posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 03:28 AM
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
There seems to be quite a bit of confusion over the identity of the gypsies. The term gypsie is a broad term used to describe a number of totally
Gypsie also is used to refer to the people known as Pikeys here in England. Also known as "Travellers". They have no genetic or true cultural
relation to the Romany gypsies, other than a nomadic lifestyle. My husband is English, and when I asked him what Pikeys were, he told me they were
criminals and vermin. He used the term gypsy, but made it clear that the Travellers were NOT the same as Romany gypsies.
I worked with a few Travelers over the years.
A number of them work in the construction industry.
Most are Irish Travelers.(they mostly work construction legal or not,(many states require licensing of construction trade workers and apprenticeships,
Travelers train there kids and there kids train there kids and don't believe in state licensing))
But some are Scottish Travelers.(many called themselves Carny's and work traveling Carnivals)
My grandfather was a Carny.
Both Irish and Scottish travelers speak Shelta ((the Cant)Gammon). Most Shelta/Gammon words were formed from Irish/Scottish Gaelic. Some scottish
travelers also use Beurla Reagaird(highlands cant)
Gradum a gradum.
The Pike(short for Pikey) in Long Beach Calif was the west coast meeting place for both Irish and Scottish travelers
Now days few old time scottish travelers work carny. and Carny Cant has changed to a carny slang.