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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: ancienthistorian
That’s a little bit beyond the truth. The group of religions we call Hinduism has grown out a group of cultural influences, one of which was Indo-European.
From here we get the idea the Aryans (early Indo-Europeans, not the nonsense that the Nazi’s and other people masturbate too) came from the urheimat (homeland), and took over the Indus Valley culture.
Indo-Europeans? Well you and I are typing in an Indo-European language (English, a Germanic Languge, which is a branch on the IE language family tree). Chances are there were people who did not quite appear as we’d thing Indian Sub continent people did amongst that group.
So no I don’t see Hinduism as racist, not in the modern sense.
If we were going for that line of thought (lets try) the Asier of the northern Germanic people, fought with the Vanier, who might have been non Indo-European inhabitants of Scandinavia? The Tuatha de Dannan beat the Fir Bolg, who might have been non IE Irish etc etc. The legends of Giants (Jötunns), cyclopes , Fomorians, Ettin etc, are very not complimentary on many potentially not Indo-European people. They were evil, and deformed. Are we thus saying all these are racist too? Who knows perhaps they are?
I’ve bigger issue with a caste system still in existence in the modern world to be honest.
Old French blo, bleu "pale, pallid, wan, light-colored; blond; discolored; blue, blue-gray,"
This is from PIE *bhle-was "light-colored, blue, blond, yellow," from root *bhel- (1) "to shine, flash, burn," also "shining white" and forming words for bright colors. The same PIE root yielded Latin flavus "yellow," Old Spanish blavo "yellowish-gray," Greek phalos "white," Welsh blawr "gray," showing the slipperiness of definition in Indo-European color-words.
The exact color to which the Gmc. term applies varies in the older dialects; M.H.G. bla is also 'yellow,' whereas the Scandinavian words may refer esp. to a deep, swarthy black, e.g. O.N. blamaðr, N.Icel. blamaður 'Negro' [Buck]
"a hard hit (with a fist)," mid-15c., blaw, blowe, from northern and East Midlands dialects, perhaps from Middle Dutch blouwen "to beat," or an unrecorded Old English cognate. The ordinary Old English word for "to strike" was slean (see slay
"move air, produce a current of air," Old English blawan "to blow (of the wind, bellows, etc.), breathe, make an air current; kindle; inflate; sound (a wind instrument)" (class VII strong verb; past tense bleow, past participle blawen), from Proto-Germanic *blæ-anan (source of Old High German blaen, German blähen), from PIE root *bhle- "to blow."
What is the cast system?
The Hindu caste system is unique in the world, but resembles in some ways Plato's ideal society of philosophers, warriors and commoners. A caste is a division of society based on occupation and family lineage. Hindu caste system recognized four distinct classes or divisions among people based on these criteria and enforced it through a rigid code of conduct that was specific to each class and rooted in the dharmashastras (law books) of the later Vedic period.
Caste System has been the bane of Hindu society for centuries. In terms of impact, it did much greater damage for a much longer period to a great many people than the slave system of the western world or the witch-hunting practices of medieval Europe. The Hindu caste system was a clever invention of the later Vedic society, justified by a few law makers.
Non-Vedic Character of Caste System
The Vedic priests did not bring with them the caste system. The early Vedic people had a flexible social organization in which people could change their vocations easily. Different members within the same family practiced different vocations. But as they came into contact with hostile tribes and competing traditions, they resorted to caste system to preserve their identity as a group. Some form of caste system was already in vogue in ancient India 6, which in all probability the Vedic people adopted to maintain their racial purity and family lineages. This is evident from the fact in the entire Rigveda there is no reference to the caste system except in the Purusha sukta which is considered by many scholars as a later day interpolation.
originally posted by: SpeakerofTruth
Yeah, Hindus and Buddhists are just so "evil." In the meantime, some bomb just exploded in a crowded shopping district after someone just shouted Allahu Akbar... But Hindus and Buddhists are "evil."
Hindu mobs rampaged through this city in western India on Thursday, killing more than 60 people as they burned Muslims alive in their homes and set fire to Muslim-owned restaurants, shops, cars and apartments.