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Originally posted by Seekerof
Kim and North Korea have been on a road to implosion anyhow. There is no need to "invade" or provoke war. US foreign policy towards North Korea has been amounting to pretty much a containment policy that further allows favorable conditions for that implosion of Kim and North Korea. It s simply just a matter of time before his own people will take him out or remove him. Food is so scarce in North Korea, despite their increased agro-programs, that millions are dying of starvation. The people themselves will rid of Kim or a military coup will do it for the people. Conditions are and will continue to deteriorate in North Korea, it's simply amounts to taking a back seat and watching for that self-destruction (implosion).
seekerof
Originally posted by DrHoracid
Originally posted by paranoia
Originally posted by DrHoracid
ALL diplomacy is stupid. Beat the enemy into submission. Total, complete surrender. They must be made to understand, pursue nukes and DIE.
That doesn't quite work though does it? when you talk about Nukes, the last thing you want to do on either side is "beat the enemy into submission". Oh dear.
It is the only way it works with nukes. Complete total destruction of the enemy before they can strike back. Overwhelming force. Negotiating only allows the enemy to gain strength. Kill it NOW.
as posted by DrHoracid
OH, man there ya go being all logical and full of real info. But what about that ICBM wreckage in the Pacific NW?
Originally posted by phreak_of_nature
So it would seem as if the Bush policy has actually propelled North Korea into stepping up it's production of a nuclear bomb, which they now have completed.
quote: Originally posted by DrHoracid
ALL diplomacy is stupid
Bush’s tone was in stark contrast to three years ago, when he branded North Korea part of an “axis of evil” with Iran and Iraq, raising hopes of a positive response from North Korea. From MSN
North Korea’s "nuclear weapons will remain (a) nuclear deterrent for self-defense under any circumstances," the ministry said. "The present reality proves that only powerful strength can protect justice and truth." from MSN
Originally posted by Seekerof
as posted by DrHoracid
OH, man there ya go being all logical and full of real info. But what about that ICBM wreckage in the Pacific NW?
As much as I have come to your rescue here of late, I would think a little more respect would be warrented? (just joking, then again.....)
And that wreckage is supposed to cause the US to invade North Korea, DrHoracid?
It does nothing but further pad and prove what we (the US) have been asserting all along, doesn't it? It serves as further confirmation, nothing more.
I thought I was a war-hawk. Sheeeesh! They might not even have a classification for your status DrHoracid, eh?
seekerof
[edit on 10-2-2005 by Seekerof]
Originally posted by DrHoracid
N Korea has nukes now. They also have a very large standing army. They need to be "stopped" before they can do anymore damage. If that means crazy Kim alone or the entire population it needs to be done and soon.
Originally posted by infinite
China is a neutral state that does want North Korea to support buidling nuclear weapons. Just because the two states are communist, does not mean there is a "conspiracy" between the two. Secondly, i can see China has become a popular topic throughout ATS in the last months. Are the Americans jealous that another country will take over from them?? whats wrong?? jealous that China will be the next superpower??? AWWWWWW poor America...
China is a peaceful nation that will not cause any threat to America. The US propapganda, which is be aimed at China, is perthetic. I cannot see China attacking the US in the future or being the "dark player" in the world. I am put up an offer to any member of ATS to prove to me, with actual facts, that China is planning to or going to attack America.
Finally, do you really want a war with North Korea?? this is a country that does not give a damn if they get destroyed. All this is, is an attention seeking game by the North Koreans to gain international attention. Bush probably doesnt want a war with North Korea, only if its last option, due to the fact that it would envolve Nulcear weapons and the loss of life would be beyond words.