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Star Trek: Discovery Likens Trump Supporters to Racist Klingons

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posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 05:17 AM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

Regarding the poster for the new star trek discovery:
Observe the single eye inside an upside down pyramid.
Illuminati nonsense, or pure coincidence?




posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 06:00 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

When you think about it; well that's asking a bit much I know.

I think there is actually a better connotation to being called as "racist" than just another useful idiot for the left.

It does, after all, infer that I am able to think on my own and make my own decisions. Be they right, wrong, or indifferent. They are still the results of my own critical thinking.

However, I do not think I am, what would be called a "classic racist", I have always advocated there being only one race of humans living on this planet at this time. If anyone can show me another, I would be very happy to meet them. As yet I have no reason to hold any prejudice against them, but then again I don't know them.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 06:08 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Breitbart is the one who assumes that isolationism and racism on the part of Klingons means that they represent Trump supporters. Think about it.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 08:27 AM
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Honestly the Klingons always reminded me of modern day American military personal from my personal experiences with them.

Any way, must remember ST:TOS was made in a different time with a different world view, same as the later shows that followed. Each was a product of its time.
Quite often people seem to forget that.

Kirks attitude towards women for example, and how people try to use it to show misogyny exists in modern times or some rot is like a feminist I met who bitched about how oppressed women are because of experiences she had in the workplace 30 years ago, who got rather ragey on me when I asked her how she is oppressed now and what rights she is lacking compared to me a male. She couldn't answer just kept reaching into the past and got even more upset when I listed off all the rights she has as a modern woman that I as a male do not have.
It's strawman to use past pop culture as a point for current issues.

Anyways, it's a TV show. I'll judge it myself when I watch it. I mean opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.
Never been one to avoid a film or tv show because it offended someone else.

When I do watch it either one of two things will happen.
I'll thoroughly enjoy it and watch it.
or
I'll watch it, find it's awful and then not watch it.
Seems pretty simple enough.

But yeah what I won't do is get all outraged because some blog or forum post says I should.

I tend to only care about # that actually matters in the real world.
Maybe more people should learn how the power switch works on their electronic devices and realise we have control over what we expose ourselves to, instead of blaming everyone else for being miserable as if they held a gun to our head and made us watch or read anything.

Freewill. It's a wonderful thing.

edit on 14-9-2017 by AtomicKangaroo because: typos



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 09:15 PM
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I just watched the first episode of Star Trek Discovery. I have come to a unique view. Are the Klingons a representation of Black or Muslims? The leader of the Klingons talks of tribes and houses. The leader also has full lips and African features. All of the Klingons are dark skinned except for one. That one has no house or name and is more of an outsider. This does not equate to Russians to me. Black people are considered to be more conscious of race than most Whites. The logical solution from the Vulcans is to hit them first to show that you are unafraid of violence. Is Star Trek Discovery saying that the way to deal with civil unrest is to punch the protesters in the nose to show you won't be bullied?

I did find the show engaging but I will not watch the rest of the episodes until they are on "over the air" TV.

Just my take on the show.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 10:15 PM
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The Klingons, were always somewhat dark going back to the original series, in various star trek spinoffs, they add more ridges and progressively got darker, however their original belligerency was tied to Russians, one black writer/comedian said recently, the only ethnic group that Black ppl are afraid of and generally don't fkwith, are Russians, because they keep it real with ur ass, owing to the fact of their social history.
The Muslim thing maybe apt tho, as these set of Klingons are deeply religious or fundamentalist.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 10:27 PM
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originally posted by: feldercarb
I just watched the first episode of Star Trek Discovery. I have come to a unique view. Are the Klingons a representation of Black or Muslims? The leader of the Klingons talks of tribes and houses. The leader also has full lips and African features. All of the Klingons are dark skinned except for one. That one has no house or name and is more of an outsider. This does not equate to Russians to me. Black people are considered to be more conscious of race than most Whites. The logical solution from the Vulcans is to hit them first to show that you are unafraid of violence. Is Star Trek Discovery saying that the way to deal with civil unrest is to punch the protesters in the nose to show you won't be bullied?

I did find the show engaging but I will not watch the rest of the episodes until they are on "over the air" TV.

Just my take on the show.


I don't know what the hell I just watched as it sure as hell wasn't Star Trek!

First... Kling-Orcs .... really, and like the last poster mentioned, they seemed kind of "Egyptian'ish" to me with the sarcophagus like coffins and mystery religion like impression.

Secondly, the Kling-orcs hadn't been seen in hundreds of years?

Then the attempted mutiny and unprovoked attack... not very Star Trek at all.

This was even worse than expected.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: feldercarb

The Klingons, were always somewhat dark going back to the original series, in various star trek spinoffs, they add more ridges and progressively got darker, however their original belligerency was tied to Russians, one black writer/comedian said recently, the only ethnic group that Black ppl are afraid of and generally don't fkwith, are Russians, because they keep it real with ur ass, owing to the fact of their social history.
The Muslim thing maybe apt tho, as these set of Klingons are deeply religious or fundamentalist.


Okay, I agree with your quote but does the episode really make you feel that the Klingons are more Russian or Trump supporters compared to stereotypes of Muslim or Blacks. The dialogue of the Klingons just feels to more reflect either Blacks or Muslims than Russian or Trump supporters. Trump supports don't care about "tribes" or color of skin. Trump supporters would be more about money like the Ferengi.

Just my point of view.
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posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 10:35 PM
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I watched the first episode tonight, before having seen any mention anywhere about the show being meant to showcase a political agenda, and so without having any preconceived idea about the show, didn't see any kind of racism or Trump supporter comparisons or whatever.

And now after seeing this thread, I still don't see it. I guess I just don't translate everything I see like liberals today do, into racist themes and reasons to hate on Trump and Trump supporters. I guess I was lucky when born this way?



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 10:39 PM
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From what you are saying you are also saying that the "Kling Orcs" have a more African/Arab mythology compared to Russian or Trump Supporter. The original theory of the Klingons being Trump supporters does not seem to coincide with the actual show.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 10:42 PM
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So people will vote for republicans because the Klingons are portrayed as evil followers of trump?



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 10:47 PM
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originally posted by: feldercarb
a reply to: infolurker

From what you are saying you are also saying that the "Kling Orcs" have a more African/Arab mythology compared to Russian or Trump Supporter. The original theory of the Klingons being Trump supporters does not seem to coincide with the actual show.


Nothing I seen there looked like anything related or resembling any American'ism at all.

More Egyptian than anything else from first appearances. Of course I will not be able to watch any following episodes until CBS decides to put them on TV.



posted on Sep, 24 2017 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: feldercarb

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: feldercarb

The Klingons, were always somewhat dark going back to the original series, in various star trek spinoffs, they add more ridges and progressively got darker, however their original belligerency was tied to Russians, one black writer/comedian said recently, the only ethnic group that Black ppl are afraid of and generally don't fkwith, are Russians, because they keep it real with ur ass, owing to the fact of their social history.
The Muslim thing maybe apt tho, as these set of Klingons are deeply religious or fundamentalist.


Okay, I agree with your quote but does the episode really make you feel that the Klingons are more Russian or Trump supporters compared to stereotypes of Muslim or Blacks. The dialogue of the Klingons just feels to more reflect either Blacks or Muslims than Russian or Trump supporters. Trump supports don't care about "tribes" or color of skin. Trump supporters would be more about money like the Ferengi.

Just my point of view.

Well I wouldn't want to pigeon hole all trump supports, but a great many of them do just that, eg folks on the ALTs right side of the game I see in that light, but it's a new series, will have to wait for more plot development, keep in mind the Klingons will eventually become allies, and their society may proved to be as complex and contradictory as our politics and nation.
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