclose my personal financial information?

Yes. Candidates for federal office must file disclosures of their personal finances. Contact the appropriate office for more information: candidates for the US House of Representatives should contact the House Committee on Ethics at (202) 225-7103; candidates for the US Senate should contact the Senate Select Committee on Ethics at (202) 224-2981; candidates for US President and Vice President should review a Legal Advisory issued by the Office of Government Ethics and contact the FEC's Office of General Counsel at (800) 424-9530 (x1650). (Personal financial disclosure reports filed by Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates (excluding the incumbent) are available from the FEC's Public Records Office at (800) 424-9530 (press 2) and, after certification, on the Office of Government Ethics' website.) See also this Record article on Preparing for the Next Election.




edit on 17-9-2017 by AugustusMasonicus because: I ♥ cheese pizza.



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: neo96

Yeah, been there, done that.

So tell me, where is the Constitutional right to be on a State's ballot?


Article 3 section 1 of the US Constitution and the 12th amendment and an argument could be made for the 24th amendment as well.



posted on Sep, 17 2017 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: Phage
Let me begin with saying that no one gives up ownership to their thoughts when the post here on ATS or anywhere. Those posted thoughts should be attributed to that poster, anyone claiming that the posted thoughts of another are their own is committing plagiarism. See how it works?
You can not FORCE someone to voluntary do something. California has 55 Electoral College Votes, that is a major chunk of the Electoral College total. This isn't a voluntary waiving of a right, This is Blackmail.
" We have a nice bunch of Electoral Votes here in California, It would be a shame if you lost them by not playing ball our way."
edit on 17-9-2017 by TheSemiSkeptic because: grammar correction



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