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Trump denies 'deal' with Democrats on young immigrants, DACA

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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 07:36 AM
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So Donald has dinner with Nancy and Chuck.

Don, Nancy, and Chuck talk about DACA.

After dinner, Nancy and Chuck apparently make an "announcement" that a deal was reached on "DACA" and "The Wall".

Then Sarah, The White House press Secretary, denies any "deals".

And Donald Tweets that any "deals" are subject to vote (presumably by Congress).

So what are Democrats doing with this ?

Why would they want to jeopardize any good relations with Donald and with Republicans in Congress ?

And why would they want to jeopardize any votes for next year's elections ?

WTF are Nancy and Chuck up to ?

Maybe Nancy and Chuck are getting negative backlash from voters and from the DNC and from big money donors ?


Trump denies 'deal' with Democrats on young immigrants, DACA



President Donald Trump denied Thursday an assertion by Congress' top two Democrats that they reached an agreement with him that would preserve protections for young immigrants in the U.S. illegally while providing border security enhancements, but not the Southern wall he has coveted.

"No deal was made last night on DACA," known as the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, Trump tweeted before daybreak Thursday, contracting a characterization of a private White House dinner Wednesday night by his guests, Sen. Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.

"Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote," Trump said in one of a series of posts to his Twitter account."



References:

@realDonaldTrump

@NancyPelosi

@SenSchumer

Twitter Blows Up After Chuck and Nancy Announce DACA Deal That Won’t Include Border Wall






posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 07:41 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

It's theatre. It's all staged to elicit the most emotional response from the great unwashed.

Machiavelli would look at DC today and say, "Day-um!"



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

How are the democrats jeopardizing any progress?



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 08:37 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: xuenchen

How are the democrats jeopardizing any progress?


Gee I don't know !!

Maybe blabbermouthing ?




posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:19 AM
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Young people under the DACA program need a path to citizenship immediately. Chuck and Nancy need to worry less about announcing potential bipartisan efforts to help these kids and work with Don and Paul and Mitch to get this done. You are correct in that they need to stop racing to the mic until the ink is dry.

I hope they all stand together and sing Kumbaya with multi-part harmonies. These kids and this country need progress. The GOP's bombastic agenda isn't selling anymore. From healthcare to DACA, Americans have learned there are real problems to solve and that there was more to consider than hateful sound bites Republicans have used to create resentment towards one another.

Division isn't helping anyone. Save the dreamers under DACA. It's the right thing to do.

Get it done. Dare to Dream again America.

Thanks for posting.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Half truths or blatant lies tend to ruin trust and bring out bad emotions.

Trump can be a great negotiator so we'll see how this plays out.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
WTF are Nancy and Chuck up to ?


What is the Dynamic Duo always up to? They're trying to stir the pot of emotional reactions and cause further discord and internal bickering within the Republican party. They're trying to paint them as a fractured party (not that the party needs much external help) because there is a mid-term election coming up and they really hope that what happened in 2010 on the side of Repubs can happen for the Dems this time around.

I'm willing to bet that there was no "deal" struck, but the problem is that, in Washington, a "deal" always has different meaning than in the real world, so who knows what was said.

They should have done the meeting in a plane on a runway, just to add to the ambiance.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I'm going to interrupt Xuen's daily liberal hate wank fest to post an article talking about how all of Trump's biggest supporters are hating on Trump for this move.
Trump’s die-hard supporters are fuming after an apparent about-face on ‘dreamers’

Nearing midnight and into Thursday, social media accounts came alive as elected officials and activists on the right dashed off tweets and posts to share their shock.


“The reality is sinking in that Trump administration is on the precipice of turning into an establishment presidency,” Sam Nunberg, a former Trump campaign adviser, said in an interview early Thursday morning.


Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), one of the GOP’s biggest immigration hawks, issued a dramatic warning to the president after he scrolled through news reports.

“If AP is correct, Trump base is blown up, destroyed, irreparable, and disillusioned beyond repair,” King tweeted, referencing an Associated Press story on the bipartisan agreement.

He added, “No promise is credible.”


Conservative radio talk show host Laura Ingraham, who is friendly with Trump, mocked him for seeming to shelve the pledge that has animated his supporters since his campaign’s launch.

“Exactly what @realDonaldTrump campaigned on. Not,” Ingraham wrote on Twitter. She later added, “BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! … or … maybe … not really.”


Conservative polemicist Ann Coulter, who wrote a book titled “In Trump We Trust”, did not buy the president's explanation.

“At this point, who DOESN'T want Trump impeached?” Coulter tweeted on Thursday morning.


Breitbart News, the conservative website now run by former White House chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon, quickly became a gathering place for aggrieved Trump backers. Readers congregated by the thousands in the comments section for an article with a bright red headline: “Amnesty Don.”


Days earlier, Bannon said on CBS’s “60 Minutes” that he was “worried about losing the House now because of this, because of DACA,” arguing that Republican voters would lack enthusiasm for Trump and the party if they felt it was drifting to the center on immigration.

“If this goes all the way down to its logical conclusion, in February and March it will be a civil war inside the Republican Party that will be every bit as vitriolic as 2013,” Bannon said, referencing the stalled fight that year over a comprehensive immigration bill. “And to me, doing that in the springboard of primary season for 2018 is extremely unwise.”


“This a betrayal of the highest order,” a Breitbart editor, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said in a phone call late Wednesday. “Donald Trump should be ashamed of himself. He wasn’t elected to do this.”


The editor was mostly echoed by the site’s readers:

“Put a fork in Trump. He is done.”

“PRIMARY TIME!!!!”

“What a HUGE let down.”

“I can reconcile Trump caving on virtually any issue, Amnesty and not building the wall are not one of them.”


Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, tweeted Thursday that his efforts to work with Democrats on immigration policy were "undercut" by Trump's moves and asked the White House staff to "brief me."

Ok you can return to your regularly scheduled echo chamber back patting session.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: Illumimasontruth

And you think the lies and half truths are coming from Schumer and Pelosi?

No...really...you think they are the ones lying?

Oh my goodness.
Does history teach nothing?
Who's the one who lies constantly? About even trivial things?

Why on earth would someone think Nancy and Chuck lied?



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme




Why on earth would someone think Nancy and Chuck lied?


Because their lips moved.





posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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Seems D-Trump is in favor of working with the Dems on this DACA deal, he is defending it. Nothing agreed yet as they still need to discuss security, but seems almost certain

America wants the best and brightest, and DACA is meant to be aimed at that...be foolish to be opposed if only for principle. No Einstein, you can't come to America, get back in line like the rest. no refugees!



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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I voted for Trump and have mixed feelings on the DACA issue. Obviously it was a problem created by the democrats that Republicans have to clean up, and look bad for.



While everyone is distracted though, he will sign a bill on "hate speech" essentially abridging the 1st amendment.

Trump is beginning to draw my ire.
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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: DancedWithWolves

Is that like trump announcing no transgender people in the military via Twitter then the Pentagon having to scramble to write new policies?

I do agree this is an issue that needs solving. I say give them all the citizenship test and if they pass they get to stay. They will all pass because they grew up here.
Or better if you were brought here under the age of sixteen and have lived here for ten years your are automatically granted citizenship.
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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:41 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Heh. The Pentagon has pretty much given Trump the finger on that issue. They pulled a "yeah we'll get right on it." and have done nothing since.
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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Not applicable.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:48 AM
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How many times has trump claimed a conversation took place that didn't. Or changed the content of a conversation that did. The phone call to the Mexican president comes to mind.
He probably agreed to everything they said but was told after the meeting that he shouldn't have agreed so now he's back tracking.

The jelly fish has no spine.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

The GOP agenda reeks in the light of day. The base has shrunk to an unsustainable number that doesn't represent America. The bluff is over.

Wedges only work to a point. We have reached that point. Game over. The politics of division equals the politics of defeat.

Get this legislation done.

Ignore those who cling to hate and fear as a motivator. Americans are seeing the fine print and want a focus on infrastructure, higher wages, healthcare as a right and to be part of a country that innovates. Blaming each other for the sufferings of all won't get us out of a wet paper bag, let alone get anything done that helps us prosper.

People helping people. It's in our nature. It's time it was in our politics.

Peace



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

I don't see scrambling. I see study committees that will show that banning transgender in our military as proposed policy isn't needed and doesn't help America.

Time will tell.

And yes, we agree that DACA kids need a path to citizenship. Cheers. We agree!

Peace.

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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

True. Still it was a "before the ink has dried" situation created by trump.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: DancedWithWolves
Young people under the DACA program need a path to citizenship immediately. Chuck and Nancy need to worry less about announcing potential bipartisan efforts to help these kids and work with Don and Paul and Mitch to get this done. You are correct in that they need to stop racing to the mic until the ink is dry.

I hope they all stand together and sing Kumbaya with multi-part harmonies. These kids and this country need progress. The GOP's bombastic agenda isn't selling anymore. From healthcare to DACA, Americans have learned there are real problems to solve and that there was more to consider than hateful sound bites Republicans have used to create resentment towards one another.

Division isn't helping anyone. Save the dreamers under DACA. It's the right thing to do.

Get it done. Dare to Dream again America.

Thanks for posting.


Shouldn't the Republicans be getting it done since they run the government. Democrats can't even introduce legislation, so I don't know why Trump is talking to the democrats.



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