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Breaking now. Explosion on Underground train Parsons green

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posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 03:46 AM
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Huh, I was better in bomb making when I was 10 years old. I was in to chemistry a lot at that time and substances were readily available at common drugstores. Later my laboratory (hidden in abandoned small water station) was raided by police chemical squat. I had luck, because I was only 14 years old so there were no legal troubles despite fact they recovered kilo of black powder, few grams of explosive mercury and few construction pipes turned to shrapnels. Thanks God computers came in. Otherwise I would end without eyes, fingers or hands.

BTW I tested my homemade shoulder rocket launcher. Rocket exploded in the barrel and from that time my right ear is weaker.
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posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 03:46 AM
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originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: nonspecific

I believe that it was meant to be a weak noise maker, rush hour and a loud noise makes for panic or it is a distraction for something else??


What makes you think that?

Seems a bit complex for a noise and lots of evidence left over? something a lot smaller could make a big bang in a confined area like a firework or small homemade explosive device?



Big makes it look scarier and a firework would look like a prank?


Could be but it does make me think that whoever came up with the plan might be a bit on the thick side.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 03:46 AM
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Any chemistry experts weigh in here? There are haz chem units on site. What would cause a flash over type ignition? Sounds almost like a chemical attack than a failed device from the description so far.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 03:47 AM
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a reply to: nonspecific




Lidl is good but the products are shoddy at best.


Then how is it good? This is my first time hearing of it. Apparently it's in the US now too. I've never heard anyone say that a company is god but it's products suck. I don't get it.

So is it like WalMart or Fred Meyer (love Fred Meyer, might just be in the PNW though)? Everything under one roof?

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It's pretty rare for a vape (I assume you are saying e-cig) to actually have a thermal runaway, though clearly not unheard of. These days you have to be kind of an idiot to have it happen. Certainly plausible, but I kinda doubt it.

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Hoping it was just some stupid accident and that nobody was seriously hurt (or hurt at all).



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 03:48 AM
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a reply to: PlasticWizard

Weird there are pictures of this, whether before or after.

If before, f snapchat ... Run.

If after, why is nothing burnt around it.
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posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 03:48 AM
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I think if it was an accident we would know by now, had it been an accident whoevers bag it was would have told the police what happened.

(This is now just assumptions)
If it is a bomb then where is the person that left it there? Was it left there or did it go off early? Was the person (s) on there way to another target for a bigger attack.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 03:49 AM
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a reply to: nonspecific

Sick is more like it, now a lot of people are going to be spending their day on edge.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 03:49 AM
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originally posted by: kountzero
Any chemistry experts weigh in here? There are haz chem units on site. What would cause a flash over type ignition? Sounds almost like a chemical attack than a failed device from the description so far.


A botched chemical attack does sound a bit more plausable but I think they would have chemical units there as standard practice regardless.

Some kind of rudimentary chemical smoke device would make more sense to me than a crap bomb.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 03:51 AM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: nonspecific

Sick is more like it, now a lot of people are going to be spending their day on edge.


This is England, most folks will be more annoyed at the thought of getting home late on a friday evening due to delays if anything.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 03:51 AM
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originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: nonspecific




Lidl is good but the products are shoddy at best.



It's pretty rare for a vape (I assume you are saying e-cig) to actually have a thermal runaway, though clearly not unheard of. These days you have to be kind of an idiot to have it happen. Certainly plausible, but I kinda doubt it.



Agreed, its the mechanical mods that go boom and only very rarely. The explodong storys you hear are mostly propaganda from the tobacco companys



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 03:55 AM
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originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: kountzero
Any chemistry experts weigh in here? There are haz chem units on site. What would cause a flash over type ignition? Sounds almost like a chemical attack than a failed device from the description so far.


A botched chemical attack does sound a bit more plausable but I think they would have chemical units there as standard practice regardless.

Some kind of rudimentary chemical smoke device would make more sense to me than a crap bomb.



London ambulance sent there hazardous area response team there



HART teams are made up of emergency medical personnel, such as paramedics who have undergone specialised training in the use of special procedures, skills and vehicles & equipment.[1] Their specialised equipment includes personal protective equipment (such as breathing apparatus, "Hazmat suits", and climbing tethers for working at height), cutting equipment for extrication, and flotation devices and rafts for working on water



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 04:01 AM
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a reply to: kamatty

Lithium batteries may explode in case of charger malfunction. They should not explode "per se" or if they are short circuited.

May first thought was that somebody was transporting petrol in the bucket. Petrol may explode in some plastic containers, but if 10 liters of petrol explodes in subway carriage, almost everybody there would sustain significant burns if not other injuries. But passengers report a "wall of fire" ... may be firecracker near of half liter of some organic solvent may do this effect.

Or small can of lighter gas (propane). It is consistent with almost no burn marks on the plastic bucket. Liquid explosive would probably set the bucket and near objects on fire .
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posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 04:04 AM
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There are wires coming out of the tub - that makes the idea that it's a tub of paint or food a bit unlikely.

Perhaps the detonator fired but failed to detonate the explosive?

EDIT - there was apparently a wall of flame, people are tweeting pics of their head with all of their hair burnt and singed.

99% it was a failed bomb attack, there's apparently a second one being disarmed by the bomb squad, and there was a man with a knife at the station, but amazingly the Police don't think that's linked to this.

So apparently we're in such a mess that if you don't get blown up, the other nutter with the knife will stab you for something else?
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posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 04:15 AM
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originally posted by: Power_Semi
There are wires coming out of the tub - that makes the idea that it's a tub of paint or food a bit unlikely.

Perhaps the detonator fired but failed to detonate the explosive?

EDIT - there was apparently a wall of flame, people are tweeting pics of their head with all of their hair burnt and singed.

99% it was a failed bomb attack, there's apparently a second one being disarmed by the bomb squad, and there was a man with a knife at the station, but amazingly the Police don't think that's linked to this.

So apparently we're in such a mess that if you don't get blown up, the other nutter with the knife will stab you for something else?


If unrelated I bet the dude with the knife feels a bit daft right now.

it makes me think of the "don't take a knife to a gunfight" thing but on a far bigger scale.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 04:17 AM
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a reply to: JanAmosComenius

Someone has commented on one of the forums that if you look at one of photos you can clearly see gas canister. I have looked and can see what they mean. Same photo is on first page of this thread at the bottom. Black material is sitting on top of something in middle. Lots of people with burns and hair loss. Just breaking on Sky it is being treated as terrorist related.

I wonder if the Lidl bag is of any significance? Thought it was German owned and thousands from Cologne in London last night watching football. Could be someone who has come over?
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posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 04:19 AM
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No-one ever said that every terrorist is a genius with bomb making links/skills, plus, there will always be kids who think its funny and clever who may right now be laughing at their 'prank' (until they get lifted and they will)!



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 04:20 AM
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originally posted by: anxiouswens
a reply to: JanAmosComenius

Someone has commented on one of the forums that if you look at one of photos you can clearly see gas canister. I have looked and can see what they mean. Same photo is on first page of this thread. Lots of people with burns and hair loss. Just breaking on Sky it is being treated as terrorist related.

I wonder if the Lidl bag is of any significance? Thought it was German owned and thousands from Cologne in London last night watching football. Could be someone who has come over?


We have plenty of lidls in england. If there is any significance in the bag its that its there freezer bag which is foil lined and almost airtight sealed at the top.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 04:20 AM
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originally posted by: anxiouswens
a reply to: JanAmosComenius

Someone has commented on one of the forums that if you look at one of photos you can clearly see gas canister. I have looked and can see what they mean. Same photo is on first page of this thread. Lots of people with burns and hair loss. Just breaking on Sky it is being treated as terrorist related.

I wonder if the Lidl bag is of any significance? Thought it was German owned and thousands from Cologne in London last night watching football. Could be someone who has come over?


There are thousands of Lidl shops in England, I doubt it has anything to do with Colgone fans.



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 04:22 AM
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originally posted by: anxiouswens
a reply to: JanAmosComenius

Someone has commented on one of the forums that if you look at one of photos you can clearly see gas canister. I have looked and can see what they mean. Same photo is on first page of this thread.



Can you point out where the gas canister is in the photo?



posted on Sep, 15 2017 @ 04:23 AM
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originally posted by: anxiouswens
a reply to: JanAmosComenius

Someone has commented on one of the forums that if you look at one of photos you can clearly see gas canister. I have looked and can see what they mean. Same photo is on first page of this thread at the bottom. Black material is sitting on top of something in middle. Lots of people with burns and hair loss. Just breaking on Sky it is being treated as terrorist related.

I wonder if the Lidl bag is of any significance? Thought it was German owned and thousands from Cologne in London last night watching football. Could be someone who has come over?


There are about 20 Lidls in central London so I imagine that it was from here and those bags are about the best and strongest ones you can get from a supermarket.




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