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Yes the KKK was Always a Leftwing Organization started by Democrats

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posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:35 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
Read the other responses. You have to connect sentences together to get the meaning. You cant just cut out one sentence and take it out of context. Attach the sentence following the one you quoted to it and then comment again...


Who started it and who owns it now is not really relevant for the most part, it's who those people were that felt it was necessary to have a Klan and why they still persist. Someone would have gotten the stick when it was formed and now someone else is holding it because of ideological affiliation. It's political affiliation by convenience which the Original Poster, in his fevered diatribes, fails to recognize.




posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: SolAquarius
"Most people don't know this but genghis khan was a democrat along with caligula.

The black plague was not started by fleas on rats but in actuality democrats.

It was democrats that put Jesus on the Cross."




Two of those are true.

(I won't tell you which ones though)



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

Thank you.

I just stole that gif. I love Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman.
I even made my own custom WW character for Dungeon Siege.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:37 PM
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originally posted by: SolAquarius
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You know there are more viewpoints then left and right black and white don't you?
...


You should tell that to AM, because he seems to think that conservatives are only republicans.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:41 PM
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The problem here is ... aside from the obvious ... is that several posters just can't resist going WAAAAY beyond a simple statement like "the men who started the KKK were Democrats."

Yeah, they were members of the Democratic party. True.

That's not the message that these folks want to portray, however.

The Democratic Party is the party of racism. The Democratic Party is terroristic. The Democratic Party oppresses Blacks and other Americans. The Democratic Party is totalitarian. Blahdablahdablah.

None of which are true.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
You should tell that to AM, because he seems to think that conservatives are only republicans.


You're gonna have a hard time finding that quote.

What I said is every Klansmen is a conservative. Do you disagree? Which party's political ideology do they currently align with? Can you answer that?









edit on 12-9-2017 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer but at least he is not a religious nutter



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:42 PM
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All People named Smith are responsible for Murder.

In the past people named Smith have committed murder therefore all people named Smith today are responsible for murder.

I feel like this is essentially the same argument that is being used to link present day Democrats to the KKK just because in the past a group who were also called the democrats were tied to the KKK.

Hey guess what names may stay the same but ideologies change over time.
edit on 12-9-2017 by SolAquarius because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: SolAquarius
All People named Smith are responsible for Murder.

In the past people named Smith have committed murder therefore all people named Smith today are responsible for murder.

I feel like this essentially the same argument that is being used to link present day Democrats to the KKK just because in the past a group who were also called the democrats were tied to the KKK.

Hey guess what names may stay the same but ideologies change over time.


Ding ding ding.

It is far more relevant to the founding of the KKK to classify the founders as White, Male and Southern ... but those don't fit the narrative.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: SolAquarius

I think it's perfectly appropriate to link the Democratic party to the KKK.

However, I think it's total bunk to link leftists to the KKK.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
It is far more relevant to the founding of the KKK to classify the founders as White, Male and Southern ... but those don't fit the narrative.


Pretty much what I tried to get the Original Poster to see in the second reply to his thread but he obviously saw where I was going with that and failed to fully address the matter. He has his agenda and he's sticking to it. Labels are more important than facts.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: DanteGaland

Didn't you get the MEMO???

Anyone unsavory (KKK, Nazis, Antifa) is suddenly and automatically LEFTIST.


So Antifa isn't leftist?... BTW NAZIS, as in the original were/are National socialists... Only the left these days want to claim that this branch of socialism is from the right...


As for the KKK... The premise is that democrats were the ones who started the kkk. People like you want to claim that the KKK are republican, but that's not true. i guess according to the argument of many in here, if some crazy murderer votes democrat, and if suddenly all crazy murderers voted democrat then it means all democrats must be crazy murderers...


originally posted by: DanteGaland
EVERYONE is "bad" ... except Republicans, conservatives and the alt-right.


Could you point out where I wrote this BS claim you are implying I wrote here?... I know there are bad people who are republicans... But the KKK are not republican... You know why they are not?... The Republican party was founded as the opposition from the belief of democrats that black people, native Americans etc were lesser than whites... But people in the left like yourself don't understand that "being racist" is not the same as being against illegal immigration... Or that "according to the belief from many here mostly the left, that it is "racist" to want to properly vet people who come from regions that are extremists...


edit on 12-9-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: SolAquarius

I don't know of you have seen the argument that goes hand-in-hand with this stupidity, but the theory is that there is no difference in the Democrats of 1870 and today, because Democrats today keep Black Americans "on the plantation" because they support the social safety net, affirmative action, etc.

You know, those Communist/Fascist/Nazi ideas (because they all mean the same thing to, you may be shocked to discover.)

What they can't explain is why Black Americans continue to vote well over 85% for Democrats who are oppressing them.

I keep asking how people who are just as smart, just as well-educated and just as politically astute would do that.

I don't get answers.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: SolAquarius

I think it's perfectly appropriate to link the Democratic party to the KKK.

However, I think it's total bunk to link leftists to the KKK.


Correct. There is no denying that Democrats were behind the forming of the KKK.

There is also no denying that there was a huge shift in political affiliations during and after the Civil Rights era, and continued with the Southern Strategy.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Can you start by explaining to me what conservatism and liberalism is to you?

Everyone seems to have their own definition of it.

So if we can define our terms maybe we can have some sort of ground to stand on to debate things if in fact we are debating anything at all here.

I see myself as neither conservative or liberal because the terms are so poorly defined and maligned that their meaning is essentially meaningless to me.

I like to see myself as best as I can as an independent free thinker it's not easy but I try the best I can.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:51 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

The problem here is that "several posters" cant accept the FACT that democrats started the kkk, a hateful bigoted group, in the past, and in the present the democrats started the blm and antifa, hateful bigoted groups. This is a 100+ year trend. Instead, they try every way possible to obfuscate and deny and blame republicans for not fixing a problem they had nearly 100 years to fix. The kkk was democrat from the day it started to somewhere around the 1950's or 1960's. But its in the republican house now so its all our fault and we are responsible and we have to do something about it.

I am sick of this crap. Democrats - clean up your own mess. Just because it moved down the road does NOT mean you are not responsible for it. Not only did you start it in the past, you are absolute in starting it again! When will it be enough? How many hateful racist bigoted groups do you have to inflict on this nation? When will it end?



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Gryphon66
It is far more relevant to the founding of the KKK to classify the founders as White, Male and Southern ... but those don't fit the narrative.


Pretty much what I tried to get the Original Poster to see in the second reply to his thread but he obviously saw where I was going with that and failed to fully address the matter. He has his agenda and he's sticking to it. Labels are more important than facts.


Personally, except for the stupidity of where many take the "Democrats founded the KKK" argument ... I have no issue with it. In fact, I think it's important to understand where we all get our political ideas from ... that there has ALWAYS been a fundamental question at the heart of the US about the strength of the national government as opposed to the States. There has ALWAYS been debate on who should have what freedoms as full citizens.

It's IMPORTANT for us to understand these matters ... but it's asinine to say "and the Democrats still have Blacks down on the plantation" particularly when it is more than obvious that the current iterations of KKK etc. are Trump supporters and Republicans FOR THE SAME REASONS.

We only accept the history we like, I imagine.
edit on 12-9-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Gryphon66

The problem here is that "several posters" cant accept the FACT that democrats started the kkk, a hateful bigoted group, in the past, and in the present the democrats started the blm and antifa, hateful bigoted groups. This is a 100+ year trend. Instead, they try every way possible to obfuscate and deny and blame republicans for not fixing a problem they had nearly 100 years to fix. The kkk was democrat from the day it started to somewhere around the 1950's or 1960's. But its in the republican house now so its all our fault and we are responsible and we have to do something about it.

I am sick of this crap. Democrats - clean up your own mess. Just because it moved down the road does NOT mean you are not responsible for it. Not only did you start it in the past, you are absolute in starting it again! When will it be enough? How many hateful racist bigoted groups do you have to inflict on this nation? When will it end?


Right, you're not interested in historical accuracy, you want to damn the Dems at any cost.

Bravo for admitting the real motivation here.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66


The issue in this case is that the labels of party affiliation are only relevant if you feel like slagging the other side. The core constituency of the Klan is still the same today as it was then.

The question the Original Poster should be asking is, if the Klan did not exist in the past and was founded today, what party would they align themselves with?

Now, that itself is not a knock on the Republican Party just as it shouldn't be a knock on the Democratic Party because Antifa is far left. Someone is going to get the blame for morons trying to latch onto your group but it takes someone with critical thinking skills to recognize this and attribute formulation to its proper genesis.




edit on 12-9-2017 by AugustusMasonicus because: I ♥ cheese pizza.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

What they can't explain is why Black Americans continue to vote well over 85% for Democrats who are oppressing them.

I keep asking how people who are just as smart, just as well-educated and just as politically astute would do that.

I don't get answers.


And I keep telling you that I think 95% of voters -- no matter their skin color -- cast votes for two parties that oppress, exploit, and lie to them.....over & over.

You have gotten that answer from me multiple times.

You are the only one looking for an answer as to why it is that black voters are somehow uniquely vulnerable to rhetoric, lies, political dirty tricks, etc. I don't find that to be a legitimate line of discussion and it sure isn't a point I care to defend. It's abhorrent.



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

You're gonna have a hard time finding that quote.

What I said is every Klansmen is a conservative. Do you disagree? Which party's political ideology do they currently align with? Can you answer that?


LOL, keep trying to play semantics son...

Let's see, which party's political ideology do gangbangers normally align with?... I guess the democrat party must be violent gangbangers right?... That's the type of argument you are trying to make...








edit on 12-9-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



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