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No, the KKK has never ever been a leftist organization. Stop this lie.

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posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: ImmortalLegend527
a reply to: Southern Guardian

You can call them Democrats, you can call them Republicans but the reality is that they are the 'PURE' Cowards of life, not just any ordinary coward..pure cowards, cowards who bleed pure cowards blood.That's why they form their little gangs because that's what cowards do.The cowards form their little gangs, they put their little hoods on, grab their little shields, run over people with cars and spread their little hate of Satan.

It's just one name you give deplorable humans like that 'COWARDS'


Especially when they are paid to:

deplorablekel.files.wordpress.com...




posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 05:54 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Rightwintards are two faces. The pretenders.
edit on 10-9-2017 by mekhanics because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

I counter your Robert Byrd with former Democratic Senator Strom Thurmond. He even held the longest filibuster by a single Senator in Senate history at the time in order to block the 1957 Civil Rights Act. He switched over to the Republican Party around 1964 because of the Civil Rights Movement and stayed a Republican until his death in 2003 (yes, he kept getting elected as a Republican for almost 40 years after switching parties).


He had a black daughter named Essie Mae Washington-Williams, I'm pretty sure that had something to do with going over to a party that is 'not' historically known for owning slaves (yes some Republican's did own slaves, but they were predominately a Democrat claim). I am sure the black woman that he had sex with had some talks with him.
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posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: growler

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
All I have to say is Robert Byrd, and there's a video of Hillary calling him her "Mentor". That pretty much sums it up in a nutshell. (look it up yourself, this doesn't even warrant the work)


sums what up?
the fact you can't take in information or don't want too?


Take in what information? You didn't offer any.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

That you think that one man proves anything about millions tells us "all we need to know" about the faulty reasoning behind this post

(Also, you're utterly wrong about Byrd.)

It's the style of smug ignorance evidenced in your post that keeps some of us posting actual evidence to counter such nonsense.



I didn't say it..HISTORY did, and I am NOT wrong about Byrd. I said in my first post, that a response wasn't warranted, but if you want I can dig up all the proof you need. It's all over the web and YouTube. If you knew anything about politics at all, you would already know this as fact. Even Democrats can't refute it. He was one of their own and proud of him. What you need to do, is read a history book (or even remotely read something online) and then think twice before coming in swinging at someone who can copy text right from a history book.

*BTW, it looks like you have made a claim, in regards to my smug disposition.


It's the style of smug ignorance evidenced in your post that keeps some of us posting actual evidence to counter such nonsense.


I would like you to back that claim up if you would. As of yet, you have provided nothing but more work for me. I had to back up my claim with real historical context....to counter your nonsense. It's your turn now, oh humble one.


History of the U.S. Democratic Party



"The Democratic party was a proponent for slave-owners across the country...The party advocated westward expansion, Manifest Destiny, greater equality among all white men, and opposition to the national banks. In 1860 the Civil War began between the mostly-Republican North against the mostly-Democratic, slave-holding South...The Republicans argued that slaveholders, all of them Democrats, had seized control of the federal government and were blocking the progress of liberty...In 1860 the Democrats were unable to stop the election of Republican Abraham Lincoln, even as they feared his election would lead to civil war."
edit on 10-9-2017 by IlluminatiTechnician because: he had to school ignorance.




posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 06:48 PM
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The common thread throughout the post was that all these democrats who were kkk and the like were never really leftist or "true" democrats.

The truth of the matter is these people were democrats - period. When they were democrats and were pro kkk it didn't seem like it got much attention. But when they switched to republican all of a sudden it was a big deal.

I like how democrats do all the things they complain about other people doing, then deny that they are really democrats while doing it. Zebras don't change their stripes.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

How is the right playing them off? The majority of the KKK were Democrats. Heck, even Hillary cozied up to that one grand wizard or whatever he was. If anyone is playing them off, it's the leftists.






posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 07:52 PM
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I lost 25 IQ points readind this thread

Apparently you are all very MKd and divided arguing over weather the KKK is left or right

Who cares..

Weather they are left or right does not have anything to do with what everyone else on the left or right thinks

They are an outlier in either regard

You are getting sleeeepy, verryyyyy sleeepppyyyy "snaps fingers"



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: Vroomfondel




The truth of the matter is these people were democrats - period.

Were they "leftists?" That's what the topic is, actually.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Cherry picking much aren't we?...

More so when the history.com website also states, and I quote:...


Founded in 1866, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) extended into almost every southern state by 1870 and became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Partys Reconstruction-era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for blacks. Its members waged an underground campaign of intimidation and violence directed at white and black Republican leaders.
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www.history.com...

The KKK was founded as a resistance to the Republican party... The KKK was founded by white conservative democrats... BTW, there were no blacks who were democrats... Blacks back then were all Republican. At least those who could get involved in politics in Republican sanctuaries, as well as free slaves.

Your attempt to claim that the KKK was started by the right is an obvious attempt at re-writing history.

There is a word that is to this day still used to describe this arm of the democrats.


Dixiecrats
Kari Frederickson, University of Alabama

The Dixiecrats were a political party organized in the summer of 1948 by conservative white southern Democrats committed to states' rights and the maintenance of segregation and opposed to federal intervention into race, and to a lesser degree, labor relations. The Dixiecrats, formally known as the States' Rights Democratic Party, were disturbed by their region's declining influence within the national Democratic Party. The Dixiecrats held their one and only convention in Birmingham.
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www.encyclopediaofalabama.org...

As for being "Nationalist"... WTH makes you think that nationalism is "right-wing"?... This is nothing but another attempt in your part to re-write history... This has been pointed dozens of times in these forums...

Nationalism in itself is not bad. Nationalism by itself is all about self-determination, or the belief that every country and it's people have a right to determine their own future, and the future of their country.

Pretty much every country has been nationalist. The problem is that the globalists do not want nationalism because it interferes with globalism and a One World Government. This is the reason why so many people in the left want to demonize nationalism.

Before you, or anyone else starts claiming that "you must be a nazi", I am not a "white nationalist", nor a "hispanic nationalist"... I detest Nazis from back when Hitler was in charge in Germany, to today's Nazis just as much as i detest Antifa, and black power movement groups like BLM, the Black Panthers etc. Any group that aims at puting any race above all others is part of this disease that is plaguing the world these days and started with Hitler.

In case you didn't know Gandhi was also a National Socialist... Yeah, the same movement that sprouted the evil NAZIs... In fact, Gandhi's version of "National Socialism" is known as "Gandhian Socialism".

National Socialism is not a right-wing movement. It is in fact a left-wing movement.

One of the newest form of "National Socialism" is coming from China's Communist Party".



National Socialism with Chinese Characteristics

Meet He Di, the insider trying to save the Chinese Communist Party from itself.

By John Garnaut
November 15, 2012

BEIJING — Two years ago, one of China’s most successful investment bankers broke away from his meetings in Berlin to explore a special exhibit that had caught his eye: "Hitler and the Germans: Nation and Crime." In the basement of the German History Museum, He Di watched crowds uneasily coming to terms with how their ancestors had embraced the Nazi promise of "advancement, prosperity and the reinstatement of former national grandeur," as the curators wrote in their introduction to the exhibit. He, vice-chairman of investment banking at the Swiss firm UBS, found the exhibition so enthralling, and so disturbing for the parallels he saw with back home, that he spent three days absorbing everything on Nazi history that he could find.
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foreignpolicy.com...

The above article is pointing out how a member of China's Communist Party came to realize that the same goals that Hitler had, the CCP also has, because both groups are radical leftists.



edit on 10-9-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 08:19 PM
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Historically, Democrats voted overwhelmingly against freeing the slaves and blocked women's suffrage for over a decade. They started re-branding themselves in the mid 20th century to take advantage of the civil rights movements lead by people like MLK.

But because they branded themselves as "leftist" all of 5 minutes ago, we should just forget everything about their past? Who do you think controls the party? At it's core the DNC is a center-right party posing as leftists to use minorities as a voting block to stay in power.

As for David Duke, anyone capable of critical thinking has known for a long time that he is controlled opposition and a professional provocateur. This should have became glaringly obvious when he endorsed Keith Ellison for DNC chair. The only time the media gives him a platform is to push a narrative during election seasons.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 08:28 PM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

I counter your Robert Byrd with former Democratic Senator Strom Thurmond. He even held the longest filibuster by a single Senator in Senate history at the time in order to block the 1957 Civil Rights Act. He switched over to the Republican Party around 1964 because of the Civil Rights Movement and stayed a Republican until his death in 2003 (yes, he kept getting elected as a Republican for almost 40 years after switching parties).


So...a racist Democrat infiltrates the Republican party after Democrats lost all their efforts at government-sanctioned white supremacy, and the party had to accept the fact that black Americans would be voting...and there's not possibly anything hinky about that, at all?

I just need to nod and say, "Yep, everything is always as-advertised in politics. The Democratic party would never ever resort to dirty tricks by projecting their racist legacy on Republicans to prop up their party and attract the new black voting bloc."

Yeah, right.


edit on 9/10/2017 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 09:11 PM
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Let's go over some of your attempts to rewrite history...


originally posted by: Southern Guardian
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The KKK has historically supported States Rights and a smaller Federal Government:


It is only recently that the democratic party has turned into a willing partner for global governance. However, the democrat party was the first one that wanted the people in the colonies to expand and "become imperialists". This became evident when the democrat party embraced "Manifest Destiny".


originally posted by: Southern Guardian
The KKK has been historically anti-immigration:


Well, it is obvious you do not understand the difference between "immigration" and "illegal immigration"... This shows just how absurd your argument is when in fact, either you don't seem to understand the difference between the two, or you are in fact trying to ignore that difference.

Being against illegal immigration is not the same as "being against all immigrants"... I am an immigrant, a legal immigrant from Cuba who had to wait almost 10 years in Spain to be accepted into the United States "legally".



originally posted by: Southern Guardian
David Duke, founder of and Grand Wizard of the Knights of the KKK, was and is still politically conservative:

David Duke, who switched from being a Democrat in the 70s/80s to then becoming a Republican, held conservative policies:

www.splcenter.org...


Your first mistake was using the SPLC as a source. This is the same SPLC that brands Americans as being "extremists" or a hate group for not kowtowing to the left-wing ideals of the SPLC...

Your second mistake is you trying to equate conservative values as just being Republican... There are conservative Democrats for a reason...

Conservative doesn't equal "right-wing"...

This just shows your total ignorance of what conservative means. In different countries being conservative is different to what it means in the U.S. for both democrats and republicans...



originally posted by: Southern Guardian
Another notable candidate the KKK has supported or endorsed is Donald Trump:


That is happening because the democratic party wants to give power to global entities like the UN over the U.S.
Not to mention that President Trump wants to do something about illegal immigration which is more than what democrats these days want to do...

But yet again, do we really need to post what HIllary Clinton and Bill Clinton were saying not that long ago about immigrants?...

Here is what Hillary Clinton was saying in 2014 about the children from illegal immigrants...



Here is part of the script of what she said...


...
We have to send a clear message, just because your child gets across the border, that doesnt mean the child gets to stay,” the former secretary of state said. “So, we dont want to send a message that is contrary to our laws or will encourage more children to make that dangerous journey.
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www.newsweek.com...

Here is what Bill Clinton was saying in 1995...



Here is another video showing what both Clintons were saying about illegal immigration until 2015...





originally posted by: Southern Guardian
The KKK is anti-Islam:


Heck, plenty of socialist and communist countries are anti-religion... But here is the difference you are obviously ignoring. There are countries in all sides of the aisle who see that there is a problem with "radical Islam."

China's tiny Muslim community provokes giant anti-Islam backlash

Putin’s Savage War Against Russia’s ‘New Muslims’

Perhaps you also forgot this...

EU Sues Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic For Not Taking Enough Muslim Refugees


originally posted by: Southern Guardian
Lastly, we all know that the KKK is Nationalist.


Already proved that nationalism can be left-wing or right-wing, and it doesn't always means "racism"...

BTW, the KKK has always been "anti-catholic". So they have always been against some religious groups. There are plenty of branches of socialism and communism which have adopted certain religions. Originally socialism and communism has been anti-religion, but with time branches have sprouted which embraced certain religious branches.



originally posted by: Southern Guardian
Many of you on here support exactly what the KKK has advocated for years. It's clear as day they are a socially conservative focused organization and movement. They always have been. Nobody here can prove otherwise (I seriously invite any of you to try).


More BS coming out from you... Seriously this thread should have been thrown in the LOL forum...but of course it won't be thrown in there because it tries to claim "republicans and conservatives are all pro-kkk"...


You sir, are full of BS.


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posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 09:14 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Vroomfondel




The truth of the matter is these people were democrats - period.

Were they "leftists?" That's what the topic is, actually.


Left and democrat are synonymous like right and conservative are. Its only when trying to obfuscate ones affiliation and activities that the lines become blurred and we need to start hyphenating. Left is left and right is right. Now we have to have far-left, left-centrist, etc. Its all variations on a theme. And its all varying degrees of the same perspective. These divisions are just attempts to blur truth and legitimize one at the expense of the other. For example, you could say one person is perturbed, another is upset, and another is raging. That is just bickering over the degree of intensity. The truth is: they are all angry. You can hyphenate all you want. In the end they are all democrats.

Or, if you like, lets reverse this perspective and say something like - everything Bush did has nothing to do with republicans because Bush was not a true republican in his actions or words so we should stop blaming republicans and conservatives for anything Bush did.

How do you think that will go over?



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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So what about "conservative democrats"?



Conservative Democrat
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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In American politics, a conservative Democrat is a member of the Democratic Party with conservative political views, or with views relatively conservative with respect to those of the national party. While such members of the Democratic Party can be found throughout the nation, actual elected officials are disproportionately found within the Southern states, and to a lesser extent within rural regions of the United States generally, more commonly in the West.
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en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 09:30 PM
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Oh and btw... does anybody remembers Obama's speech in 2006 about better fences and security in both borders, and that it would "help stop illegal immigration"?

You will find Obama's speech starting at 3:39 in the video below.


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posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 09:37 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
The common thread throughout the post was that all these democrats who were kkk and the like were never really leftist or "true" democrats.

The truth of the matter is these people were democrats - period. When they were democrats and were pro kkk it didn't seem like it got much attention. But when they switched to republican all of a sudden it was a big deal.

I like how democrats do all the things they complain about other people doing, then deny that they are really democrats while doing it. Zebras don't change their stripes.


I don't log in often, but I've been following this thread and you took the words out of my mouth. No matter how you try to change schematics, there is still a (D) after the name KKK. Whether that is fair or not is not my or anyone else's problem. It is what it is. You're gonna have to live with the fact that there is little to NO mention of "R's" in KKK's history. Live with it and stop playing schematics.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 09:55 PM
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These is the statement you alluded to.



The KKK endorses Christian values and is almost a requirement
within the organization:


Apparently the KKK has been living under a strong delusion,
because their past behavior is antithetical to Christian Values.

I think the KKK, or anyone that supports them, would be better
served by stating the truth, that they are nominal Christians.
They clearly are not men and women who practice Christ
teachings of loving ones enemies.

Surely only a delusion burns a cross on peoples lawn, under
the idea they are following Christians values.

I also thought it quite odd you presume to be knowledgeable
about the KKK, and yet never mentioned Albert Pike.



posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
Zebras don't change their stripes.


But they do change their stripes, when they die. The stripes rot away.

If you've got beef with dead Democrats then try protesting some statues. Fortunately we're living in the Free World, where not only are people allowed to change their minds, but parties can change and evolve too, and you don't have to suffer punishment for who your ancestors are, whether genetic or just ideological. We aren't living under the code of Hammurabi anymore.

Who's been denying they are a Democrat? (Not me btw, not a Democrat) And for that matter, who's been denying that the KKK where Democrats? What does it matter? Are you really gonna hold a generational grudge for things the Confederacy did more than 150 years ago? Just doesn't seem constructive.

EDIT: Well you where talking about the KKK, not the Confederacy, but my point still stands.
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posted on Sep, 10 2017 @ 10:24 PM
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Sorry, bro. Not buying it.....

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