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Irrefutable evidence that 9/11 was a government false flag

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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 05:18 PM
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Has anybody let the OP know that ATS has an entire forum dedicated solely to 9/11 theories where most, if not all, of the "evidence" here has been posted for like....years?




posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 06:44 PM
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I know. I see they are excited and new, but around here this is old news.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: SRPrime
Paper passports survived? LOL.


Passport explained.






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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: usos90




...and I'm telling you be prepared for a major attack... but it won't be Osama Bin Laden, it will be those behind the New World Order who once again wants to take the guns and freedom away from the American people


Damn!....you Americans lost your guns and freedom once again?

How many times is that now?



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

It's a pretty big pile of evidence, more than circumstancial evidence I'd say. But good call, it's really worth the dive.



Also, not irrefutable! I feel click baited, that's sad. SAD!




posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 08:29 PM
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If the government was going to pull off a big, clandestine false flag operation what would be the point of alerting the press of it beforehand?

Seems a bit counterproductive, no?



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: SRPrime




Paper passports survived? LOL.


Yes they do .....

Passport survived shootdown of Malaysian airline MH 17

www.youtube.com...



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: Argyll
a reply to: usos90




...and I'm telling you be prepared for a major attack... but it won't be Osama Bin Laden, it will be those behind the New World Order who once again wants to take the guns and freedom away from the American people


Damn!....you Americans lost your guns and freedom once again?

How many times is that now?



I actually think the US constitution needs to be repealed.

For crying out loud it's a 17th century document written by slave owners. The constitution is not relevant for today's cultural mindset or mass society.

The constitution needs to be banned in my opinion.

William Cooper on the other hand still predicted a major attack and that it would be blamed on Osama bin laden.
He was also killed months later after the 9/11 event happened.

Sorry but that's too many coincidences.



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: usos90

Also meant to say 6 months before his death, not 3 months.



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: usos90

originally posted by: opethPA
a reply to: usos90

That couldnt be anything at all to do with 911 being the number for emergencies or crisis in North America effective the late 60s or early 70s.

Nah..wouldnt make sense.


True, 9-11 is a phone numeber to police and the ambulance but what about the films that explcitily stated how they would blame the WTC attacks on Muslims to invade their country for oil?

Or the "caution 9 - 11" banner in Terminator 2? Modern day residents state that bypass warning isn't there anymore nor has anyone confirmed if the passage actually measures 9 foot 11 inches.


Or if Caution 9-11 was just a play on 911 being the number for assistance needed.
Or if the overpass is 9 feet 11 inches.
Or if it was some predictive tale of Sept 11.

None of that is conclusive anything and depending on how much or how little tinfoil you wear in life it could mean multiple things.


1. The overpass warning isn't there anymore.

2. Still trying to confirm if the overpass actually measures 9 foot 11 inches. If it doesn't then why did they put that in the movie?

Also all the other evidence is obvious.



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: usos90

Sure, it isn't bad... IF we have a democracy type government. But if it turns to socialism or worse... much worse... Then not just one country is at stake. The whole world suffers at once. No where to run, no where to escape to. Even if it starts out as a good thing, it doesn't mean it will stay that way. It can turn bad with the wrong person at the helm. Even factions within the NWO could turn away and those people slaughtered just to keep everyone under the iron fist.

I really don't see a NWO being good. It 'sounds' good from a democratic perspective but you can bet it wont be, at least it wont stay that way.


Just saying that it makes sense because we're already globalized.

We're already in a global environment with global trade.



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: usos90

originally posted by: Argyll
a reply to: usos90




...and I'm telling you be prepared for a major attack... but it won't be Osama Bin Laden, it will be those behind the New World Order who once again wants to take the guns and freedom away from the American people


Damn!....you Americans lost your guns and freedom once again?

How many times is that now?



I actually think the US constitution needs to be repealed.

For crying out loud it's a 17th century document written by slave owners. The constitution is not relevant for today's cultural mindset or mass society.

The constitution needs to be banned in my opinion.

William Cooper on the other hand still predicted a major attack and that it would be blamed on Osama bin laden.
He was also killed months later after the 9/11 event happened.

Sorry but that's too many coincidences.


William Cooper wasn't killed because he predicted a vague attack ..

You should really do a lot of unbiased research on him before believing he is a conspiracy hero that folks want to make him out to be.



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
Has anybody let the OP know that ATS has an entire forum dedicated solely to 9/11 theories where most, if not all, of the "evidence" here has been posted for like....years?


Yeah but it's closed. Can't post anything on it.

I just wanted to link the most convincing evidence.



posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: usos90

originally posted by: Argyll
a reply to: usos90




...and I'm telling you be prepared for a major attack... but it won't be Osama Bin Laden, it will be those behind the New World Order who once again wants to take the guns and freedom away from the American people


Damn!....you Americans lost your guns and freedom once again?

How many times is that now?



I actually think the US constitution needs to be repealed.

For crying out loud it's a 17th century document written by slave owners. The constitution is not relevant for today's cultural mindset or mass society.

The constitution needs to be banned in my opinion.

William Cooper on the other hand still predicted a major attack and that it would be blamed on Osama bin laden.
He was also killed months later after the 9/11 event happened.

Sorry but that's too many coincidences.


William Cooper wasn't killed because he predicted a vague attack ..

You should really do a lot of unbiased research on him before believing he is a conspiracy hero that folks want to make him out to be.


Yeah he got involved in a fallout with the locals.

He also probably succumbed to tax evasion which is a precursor to acts of sedition.

Government and collection agencies come after him and Cooper goes out in a form of martyrdom.

Happens all the time. Many people who hit rock bottom become a homegrown terrorist
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posted on Sep, 16 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: usos90

originally posted by: Argyll
a reply to: usos90




...and I'm telling you be prepared for a major attack... but it won't be Osama Bin Laden, it will be those behind the New World Order who once again wants to take the guns and freedom away from the American people


Damn!....you Americans lost your guns and freedom once again?

How many times is that now?



I actually think the US constitution needs to be repealed.

For crying out loud it's a 17th century document written by slave owners. The constitution is not relevant for today's cultural mindset or mass society.

The constitution needs to be banned in my opinion.

William Cooper on the other hand still predicted a major attack and that it would be blamed on Osama bin laden.
He was also killed months later after the 9/11 event happened.

Sorry but that's too many coincidences.


William Cooper wasn't killed because he predicted a vague attack ..

You should really do a lot of unbiased research on him before believing he is a conspiracy hero that folks want to make him out to be.


And it' was not a vague prediction, he explicitly stated that a major attack would be blamed on Bin laden.

In his broadcast he repeated it multiples times. That's not vague, that's direct.



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posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 11:22 AM
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CIA has lied about what they noticed and when for years. They even asserted by torturing prisoners at GITMO they stopped terrorist attacks and captured bin Laden. This is all false and demonstrated to be over the years. They're a wonderful film on Amazon Prime about it called the report ( watch it). CIA is a rogue intelligence outfit that acts out under its own authority  and judge and does not care about what other civilian government branches think. Fact they stored information about Al Qeada members entering the United States in 2000 is a cover up. Remember Bin laden and his group was active in Africa and Middle East for years before 9/11.

They bombed the USS cole in Yemen and attacked Embassies in Africa.  So are we truly going to believe the entire intelligence structure of the CIA just broke down and did not recognise the significance of terrorists infiltrating the United States? Are really continuing to maintain these AL Qeada Cells were not observed and watched? The CIA director Tenet claimed under oath by the way nobody saw the memorandum that two high profile Terrorists had infiltrated the country in 2000. This has been established to be another lie as 50 people at CIA Alec Station read it.  I never truly understand how you can lose terrorists when there they proceeded around the United States using the names on their licenses, passports and visas and they were barely keeping a low profile. All the failures were swept under the rug some of the people were even promoted.  The world is very strange.  All the evidence shows the attacks were managed by high ups to achieve a bigger goal  of taking out hostile regimes and make themselves rich in the process. 
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posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 04:03 PM
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This Post, What if Godzilla was Sent from Gibson Island to Destroy the World Trade Center? considers that the WTC may have been pre-wired during construction in order to obtain better insurance rates.

In short, the post theorizes that a building might be cheaper to insure if the demolition risks (an eventuality, either via obsolescence or structural damage) were minimized by wiring the building at construction. A building that suffers structural damage (Earthquake, Tidal Wave, 757, etc.) would be very expensive to demolish because of the risk the building would not fall as planned. (ie. It might fall on other buildings.)


The post also notes that the founder of Marsh Mclennan (Insurance Broker) Victor O. Schinnerer was neighbors with a number of Deep State families on Gibson Island. These include the Mueller Family, Godfrey Rockefeller and His wife Margaret Kuhn, Alexandra McCain and Henry Sturgis Morgan, the du Ponts, among others.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 09:19 PM
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originally posted by: opethPA

William Cooper never predicted 9/11. That is a falsehood that conspiracy types like to go with to fulfill their narratives.
What did he predict then?

1. That there would be a nebulous attack based on avail intel that most BBS/forums/whatever were talking about in the civilian world so you could only imagine what those in the DOD world knew


The "prediction" was based off the CNN interview with Osama. He thought it was a clear psyop and that he would be blamed for the next attack.

Saying his prediction was based off DOD intel is misleading.

It's strange how people try and explain these things away. Why not just dismiss him as a whack job who like a broken clock can sometimes be right?

He did predict 911.
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posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 02:14 PM
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The only one who can truly be considered to have predicted 911 was Cyril Richard "Rick" Rescorla

en.wikipedia.org...

As corporate security director at Morgan Stanley he had to evacuate thousands of Morgan Stanley employees
from WTC complex after the 1993 bombing

It was this experience combined with his earlier experiences as intelligence officer in British and American Army
that Muslim extremists would again attack the WTC complex

Unable to convince corporate executives to relocate from the WTC, he did the next thing which was to drill the
employees in evacuation procedures

Rescorla and his old Army buddy Dan Hill had determined the having failed at destroying the WTC by land AKA truck bomb
would try to attack by air

On 911 Rescorla put his plans into operation and evacuate over 2600 Morgan Stanley employees at WTC

Rescorla and his security staff reentered the building to insure that everyone was out when WTC South Tower collapse killed him

Unlike the poseurs, frauds and nutjobs who came out of the woodwork claiming to have seen 911 coming

Rescorla dying heroic death on 911



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