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Reason #9234212342134 why you should not vote Republican - Example: Equifax

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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:23 AM
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a reply to: SeekingAlpha

How would have increased regulations prevented this? You are trying to ascribe blame to one political side on a identity hacking breach? Not following that




posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:24 AM
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a reply to: SeekingAlpha




Get educated on this before speaking. Thanks for playing.


BWAAAAA 😂

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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:26 AM
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Keep trying Russian bot. LOL!


originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: SeekingAlpha




Get educated on this before speaking. Thanks for playing.


BWAAAAA 😂

Maybe moby can be my educator as well yours.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:31 AM
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originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
Doesn't matter if it was human error or not. The fact of the matter was that this was a catastrophic breach that was 1. preventable and 2. you will have limited path for recourse if you are the victim of ID theft......something that the GOP has been championing on behalf of the credit agencies for quite some time and now you will most likely have to deal with the aftermath and won't have crap to protect you if your information is used. Thanks for playing.



originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
So many of you know that Equifax's database was breached and over 140 million Americans are now vulnerable of ID theft; chances are that some foreign government did this and they got us all by the short and curlies.

Before I go on my political rant, if you have not checked, you should check to see if your information has been breached by going to equifaxsecurity2017.com. They will tell you if your information was "likely" or "not likely" breached.

Now for my political rant. The right wingers have been hell bent on removing regulations and consumer protections for decades. Now, liberal or right wing, 1/2 of all americans will have to deal with this uncertainty of potential ID theft because of this breach. Freezing your credit is the best way to protect yourself; but you will have to pay a fee to the 4 agencies to freeze and eventually unfreeze your credit for something that could have been 100% prevented by Equifax. Worst of all, if the hackers are smart. They would lay low for quite some time and begin to exploit the information they received. Therefore, you may not actually be a victim for years to come. By that time, it will be damn near impossible to trace the ID theft to Equifax and you are going to be left screwed having to clean up the mess with no help coming from Equifax.

This is just one of 1000's of examples why consumer protect is absolutely necessary. We need recourse for events like this, but there are so many right wingers that have been brainwashed to follow the party line that consumer protectionism is not "pro-business." Whether now or later, this is going to prove itself to be a great example of why we need protections.

Like I said above, this was completely avoidable. If you want to piss yourself off, please read this article.

gizmodo.com...

In all seriousness, I don't see how this is any different from the BP oil spill in the gulf. BP was required to set up a fund of billions of dollars to address issues relating to the spill. Equifax needs to do the same and anyone that suffers ID theft can tap into this fund to be made whole.


Hmmm....not too keen on knowing how consumer protections work for the industry are you?

Read up on PCI compliance then let me know what you think. Government will never be in charge of it, that's exactly why PCI DSS was created.....so government couldn't control it and never will.

I used to do PCI audits so I have a little knowledge in the area. I can also say that in my opinion the breach was like caused by what is called the human factor internally....anyone looking to breach credit data or data in general knows that the easiest way to get it is to work the most likely route to be able to get in....an employee. Think of it similar to leaks in government. It's a LOT easier to count on and use this than it is to externally hack a corporation like Equifax.

Anywho....cant wait to see what you accuse the right of next!


Hmm...wrong on all counts. Equifax themselves even said that they took the language out of their legal documentation that would have blocked anyone affected by this breach to seek recourse.

It's actually stated on the Equifax 2017 link yyou posted, but apparently didn't bother to read either.

I think I'll stick to my personal and actual intimate knowledge of the industry and it's compliance standards versus your politically motivated and uneducated assumptions.

Thanks for playing and enjoy the IGNORANCE!



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:37 AM
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That's what you don't get. Yes, they did that to make it look like their transparent as possible. Just wait until you have to file a claim for their $1 million protection. I bet they will take their chances in court against you rather than have to pay you a dime for being a victim of ID theft. How are you going to prove that your ID theft was caused because of the breach? You can't and you will lose the case if you sued them in court.




originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
Doesn't matter if it was human error or not. The fact of the matter was that this was a catastrophic breach that was 1. preventable and 2. you will have limited path for recourse if you are the victim of ID theft......something that the GOP has been championing on behalf of the credit agencies for quite some time and now you will most likely have to deal with the aftermath and won't have crap to protect you if your information is used. Thanks for playing.



originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
So many of you know that Equifax's database was breached and over 140 million Americans are now vulnerable of ID theft; chances are that some foreign government did this and they got us all by the short and curlies.

Before I go on my political rant, if you have not checked, you should check to see if your information has been breached by going to equifaxsecurity2017.com. They will tell you if your information was "likely" or "not likely" breached.

Now for my political rant. The right wingers have been hell bent on removing regulations and consumer protections for decades. Now, liberal or right wing, 1/2 of all americans will have to deal with this uncertainty of potential ID theft because of this breach. Freezing your credit is the best way to protect yourself; but you will have to pay a fee to the 4 agencies to freeze and eventually unfreeze your credit for something that could have been 100% prevented by Equifax. Worst of all, if the hackers are smart. They would lay low for quite some time and begin to exploit the information they received. Therefore, you may not actually be a victim for years to come. By that time, it will be damn near impossible to trace the ID theft to Equifax and you are going to be left screwed having to clean up the mess with no help coming from Equifax.

This is just one of 1000's of examples why consumer protect is absolutely necessary. We need recourse for events like this, but there are so many right wingers that have been brainwashed to follow the party line that consumer protectionism is not "pro-business." Whether now or later, this is going to prove itself to be a great example of why we need protections.

Like I said above, this was completely avoidable. If you want to piss yourself off, please read this article.

gizmodo.com...

In all seriousness, I don't see how this is any different from the BP oil spill in the gulf. BP was required to set up a fund of billions of dollars to address issues relating to the spill. Equifax needs to do the same and anyone that suffers ID theft can tap into this fund to be made whole.


Hmmm....not too keen on knowing how consumer protections work for the industry are you?

Read up on PCI compliance then let me know what you think. Government will never be in charge of it, that's exactly why PCI DSS was created.....so government couldn't control it and never will.

I used to do PCI audits so I have a little knowledge in the area. I can also say that in my opinion the breach was like caused by what is called the human factor internally....anyone looking to breach credit data or data in general knows that the easiest way to get it is to work the most likely route to be able to get in....an employee. Think of it similar to leaks in government. It's a LOT easier to count on and use this than it is to externally hack a corporation like Equifax.

Anywho....cant wait to see what you accuse the right of next!


Hmm...wrong on all counts. Equifax themselves even said that they took the language out of their legal documentation that would have blocked anyone affected by this breach to seek recourse.

It's actually stated on the Equifax 2017 link yyou posted, but apparently didn't bother to read either.

I think I'll stick to my personal and actual intimate knowledge of the industry and it's compliance standards versus your politically motivated and uneducated assumptions.

Thanks for playing and enjoy the IGNORANCE!




posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:37 AM
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originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
Even if he did, you right wingers would be bitching about how he is overreaching his authority and Emperor Snowflake would have just reversed it now leaving both me and you f'ed.



I am not a right winger but if you want to get your point across to everyone it might work a lot

better if you avoided provocative phrases such as " You Right Wingers."

Hope your thread goes well

edit on 14-9-2017 by SolAquarius because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:37 AM
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originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
Keep trying Russian bot. LOL!


originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: SeekingAlpha




Get educated on this before speaking. Thanks for playing.


BWAAAAA 😂

Maybe moby can be my educator as well yours.




You got me, I'm a bot. Beep bop boop.


Still waiting for you to school me on how it was the republicans fault that the big wigs dumped their stocks right before the leak, but something tells me I'll be waiting a long time, good thing I'm a bot.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:40 AM
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I'll school you by giving you boot straps. Their gain, your loss. Now pick yourself up from your boot straps.


originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
Keep trying Russian bot. LOL!


originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: SeekingAlpha




Get educated on this before speaking. Thanks for playing.


BWAAAAA 😂

Maybe moby can be my educator as well yours.




You got me, I'm a bot. Beep bop boop.


Still waiting for you to school me on how it was the republicans fault that the big wigs dumped their stocks right before the leak, but something tells me I'll be waiting a long time, good thing I'm a bot.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:42 AM
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a reply to: SolAquarius

It's a troll account. You can see it in the thread history.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:45 AM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
Doesn't matter if it was human error or not. The fact of the matter was that this was a catastrophic breach that was 1. preventable and 2. you will have limited path for recourse if you are the victim of ID theft......something that the GOP has been championing on behalf of the credit agencies for quite some time and now you will most likely have to deal with the aftermath and won't have crap to protect you if your information is used. Thanks for playing.



originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
So many of you know that Equifax's database was breached and over 140 million Americans are now vulnerable of ID theft; chances are that some foreign government did this and they got us all by the short and curlies.

Before I go on my political rant, if you have not checked, you should check to see if your information has been breached by going to equifaxsecurity2017.com. They will tell you if your information was "likely" or "not likely" breached.

Now for my political rant. The right wingers have been hell bent on removing regulations and consumer protections for decades. Now, liberal or right wing, 1/2 of all americans will have to deal with this uncertainty of potential ID theft because of this breach. Freezing your credit is the best way to protect yourself; but you will have to pay a fee to the 4 agencies to freeze and eventually unfreeze your credit for something that could have been 100% prevented by Equifax. Worst of all, if the hackers are smart. They would lay low for quite some time and begin to exploit the information they received. Therefore, you may not actually be a victim for years to come. By that time, it will be damn near impossible to trace the ID theft to Equifax and you are going to be left screwed having to clean up the mess with no help coming from Equifax.

This is just one of 1000's of examples why consumer protect is absolutely necessary. We need recourse for events like this, but there are so many right wingers that have been brainwashed to follow the party line that consumer protectionism is not "pro-business." Whether now or later, this is going to prove itself to be a great example of why we need protections.

Like I said above, this was completely avoidable. If you want to piss yourself off, please read this article.

gizmodo.com...

In all seriousness, I don't see how this is any different from the BP oil spill in the gulf. BP was required to set up a fund of billions of dollars to address issues relating to the spill. Equifax needs to do the same and anyone that suffers ID theft can tap into this fund to be made whole.


Hmmm....not too keen on knowing how consumer protections work for the industry are you?

Read up on PCI compliance then let me know what you think. Government will never be in charge of it, that's exactly why PCI DSS was created.....so government couldn't control it and never will.

I used to do PCI audits so I have a little knowledge in the area. I can also say that in my opinion the breach was like caused by what is called the human factor internally....anyone looking to breach credit data or data in general knows that the easiest way to get it is to work the most likely route to be able to get in....an employee. Think of it similar to leaks in government. It's a LOT easier to count on and use this than it is to externally hack a corporation like Equifax.

Anywho....cant wait to see what you accuse the right of next!


Hmm...wrong on all counts. Equifax themselves even said that they took the language out of their legal documentation that would have blocked anyone affected by this breach to seek recourse.

It's actually stated on the Equifax 2017 link yyou posted, but apparently didn't bother to read either.

I think I'll stick to my personal and actual intimate knowledge of the industry and it's compliance standards versus your politically motivated and uneducated assumptions.

Thanks for playing and enjoy the IGNORANCE!



Thanks for the actual facts.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:45 AM
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originally posted by: thesaneone



You got me, I'm a bot. Beep bop boop.




Hey me too.

You know I found this one server you gotta check out the data there is absolutely delicious.

You should try it. It will completely rearrange your 1 and 0's
edit on 14-9-2017 by SolAquarius because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:46 AM
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originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
That's what you don't get. Yes, they did that to make it look like their transparent as possible. Just wait until you have to file a claim for their $1 million protection. I bet they will take their chances in court against you rather than have to pay you a dime for being a victim of ID theft. How are you going to prove that your ID theft was caused because of the breach? You can't and you will lose the case if you sued them in court.




originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
Doesn't matter if it was human error or not. The fact of the matter was that this was a catastrophic breach that was 1. preventable and 2. you will have limited path for recourse if you are the victim of ID theft......something that the GOP has been championing on behalf of the credit agencies for quite some time and now you will most likely have to deal with the aftermath and won't have crap to protect you if your information is used. Thanks for playing.



originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
So many of you know that Equifax's database was breached and over 140 million Americans are now vulnerable of ID theft; chances are that some foreign government did this and they got us all by the short and curlies.

Before I go on my political rant, if you have not checked, you should check to see if your information has been breached by going to equifaxsecurity2017.com. They will tell you if your information was "likely" or "not likely" breached.

Now for my political rant. The right wingers have been hell bent on removing regulations and consumer protections for decades. Now, liberal or right wing, 1/2 of all americans will have to deal with this uncertainty of potential ID theft because of this breach. Freezing your credit is the best way to protect yourself; but you will have to pay a fee to the 4 agencies to freeze and eventually unfreeze your credit for something that could have been 100% prevented by Equifax. Worst of all, if the hackers are smart. They would lay low for quite some time and begin to exploit the information they received. Therefore, you may not actually be a victim for years to come. By that time, it will be damn near impossible to trace the ID theft to Equifax and you are going to be left screwed having to clean up the mess with no help coming from Equifax.

This is just one of 1000's of examples why consumer protect is absolutely necessary. We need recourse for events like this, but there are so many right wingers that have been brainwashed to follow the party line that consumer protectionism is not "pro-business." Whether now or later, this is going to prove itself to be a great example of why we need protections.

Like I said above, this was completely avoidable. If you want to piss yourself off, please read this article.

gizmodo.com...

In all seriousness, I don't see how this is any different from the BP oil spill in the gulf. BP was required to set up a fund of billions of dollars to address issues relating to the spill. Equifax needs to do the same and anyone that suffers ID theft can tap into this fund to be made whole.


Hmmm....not too keen on knowing how consumer protections work for the industry are you?

Read up on PCI compliance then let me know what you think. Government will never be in charge of it, that's exactly why PCI DSS was created.....so government couldn't control it and never will.

I used to do PCI audits so I have a little knowledge in the area. I can also say that in my opinion the breach was like caused by what is called the human factor internally....anyone looking to breach credit data or data in general knows that the easiest way to get it is to work the most likely route to be able to get in....an employee. Think of it similar to leaks in government. It's a LOT easier to count on and use this than it is to externally hack a corporation like Equifax.

Anywho....cant wait to see what you accuse the right of next!


Hmm...wrong on all counts. Equifax themselves even said that they took the language out of their legal documentation that would have blocked anyone affected by this breach to seek recourse.

It's actually stated on the Equifax 2017 link yyou posted, but apparently didn't bother to read either.

I think I'll stick to my personal and actual intimate knowledge of the industry and it's compliance standards versus your politically motivated and uneducated assumptions.

Thanks for playing and enjoy the IGNORANCE!



Pretty much what I figured you'd say. You're guessing...didn't expect anything more really.

Just wondering, but did you check if you were breached? Were you, or is this just a "stick up for those that were" kinda thing?

Oh....and you are still wrong by the way.

Again....reading is your friend....so is PCI DSS....

Tired of arguing with someone that has superficial knowledge on the subject at best.

A favorite quote I will leave you with:


Superficial knowledge, knowledge without principles, is almost always useless and sometimes harmful knowledge.

Luc de Clapiers



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:48 AM
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Not a troll account. But an account created to laugh at right wingers who are too stupid to understand their stupidity.


originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: SolAquarius

It's a troll account. You can see it in the thread history.




posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:48 AM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: SolAquarius

It's a troll account. You can see it in the thread history.




Oh ok..........thanks for the heads up.

I mean some of what he seemed to be talking about seemed interesting but I couldn't stand the obvious partisan hit job.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:50 AM
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I was breached. I've had about 20 friends check as well and all of us were breached. As a matter of fact, I have yet to discuss this with anyone who hasn't been breached.


originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
That's what you don't get. Yes, they did that to make it look like their transparent as possible. Just wait until you have to file a claim for their $1 million protection. I bet they will take their chances in court against you rather than have to pay you a dime for being a victim of ID theft. How are you going to prove that your ID theft was caused because of the breach? You can't and you will lose the case if you sued them in court.




originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
Doesn't matter if it was human error or not. The fact of the matter was that this was a catastrophic breach that was 1. preventable and 2. you will have limited path for recourse if you are the victim of ID theft......something that the GOP has been championing on behalf of the credit agencies for quite some time and now you will most likely have to deal with the aftermath and won't have crap to protect you if your information is used. Thanks for playing.



originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
So many of you know that Equifax's database was breached and over 140 million Americans are now vulnerable of ID theft; chances are that some foreign government did this and they got us all by the short and curlies.

Before I go on my political rant, if you have not checked, you should check to see if your information has been breached by going to equifaxsecurity2017.com. They will tell you if your information was "likely" or "not likely" breached.

Now for my political rant. The right wingers have been hell bent on removing regulations and consumer protections for decades. Now, liberal or right wing, 1/2 of all americans will have to deal with this uncertainty of potential ID theft because of this breach. Freezing your credit is the best way to protect yourself; but you will have to pay a fee to the 4 agencies to freeze and eventually unfreeze your credit for something that could have been 100% prevented by Equifax. Worst of all, if the hackers are smart. They would lay low for quite some time and begin to exploit the information they received. Therefore, you may not actually be a victim for years to come. By that time, it will be damn near impossible to trace the ID theft to Equifax and you are going to be left screwed having to clean up the mess with no help coming from Equifax.

This is just one of 1000's of examples why consumer protect is absolutely necessary. We need recourse for events like this, but there are so many right wingers that have been brainwashed to follow the party line that consumer protectionism is not "pro-business." Whether now or later, this is going to prove itself to be a great example of why we need protections.

Like I said above, this was completely avoidable. If you want to piss yourself off, please read this article.

gizmodo.com...

In all seriousness, I don't see how this is any different from the BP oil spill in the gulf. BP was required to set up a fund of billions of dollars to address issues relating to the spill. Equifax needs to do the same and anyone that suffers ID theft can tap into this fund to be made whole.


Hmmm....not too keen on knowing how consumer protections work for the industry are you?

Read up on PCI compliance then let me know what you think. Government will never be in charge of it, that's exactly why PCI DSS was created.....so government couldn't control it and never will.

I used to do PCI audits so I have a little knowledge in the area. I can also say that in my opinion the breach was like caused by what is called the human factor internally....anyone looking to breach credit data or data in general knows that the easiest way to get it is to work the most likely route to be able to get in....an employee. Think of it similar to leaks in government. It's a LOT easier to count on and use this than it is to externally hack a corporation like Equifax.

Anywho....cant wait to see what you accuse the right of next!


Hmm...wrong on all counts. Equifax themselves even said that they took the language out of their legal documentation that would have blocked anyone affected by this breach to seek recourse.

It's actually stated on the Equifax 2017 link yyou posted, but apparently didn't bother to read either.

I think I'll stick to my personal and actual intimate knowledge of the industry and it's compliance standards versus your politically motivated and uneducated assumptions.

Thanks for playing and enjoy the IGNORANCE!



Pretty much what I figured you'd say. You're guessing...didn't expect anything more really.

Just wondering, but did you check if you were breached? Were you, or is this just a "stick up for those that were" kinda thing?

Oh....and you are still wrong by the way.

Again....reading is your friend....so is PCI DSS....

Tired of arguing with someone that has superficial knowledge on the subject at best.

A favorite quote I will leave you with:


Superficial knowledge, knowledge without principles, is almost always useless and sometimes harmful knowledge.

Luc de Clapiers



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: SeekingAlpha




Not a troll account. But an account created to laugh at right wingers who are too stupid to understand their stupidity.


So.....a troll account. Glad you can admit it.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:53 AM
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More like an account for common sense.


originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: SeekingAlpha




Not a troll account. But an account created to laugh at right wingers who are too stupid to understand their stupidity.


So.....a troll account. Glad you can admit it.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:54 AM
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originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
Not a troll account. But an account created to laugh at right wingers who are too stupid to understand their stupidity.


originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: SolAquarius

It's a troll account. You can see it in the thread history.



Or for us to laugh at the ignorance of the OP and not understanding the proper use of the word highlighted? Again pointing to ignorance and lack of education?


originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
That's what you don't get. Yes, they did that to make it look like their transparent as possible. Just wait until you have to file a claim for their $1 million protection. I bet they will take their chances in court against you rather than have to pay you a dime for being a victim of ID theft. How are you going to prove that your ID theft was caused because of the breach? You can't and you will lose the case if you sued them in court.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:57 AM
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originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
More like an account for common sense.




If you are the standard for common sense then I think I am better off sticking with my uncommon sense.
edit on 14-9-2017 by SolAquarius because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 12:58 AM
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a reply to: SeekingAlpha

Vote what? Oh, Cali. I see...




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