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For the undying 9/11 MORONIC JET FUEL ARGUMENT

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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux
That, and the photos of all of those pieces of the aircraft lying outside of the building immediately after the crash with the fire still burning.
Then there was the National Guard C-130 pilot that was diverted to watch Flight 77, that watched it crash into the Pentagon and reported to ATC in real time.




posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Salander




just as some other spooks PLANNED the events of 11 September.

Prove it.

Others have had 16 years to prove it and failed.
Give it your best shot.


The Sep 11th war game exercises were intended to cripple the response to 9/11 by confusing military controllers and other personnel.

"Stand down"

Resulting in a guarantee that the hijackers' attacks succeeded.

Planned.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: kyleplatinum




"Stand down"

Resulting in a guarantee that the hijackers' attacks succeeded.

Planned.

Show the exact time that the stand down order was issued.

Show proof that the stand down was issued for the defense of DC and NOT stand down from the war games.
Context is everything and truthers tend to skew the context just to prop up their crazy theories.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 07:55 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux


You and others want me to believe a nonsensical story that demands the laws of physics were suspended on 11 September in the Northeast US and at WTC.

Sorry dude, we don't and shall not share the same fantasies. You are entitled to believe the laws of physics were suspended, but I know better.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: Salander

Strange when you always claim you know about physics you dont except any challenge disappear for a few posts then comment on other posts
just fkn



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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believe a nonsensical story that demands the laws of physics were suspended on 11 Septembe

By nonsensical do you mean :
Silent nuclear explosions?
Space rays powered by hurricanes?
Fizzle thermite that propels steel beams at 60mph?



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux


You and others want me to believe a nonsensical story that demands the laws of physics were suspended on 11 September in the Northeast US and at WTC.

Sorry dude, we don't and shall not share the same fantasies. You are entitled to believe the laws of physics were suspended, but I know better.


State your case. Still waiting on you to explain how the mythical AE 9/11 Truth fizzle no flash explosives caused inward bowing and buckling of outer vertical columns leading to collapse. Proof of their use.

Or how the mythical cutting fizzle no flash explosives had enough propulsion to caused lateral ejection easily explain by colliding chunks of building.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: kyleplatinum




"Stand down"

Resulting in a guarantee that the hijackers' attacks succeeded.

Planned.

Show the exact time that the stand down order was issued.

Show proof that the stand down was issued for the defense of DC and NOT stand down from the war games.
Context is everything and truthers tend to skew the context just to prop up their crazy theories.


On September 11th, NORAD failed to do their job 4 times in a single day.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 09:20 PM
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originally posted by: kyleplatinum

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: kyleplatinum




"Stand down"

Resulting in a guarantee that the hijackers' attacks succeeded.

Planned.

Show the exact time that the stand down order was issued.

Show proof that the stand down was issued for the defense of DC and NOT stand down from the war games.
Context is everything and truthers tend to skew the context just to prop up their crazy theories.


On September 11th, NORAD failed to do their job 4 times in a single day.

So you can't answer the questions.
Typical for people who believe in conspiracies.

One more question:
On Sep,10,2001 what was Norads official job?



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: samkent

originally posted by: kyleplatinum

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: kyleplatinum




"Stand down"

Resulting in a guarantee that the hijackers' attacks succeeded.

Planned.

Show the exact time that the stand down order was issued.

Show proof that the stand down was issued for the defense of DC and NOT stand down from the war games.
Context is everything and truthers tend to skew the context just to prop up their crazy theories.


On September 11th, NORAD failed to do their job 4 times in a single day.

So you can't answer the questions.
Typical for people who believe in conspiracies.

One more question:
On Sep,10,2001 what was Norads official job?


A conspiracist that will not answer a question?

A conspiracist that uses information out of context?

Say it ain't so.

And they wonder why the truth movement has no credibility?
edit on 23-12-2017 by neutronflux because: Fixed



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Salander




believe a nonsensical story that demands the laws of physics were suspended on 11 Septembe

By nonsensical do you mean :
Silent nuclear explosions?
Space rays powered by hurricanes?
Fizzle thermite that propels steel beams at 60mph?


No, I mean like POTUS not even interested in having an investigation about what happened that day. He actually fought against it, but then gave in. That kind of nonsensical.

Or the kind of nonsensical when Senator Mark Dayton, after comparing time lines printed in the report, called NORAD a bunch of liars. That kind of silliness, as to just what to believe from this final report.

Or nonsensical as in the chairmen of the commission both stating in public that their commission had been set up to fail.

That kind of bat# crazy stuff, nonsensical.

And there is so muc



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Salander




believe a nonsensical story that demands the laws of physics were suspended on 11 Septembe

By nonsensical do you mean :
Silent nuclear explosions?
Space rays powered by hurricanes?
Fizzle thermite that propels steel beams at 60mph?


No, I mean like POTUS not even interested in having an investigation about what happened that day. He actually fought against it, but then gave in. That kind of nonsensical.

Or the kind of nonsensical when Senator Mark Dayton, after comparing time lines printed in the report, called NORAD a bunch of liars. That kind of silliness, as to just what to believe from this final report.

Or nonsensical as in the chairmen of the commission both stating in public that their commission had been set up to fail.

That kind of bat# crazy stuff, nonsensical.

And there is so muc


What does this have to do with the fact....

You have tried to push nukes were used at the WTC. A false narrative totally void of evidence and sciences facts. A narrative totally out of pseudoscience.

What does your rant have to do with actual eyewitness accounts, collapse video, and physical evidence.

Do you have proof to supersede:

The towers were brought down by impact/fire/thermal stress leading to inward bowing and buckling of columns.

The damage at the pentagon was caused by a large commercial jet impact.

The scattering of human remains, jet wreckage, the burying of jet wreckage, and the scorching of trees at the shanksville crash site was caused by the impact of a large commercial jet.

edit on 24-12-2017 by neutronflux because: Added and fixed



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 09:24 PM
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originally posted by: samkent

originally posted by: kyleplatinum

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: kyleplatinum




"Stand down"

Resulting in a guarantee that the hijackers' attacks succeeded.

Planned.

Show the exact time that the stand down order was issued.

Show proof that the stand down was issued for the defense of DC and NOT stand down from the war games.
Context is everything and truthers tend to skew the context just to prop up their crazy theories.


On September 11th, NORAD failed to do their job 4 times in a single day.

So you can't answer the questions.
Typical for people who believe in conspiracies.

One more question:
On Sep,10,2001 what was Norads official job?


Ok



On September 11th, NORAD failed to do their job 4 times in a single day.

True or false?




Typical for people who believe in conspiracies.

Prove the "conspiracies" are false. Get off your one way street.




On Sep,10,2001 what was Norads official job?

The 10th was irrelevant.

Surprised you didnt want me to tell you what cheney had for breakfast on 9/11.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: kyleplatinum

originally posted by: samkent

originally posted by: kyleplatinum

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: kyleplatinum




"Stand down"

Resulting in a guarantee that the hijackers' attacks succeeded.

Planned.

Show the exact time that the stand down order was issued.

Show proof that the stand down was issued for the defense of DC and NOT stand down from the war games.
Context is everything and truthers tend to skew the context just to prop up their crazy theories.


On September 11th, NORAD failed to do their job 4 times in a single day.

So you can't answer the questions.
Typical for people who believe in conspiracies.

One more question:
On Sep,10,2001 what was Norads official job?


Ok



On September 11th, NORAD failed to do their job 4 times in a single day.

True or false?




Typical for people who believe in conspiracies.

Prove the "conspiracies" are false. Get off your one way street.




On Sep,10,2001 what was Norads official job?

The 10th was irrelevant.

Surprised you didnt want me to tell you what cheney had for breakfast on 9/11.

You are avoiding the questions.
On Sept 10 was Norads mission to defend against nuke missiles and bombers coming from outside the US borders?
or
Attacking US passenger airliners from within?
There is a huge difference between the two.
You can't say they failed to do their job if that wasn't part of their job.
Can you prove Norad interceptors were trained to distinguish between a B767 and A340 in crowded passenger airspace?

Look you can be upset that there was no protection from an unheard of attack.
But that doesn't mean they failed to do their job.

Can you tell us who's job it is to protect LA harbor from a hijacked LNG tanker ship?



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:23 PM
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TextLook you can be upset that there was no protection from an unheard of attack. 

It was not an unheard-of attack. They were training for the exact attack that happened. It was common knowledge.

NORAD 100% failed to protect on 9/11. Was it on purpose or on accident?

The successful attack was proof of the failure.



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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The key to the success was Vigilant Guardian. Without that, likely NORAD would have responded as it did on the day of the Payne Stewart incident.

The planning inside was brilliant. That is another reason we know it was an inside job.



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: kyleplatinum
a reply to: samkent




TextLook you can be upset that there was no protection from an unheard of attack. 

It was not an unheard-of attack. They were training for the exact attack that happened. It was common knowledge.

NORAD 100% failed to protect on 9/11. Was it on purpose or on accident?

The successful attack was proof of the failure.



Please do cite a source to prove this is true. Or is it a blatant false argument by you?




NORAD’s Performance on 9/11 and Hollow Conspiracy Theories

m.huffpost.com...


Gradually — and still before 9/11 — NORAD was assigned additional missions and responsibilities. Among these, the support of counter-drugs operations, including the tracking of small aircraft entering or operating within the U.S. and Canada. Commercial aircraft were not perceived to be a threat then ...

Interestingly, only three months before 9/11, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff issued Joint Staff Instruction CVJCSI 3610.01A, instructing NORAD on how to deal with “AIRCRAFT PIRACY (HIJACKING) AND DESTRUCTION OF DERELICT AIRBORNE OBJECTS.”

The instruction specified that NORAD will provide “escort service” when requested by “the FAA Hijack Coordinator,” and specifically excluded the “use of military aircraft (fixed-wing or helicopter) or other vehicles as platforms for gunfire or the use of other weapons against suspected hijackers.”

The FAA with its sophisticated network of hundreds of radars and air traffic control systems has the equipment, capabilities and responsibility for tracking, controlling and coordinating the thousands of aircraft flying the U.S. skies. (The morning of Sept. 11, “there were more than 4,500 aircraft in the air on Instrument Flight Rules flight plans“).




posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: kyleplatinum


The key to the success was Vigilant Guardian. Without that, likely NORAD would have responded as it did on the day of the Payne Stewart incident.

The planning inside was brilliant. That is another reason we know it was an inside job.


Please state the standard operating procedure or standing order that would have allowed them to respond, and what directive would have gave them the ability to engage a hijacked aircraft with armed military aircraft?




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