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Trump denies 'deal' with Democrats on young immigrants, DACA

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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: chadderson

Wrong, DACA is a response to the GOP's complete unwillingness in the past to tackle comprehensive immigration reform. It was a stop gap measure. They didn't want to solve the problems Dreamers faced, they wanted to use them as a tool to divide us.

People can read and know there is more at stake than the GOP blame game. No, dreamers aren't the cause of people's suffering. Greed is and they know it.

Share love not hate. Dems didn't create this problem. But, Dems and the GOP need to work together, finally, to solve it.

Peace.
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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: DancedWithWolves

Cheers.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Wow, Trump caves in with DACA because of the fallout he was receiving. Now you find a way to blame democrats for Trump's flip-flopping. Dude, when are you going to see the writing on the wall and stop blaming democrats and everyone else for Trump's own stupidity and poor decision making. This isn't the first time Trump has flip-flopped on an issue!

All of Trump's Flip-Flops...
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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

They all lie so do not try making it a Republican thing. If any honest politicians still exist, we will likely never hear their names.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: Illumimasontruth
a reply to: Sillyolme

They all lie so do not try making it a Republican thing. If any honest politicians still exist, we will likely never hear their names.

The crux of that is that all humans lie. Since all politicians are human then all politicians lie as a hold over from them being human. So stating that all politicians lie is a tautology and really useless to the conversation. Though it sounds insightful.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

Democrats in Congress can introduce legislation.

What makes you think they can't?

And the Republicans in the Senate are not unified 100%.

There's factions of anti-Trump Senators and general RINOs.




posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: WeRpeons

One of these days you and some others might understand the strategies.




posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
So what are Democrats doing with this ?

Why would they want to jeopardize any good relations with Donald and with Republicans in Congress ?

And why would they want to jeopardize any votes for next year's elections ?

WTF are Nancy and Chuck up to ?

Maybe Nancy and Chuck are getting negative backlash from voters and from the DNC and from big money donors ?


threads like this are the real nothing burger. why do you start so many of them when you're saying so little?
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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: fiverx313

You're so original.

I'm speechless.




posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
empty post


yup... a big bunch of nothing.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:32 PM
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In typical Trump fashion, he threw out some ridiculous promise about an issue he had only the most rudimentary knowledge of, and then after realizing the entire country (well, more than half) was outraged about it, he started asking questions about what exactly DACA was. Then comes the hard left turn.

Maybe the guy should spend less time on Twitter and watching cable news op-ed shows, and spend that time actually learning some of the actual details of the various programs he randomly vows to eliminate.

Who knew DACA was about the best and brightest? Who knew they were serving in our military, or studying in our schools?

Everyone, Donny. Everyone except you.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

The majority party decides which legislation comes to floor for vote.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: xuenchen

The majority party decides which legislation comes to floor for vote.


Correct.

Why didn't you tell me that to begin with?




posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:39 PM
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OMG!You don't have any thing else constructive going on in your life than to sit up here all day and create stupid threads that nobody cares about.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:45 PM
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Trump WANTS to be "adored by the masses" (TYPICAL narcissist)

Soooo....

He tries his hand with the Republicans. That FAILS.

Now he's trying his hand with the Democrats....and trying to NOT piss off his base/supporters.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:59 PM
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originally posted by: chadderson
I voted for Trump and have mixed feelings on the DACA issue. Obviously it was a problem created by the democrats that Republicans have to clean up, and look bad for.



While everyone is distracted though, he will sign a bill on "hate speech" essentially abridging the 1st amendment.

Trump is beginning to draw my ire.
Looks like trump took a dump on the people who put him in office. maybe he has to have a deal any deal. Cant believe his last tweet=Now they are all brilliant educated accomplished "young People. Pelosi must have given him magic mushrooms at their dinner.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey


What is the Dynamic Duo always up to? They're trying to stir the pot of emotional reactions and cause further discord and internal bickering within the Republican party. They're trying to paint them as a fractured party (not that the party needs much external help) because there is a mid-term election coming up and they really hope that what happened in 2010 on the side of Repubs can happen for the Dems this time around.

I'm willing to bet that there was no "deal" struck, but the problem is that, in Washington, a "deal" always has different meaning than in the real world, so who knows what was said.


THIS ^^^

SlapMonkey said it so well that I don't have to... but it bears repeating!!!



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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Democrats can't even introduce legislation, so I don't know why Trump is talking to the democrats.


Yes, they can -- and have.

It would most likely be difficult to get a Democrat bill passed with a Republican-majority legislature, but it can certainly be proposed.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Illumimasontruth
a reply to: Sillyolme

They all lie so do not try making it a Republican thing. If any honest politicians still exist, we will likely never hear their names.

The crux of that is that all humans lie. Since all politicians are human then all politicians lie as a hold over from them being human. So stating that all politicians lie is a tautology and really useless to the conversation. Though it sounds insightful.



Q. How do you know a politician is lying?

A. Their Lips are moving.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 01:53 PM
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en.wikipedia.org...

The Hastert Rule, also known as the "majority of the majority" rule, is an informal governing principle used in the United States by Republican[1][2][3] Speakers of the House of Representatives since the mid-1990s to maintain their speakerships[4] and limit the power of the minority party to bring bills up for a vote on the floor of the House.[5] Under the doctrine, the Speaker will not allow a floor vote on a bill unless a majority of the majority party supports the bill.[6]
The Hastert Rule is an informal rule and the Speaker is not bound by it; he or she may break it at his or her discretion. Speakers have at times broken the Hastert Rule and allowed votes to be scheduled on legislation that lacked majority support within the Speaker's own party. Hastert described the rule as being "kind of a misnomer" in that it "never really existed" as a rule.
Under House rules, the Speaker schedules floor votes on pending legislation. The Hastert Rule says that the Speaker will not schedule a floor vote on any bill that does not have majority support within his or her party — even if the majority of the members of the House would vote to pass it. The rule keeps the minority party from passing bills with the assistance of a minority of majority party members. 218 votes are needed to pass a bill in the House; if the Democrats are the minority and the Republicans are the majority, the Hastert Rule would not allow 200 Democrats and 100 Republicans together to pass a bill, because 100 Republican votes is short of a majority of the majority party, so the Speaker would not allow a vote to take place.[7]

2015–): Paul Ryan promised his caucus that he would apply the Hastert rule to immigration bills proposed during his tenure as Speaker, although conflicting reports have also interpreted his statements as a more blanket application of the rule.[33][34] As of July 2017, Ryan has not violated the majority-of-the-majority rule.
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