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No, the KKK has never ever been a leftist organization. Stop this lie.

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posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 03:19 AM
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a reply to: Oldtimer2


Another liberal in denial,change history to conform to your version?,what proof have you,other then an opinion


If you actually read the OP you'd see rather clearly this isn't merely my opinion. Fact, the KKK was founded by Christian Confederate Conservatives. It's all laid out in the OP. There's nothing 'leftist' or progressive about the KKK. Do they support socialist programs? Are they pro-gay marriage? Do tell. This is a forum. Sharing is caring.




posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 03:20 AM
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originally posted by: Oldtimer2
Another liberal in denial,change history to conform to your version?,what proof have you,other then an opinion you formed,liberals need to take responsibility for once,why your so easily swayed


The only one denying history here is you. Drop the partisan can't and tell us why YOU'RE so easily swayed.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 03:34 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

And don't forget, they were staunchly anti-communism and anti-social equality. Here's one of the posters they would post up in black neighborhoods in Alabama.


For those who can't or see the picture, its says:

Negroes Beware:
Do Not Attend Communist Meetings
Paid Organizers for the communists are only trying to get negroes in trouble. Alabama is a good place for good negroes to live in, but it is a bad place for negroes who believe in SOCIAL EQUALITY.

The Ku Klux Klan Is Watching You.
Take Heed
Tell the Communist leaders to leave. Report all communist meetings to the Ku Klux Klan
Post Office Box 651, Birmingham, Alabama

Both of my great great uncles who were killed by Klansmen were killed in Alabama, though further south that Birmingham. Now let's see how they squirm their way out of this one.
edit on 10-9-2017 by enlightenedservant because: thought i'd linked a clickable thumbnail & not the picture itself. oh well, this is good too



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 03:43 AM
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a reply to: Blaine91555


The KKK or the Neo-Nazi's are not part of either Party. They may align with views from one or the other, but they are radicals who should never be lumped in with anyone but themselves.


Then you should probably have a talk to the many conservative members on here trodding around this idea they're Democrat and therefore leftist.

It's a fact though the KKK has origins from conservative ideology. You can argue that not all conservatives are KKK, this is very true. But that doesn't change the individuals who formed the KKK in the first place and what they believed, whom they associated with.


If you feel the need to stereotype me, put me in the Independent Moderate category.


I'll respect if you don't wish to answer this Blaine but just out of curiousity, what 'liberal' policies do you exactly support? I've been a follower of many of your posts, never got the inkling you leaned both ways. I do admit though it's been a while since I saw you last post.


What do you suppose the end game is here? Democrats try and stereotype Republicans and Republicans try to stereotype Democrats like it's a sporting event. Corrupt politicians from both sides encourage it. The last election was a hate fest put on by both sides, who hold equal blame.


I don't know what the end game is here. I do know is that on ATS there's a large disproportionate rate of attacks happening against Liberalism and the Democratic party. A common thing I see on here... conservatives mess up - it's both sides to blame. Liberals mess up, all hell breaks loose and this entire forum is flooded with anti-liberal sentiment. Partly the reason why I created this thread, to expose the nonsense out there trodded again people like myself whom lean liberal. Sick of it to be frank. If we're going to play that game, I'll play that game (with facts and sources of course).



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 03:45 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Anti-communism... another one to add to the list.

How on Earth did anybody think to try and argue they were leftist?? Are people that simple minded to just see the word Democrat and 19th-mid 20th century and automatically think left?

There's a serious problem with fact and history out there.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 03:53 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian



A common thing I see on here... conservatives mess up - it's both sides to blame. Liberals mess up, all hell breaks loose and this entire forum is flooded with anti-liberal sentiment.

Yep. When Muslims, immigrants, BLM, or anyone else on the Left screws up, I don't see the conservatives here say "Now let's not be hasty. Some of our members do that stuff too, you know. After all, both sides are often to blame".



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 04:09 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

The ones who genuinely believe the KKK and those groups were left wing are only looking at the word "Democrats". They clearly have never actually looked into those groups or the policies they promoted. And in all fairness to them, it's not like our school systems teach this stuff in basic classes.

However, the ones who actually know the history of the confederacy, the kkk, Jim Crow laws, the anti-race mixing "miscegenation" laws, & slave ownership are simply being deceptive. Growing up in the South, I know for a fact that far more people here know about this stuff than what they pretend to know. Remember, interracial marriage was literally outlawed in State constitutions throughout the South until the 1967 Supreme Court case "Loving v Virginia" overturned them. Some of the posters here were old enough to be voters around that time period, yet we're supposed to believe they don't know anything about that?

It's really no different than organized crime: In public, people pretend to be against it & pretend to support "tough on crime" laws. But in reality, they have no problem soliciting prostitutes from organized crime rings; buying drugs that directly fund organized crime rings; illegally gambling w/organized crime rings; hiring illegal labor that was trafficked by organized crime rings; and purchasing contraband from organized crime rings. And that doesn't even include the citizens who are actually affiliated with organized crime rings or pay protection money to them.

That's why I don't have sympathy on this issue. I can accept it if people genuinely don't know. But I know for a fact that many of these people really know what's going on, yet they have the audacity to lie about it like this. Like I said in a previous thread, they claim all of the "honor/glory/accomplishments" as their heritage, but want all of the flaws to be blamed on the Left.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 04:15 AM
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I have no clue as to why they are still trying. Again, the fact remains that current KKK, Neo Nazis..etc vote republican.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 05:07 AM
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All I have to say is Robert Byrd, and there's a video of Hillary calling him her "Mentor". That pretty much sums it up in a nutshell. (look it up yourself, this doesn't even warrant the work)
edit on 10-9-2017 by IlluminatiTechnician because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 05:08 AM
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And here's a highly detailed link that shows who their leadership endorsed and why in the 2016 presidential election. It's in their own words, at that. (HERE's the linky link)

In response to this, a few of them usually dodge the issue by pointing out that David Duke also endorsed Democrat Keith Ellison for the head of the DNC this year. But they always ignore that Duke also ran as a Republican in Louisiana during the 2016 elections.

I have to note, many conservatives here openly rejected Duke in a previous thread about his endorsement of Ellison. I sincerely applaud that. But I have to mention him anyway because people always bring him up as if his endorsement of Ellison nullifies the long & detailed list of other kkk & neo-Nazi endorsements for Trump in 2016.

crap, i really have other things to do. but as you can probably tell, this is a subject that i've followed quite extensively.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 05:12 AM
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a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

I counter your Robert Byrd with former Democratic Senator Strom Thurmond. He even held the longest filibuster by a single Senator in Senate history at the time in order to block the 1957 Civil Rights Act. He switched over to the Republican Party around 1964 because of the Civil Rights Movement and stayed a Republican until his death in 2003 (yes, he kept getting elected as a Republican for almost 40 years after switching parties).



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 05:15 AM
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originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
All I have to say is Robert Byrd, and there's a video of Hillary calling him her "Mentor". That pretty much sums it up in a nutshell. (look it up yourself, this doesn't even warrant the work)


sums what up?
the fact you can't take in information or don't want too?



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 05:48 AM
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a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

That you think that one man proves anything about millions tells us "all we need to know" about the faulty reasoning behind this post

(Also, you're utterly wrong about Byrd.)

It's the style of smug ignorance evidenced in your post that keeps some of us posting actual evidence to counter such nonsense.
edit on 10-9-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 07:40 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: xuenchen

Yes. But I said democrats of the 1870s.



I didn't.



Yea, but that's where we differ: you like to go all over the map and talk about irrelevant things in an effort to be right.

I don't.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 08:23 AM
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originally posted by: bananashooter
Democrats = Nazis / Nazis = KKK
Therefore democrats are still KKK


Yep, and the KGB started the black socialist movement in the late 40's early 50's which in turn produced the likes of the Black Panthers and Malcom X in Ideology. The Dems created and fostered Black Lives Matter and Antifa either directly or indirectly with full funding.....

I mean, who gives a rats who started who? The problem is the base ideology behind these movements when they were created. Hence the Klan were dems.....hence the left ideology of the time created it.

Democrats.....a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for the rich people by telling the poor people that other rich people are the reason they're poor.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 08:25 AM
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Some of these folks can't even agree on what "left" and "right" might mean.

For them, "left" means anything and everything they don't like. They can't even tell you what it stands for. They think "the Dems" are left, but they can't say why.

They've been provided with a short, easily-remembered script of terms to use ... "SJWs, identity politics, virtue signaling" and an argument based not on facts, because you know, you can't trust "facts" but upon inversion.

Right-wingers carry Nazi flags down the street chanting Nazi slogans? Nah, it's the poor folks whose town has been invaded who are the "Nazis."

Here's their tactics if you haven't noticed: Ignore the facts, Avoid specifics, Deny the facts, Accuse your opponent of doing what you're doing.

Gee, I guess they've read Alinsky after all.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Actually now n days its like pro wrestling....each side is the perceived enemy, yet when the cameras are off and the media looks the other way, they are best buds and rub each others butts with a catchers mitt.

Now n days, its all the same party putting on a show to confuse, placate, and dominate Americas beliefs.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 08:32 AM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Southern Guardian

The ones who genuinely believe the KKK and those groups were left wing are only looking at the word "Democrats". They clearly have never actually looked into those groups or the policies they promoted. And in all fairness to them, it's not like our school systems teach this stuff in basic classes.


Question.....does any of this sh*t truly matter now? Seems like it only exists and manifests now n days because people are still butt hurt over it. If we stopped talking about it and holding other cultures on a pedestal to make them feel like they belong....it would go away within a generation.

Then we'd just have people.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 08:33 AM
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I'll be glad to agree with anyone that all politicians are psychopathic liars and core authoritarians.

It really is simple: do you want to have power over others, or do you want to live and let live?

However, to mischaracterize history ... to deploy the kind of inversion, denial and dishonesty we've seen here on an absurd scale... is just as psychotic as any politician's can't.
edit on 10-9-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Spelling



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 08:39 AM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Blaine91555


Some Liberals are racist. Some Conservatives are racist.


I'm going to put this out there.

Most racists tend to be conservative leaning.

Both the KKK and the Neo-Nazi's lean to the rightwing of conservative ideology. This is a fact.

Let's not play fencesitter here. It's fairly clear. As for whether there's any debate that there are some liberals out there that are racist. There's no debate, but this isn't the point of the OP Blaine.


Most liberals are very unlikable, pompous, arrogant and smug. Most conservatives are funny, witty, trustworthy, and kind.
Now, I'd never try to convince you that your thinking is skewed, and your point is more of a joke than a point, but here it is. And it's a fact from my point of view.

I am conservative, and very anti-racist. I nor anyone I know likes the KKK. (even when it was a democratic invention) And if you also don't like the KKK and don''t identify with them, super, we both aren't into that kind of hate. I also don't like ANTIFA, BLM, Black Panthers, White Supremacists, or any other group that uses race to justify segregation and elitism. You however, may like some of those groups, which is something that you would need to justify with yourself.

How you vote doesn't determine weather you are a good person or not, how you treat others does.



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