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Letter To The Liberals

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posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 02:37 AM
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I wrote this as a response to this news item published @Guardian:

US gun makers battle 'Trump slump' as sales fall compared to 2016

Personally I am mighty glad about this "Trump Slump" in weapons sales. Obviously the Guardian preferred Obama's BOOM in gun sales (pun intended). This consumer behavior reflects the fact that Americans are feeling a little more SECURE, quite literally. That's a good thing, too.

I am just playing you: I know that it is because they are not worried about the liberals taking their guns away with legislation. I am making a point at the same time, though.

Does this not give the liberals a glimpse into "backlash"? Surely, I tell you, that is what you need to know more than anything else I can think of right now. You need to know that all the extreme policies you are pushing relating to gender, sexuality, race and gun control are backfiring spectacularly.

I am a socialist and I find what you are doing to be ridiculous and so obvious. I do not give audience to media that plays infantile head games with me relating to social engineering. Do you not understand that we make up our own attitudes? HOW DARE the state or MSM think they have a right to condition people and tell them even what ATTITUDES to have. You are the Orwellian nightmare. The worst of it is that you do not even see it. I will not have ANYONE tell me what attitudes I should hold socially. I am an individual who makes up my own mind. Everyone else is, too. They have and are making up their minds that the liberal/left side of the equation is too extreme and crazy to have political power right now.

The very social issues you care about most, race and gender issues are being sabotaged by you because it is you, by way of extreme positive DISCRIMINATION ALIENATING the majorities in the U.S and Britain, particularly. Brexit and Trump are obvious signs that if you say walk left the majority will indeed walk right twice as fast.

I really do care about equality for women. I equally care about cohesion in a multi racial diverse society. I believe that extreme positive discrimination will continue to backfire spectacularly like fireworks in your face.

There is no way you are going to make the majority of the electorate into happy socially engineered liberals, no matter how much you persist. I am actually really glad about that.

As it stands I am a socialist. Yet I am so worried about you guys getting your hands on power again while you are all frothing at the mouth like this. I shall be voting and supporting the right until you show that you are sane enough to look after us ALL, not just positively discriminating for minorities and causing a huge backlash from your social engineering whip.

Here's a little prediction. Tories will win at least one more election and PRESIDENT Trump (to you) will have two terms. That should give you enough time to come back down to earth and realize the error of what you are doing alienating the majorities like this. They will not like you for it. You even tried to SABOTAGE democratic majority decisions because you are so fascist (one way only dictatorial). It is very unhealthy. Power must NEVER be toyed with like this in a democratic society.

This is how to make a right wing voter out of a former left wing socialist. Politicians are the very LAST people to tell anyone about race or be trusted about it. Hitler was a politician. Politicians manipulate. The last thing ANY of us need, black to white, is politicians manipulating us over race. DROP IT! You'll end up having everyone hating the Jewish people again like this. You are making it worse, not better. It does not work. It makes things worse. Look around you for once and see realistically the effects of your manipulation and social engineering; like a backfiring gun, like a reverse psychology policy!


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posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 03:04 AM
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This consumer behavior reflects the fact that Americans are feeling a little more SECURE, quite literally.

Not really. Trump doesn't have FOX news, the NRA and every right wing pundit screaming he's going to take your guns.



posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 03:08 AM
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I think it's better read with music.... Greensleeves
www.youtube.com...




originally posted by: Revolution9
I wrote this as a response to this news item published @Guardian:

US gun makers battle 'Trump slump' as sales fall compared to 2016

Personally I am mighty glad about this "Trump Slump" in weapons sales. Obviously the Guardian preferred Obama's BOOM in gun sales (pun intended). This consumer behavior reflects the fact that Americans are feeling a little more SECURE, quite literally. That's a good thing, too.

I am just playing you: I know that it is because they are not worried about the liberals taking their guns away with legislation. I am making a point at the same time, though.

Does this not give the liberals a glimpse into "backlash"? Surely, I tell you, that is what you need to know more than anything else I can think of right now. You need to know that all the extreme policies you are pushing relating to gender, sexuality, race and gun control are backfiring spectacularly.

I am a socialist and I find what you are doing to be ridiculous and so obvious. I do not give audience to media that plays infantile head games with me relating to social engineering. Do you not understand that we make up our own attitudes? HOW DARE the state or MSM think they have a right to condition people and tell them even what ATTITUDES to have. You are the Orwellian nightmare. The worst of it is that you do not even see it. I will not have ANYONE tell me what attitudes I should hold socially. I am an individual who makes up my own mind. Everyone else is, too. They have and are making up their minds that the liberal/left side of the equation is too extreme and crazy to have political power right now.

The very social issues you care about most, race and gender issues are being sabotaged by you because it is you, by way of extreme positive DISCRIMINATION ALIENATING the majorities in the U.S and Britain, particularly. Brexit and Trump are obvious signs that if you say walk left the majority will indeed walk right twice as fast.

I really do care about equality for women. I equally care about cohesion in a multi racial diverse society. I believe that extreme positive discrimination will continue to backfire spectacularly like fireworks in your face.

There is no way you are going to make the majority of the electorate into happy socially engineered liberals, no matter how much you persist. I am actually really glad about that.

As it stands I am a socialist. Yet I am so worried about you guys getting your hands on power again while you are all frothing at the mouth like this. I shall be voting and supporting the right until you show that you are sane enough to look after us ALL, not just positively discriminating for minorities and causing a huge backlash from your social engineering whip.

Here's a little prediction. Tories will win at least one more election and PRESIDENT Trump (to you) will have two terms. That should give you enough time to come back down to earth and realize the error of what you are doing alienating the majorities like this. They will not like you for it. You even tried to SABOTAGE democratic majority decisions because you are so fascist (one way only dictatorial). It is very unhealthy. Power must NEVER be toyed with like this in a democratic society.

This is how to make a right wing voter out of a former left wing socialist. Politicians are the very LAST people to tell anyone about race or be trusted about it. Hitler was a politician. Politicians manipulate. The last thing ANY of us need, black to white, is politicians manipulating us over race. DROP IT! You'll end up having everyone hating the Jewish people again like this. You are making it worse, not better. It does not work. It makes things worse. Look around you for once and see realistically the effects of your manipulation and social engineering; like a backfiring gun, like a reverse psychology policy!




posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 03:14 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010



This consumer behavior reflects the fact that Americans are feeling a little more SECURE, quite literally.

Not really. Trump doesn't have FOX news, the NRA and every right wing pundit screaming he's going to take your guns.


If you read PROPERLY you will see that I used it as a "fake" explanation to make a point in the very next paragraph. Yes, of course that is what it is, but please read properly.



posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 03:20 AM
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Maybe all who want a gun, have a gun?



posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 03:21 AM
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a reply to: imitator

Wow, actually her voice is lovely. That's a good performance. Yes, I agree.

I am a full on Bob Marley, stick up for everybody kind of guy, but alienating the majority like this is #ing things up for me, truly. The attitudes I see around me are more aggressive than I have ever seen in Britain. It is coming from alienation and backlash, head games and making invisible because it suits a politician not to have it exist. I don't polarize people. I'll listen to Bob Marley while reading a TS Eliot poem. It is important we unite and do not fragment into divisions and revisions an age of Republican government even can not reverse (if you know TS Eliot you will spot the pun there).

I make music inspired by Chicago black music and Jamaican Reggae. Black culture has a big influence on me, but on my own terms, not just a brainwashed "citizen", lol. It took me many years to develop my own personality and my own attitudes relating to this existence. I have read a lot of books, listened to a lot of people. I will never take kindly to anyone treading over that with garbage media brainwashing, political manipulation, draconian social engineering, remote psychology or any other kind of "Voodoo". it is so transparent you could wave at Granny through it, lol.


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posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 03:28 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Maybe all who want a gun, have a gun?


The gun argument is not specific to this thread. It is not about that. It is using the drop in the gun sales data to demonstrate the "backlash" effect on media and political social engineering when they dictate agendas that invade our collective personal space.

Social engineering of ANY kind is not welcome in democracy. We have a vote to take care of that. It is an enemy of democracy. It will destabilize democracy, possibly even dangerously and irreparably.



posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 03:41 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9

Country should be above ideology. America was born in individualism. Let us stop feeling belittled on differences and start celebrating them.

Let us truly make America great again by being mavericks as opposed to being fickle and afraid. We're all adults and capable of accepting new ideas.



posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 03:50 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9




Brexit and Trump are obvious signs that if you say walk left the majority will indeed walk right twice as fast.

Can't speak for why Trump was elected but Brexit was a result of of discontentment with the EU that has been building for years , people voted to leave because of the slanted policies coming from the European parliament and the erosion of our sovereignty not because they were told not to.
I agree that social engineering is taking place but it has been for years if not decades , the Tories are as guilty as Labour of social engineering.

Political correctness is the problem in this country at the moment ,we've given an inch and the easily offended have taken a mile , jailing people for expressing views that people find offensive cannot be right in a truly free society , we must have the right to offend just as others have the right to be offended.

I don't see why as a socialist you would vote for the right , it's like cutting your nose off to spite your face.

We don't need to change the government we need to change the system , the only way to do that is to not take part in a system that is skewed against us , en masse.



posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 03:59 AM
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a reply to: gortex

You can only speak for yourself regarding how you voted on the EU. The "backlash" effect is very much more complex than that. EU is for another time as this is not specifically about that.

I am not voting Tory...ever! Where did I say I will vote for the Tories? I said I will vote right. I did not tell you what that means. Please don't tell me you know what I will do when I don't even know yet.

As a true SOCIALIST it is my business to support those who most represent a way to cohesive society. The Tories can't do that, but the Liberals (most of Labour Party that includes) are alienating the majority and will never get any power like this. They are more the loony left than ever and people will not buy into this. Mean time, everywhere I look - adverts, Guardian columns, BBC, just about everywhere on MSM it is social engineering gone riot, giving opportunities clearly disproportionately to minorities; archetypal positive discrimination. The MS and The State are dividing, grouping, marginalising into specific categories. It is about nation destroying and identity destroying, but replaced by what? It is replaced with an Orwellian media fed 24/7 mantra in every Hollywood movie, in every advert, in every MSM Newspaper, on every #ing cereal packet, lol. This is state spam. It has utterly alienated me for many years. It is very rudimentary and brazen psychological and social manipulation. It is not being done for humanity. It is being done for social control, fragmentization and threat removal (like an anti virus app). Humans do not work like this.

See if I am right or wrong. Let's have another few years of this then and see how much more we can alienate the majority and make them even more right wing, aggressive and brute like. Let's totally destroy any credibility feminism and rights between sexual preferences have (I will not use that awful abbreviation, it stinks). I am trying to tell you all that all this is too personal for the state to get involved in. It will cause big problems and backlash effects, thus sabotaging the very things liberalism boasts of championing.

What you are failing to comprehend is that I am playing some mind games of my own here. It is not meet with my purpose to disclose to you exactly what I am doing and why.

Reverse psychology, hint hint!




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posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 04:03 AM
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It's good to know some will swing to the other side of the spectrum, if only to keep the balance. But be careful you are not 'mugged by reality' in the meantime. A lot of us have been there.
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posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 04:19 AM
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originally posted by: TheTory
It's good to know some will swing to the other side of the spectrum, if only to keep the balance. But be careful you are not 'mugged by reality' in the meantime. A lot of us have been there.


Again, you do not know my intentions. You do not know the games I play to get others to swing for me and my cause instead of me doing any swinging at all. In fact, I HAVE NOT SWUNG AT ALL! There is absolutely zero change in my attitudes. They are swinging. They are swinging the wrong way and will crash into a wall like a wrecking ball, that will come tumbling down and hurt something that is very precious and dear to me.

It is a case of knowing your song well before you sing it to other people. If we are going to lead others and have ideologies we must be sure that we are not self harming, that we are not SHOOTING OURSELVES IN OUR OWN FOOT. I have explained enough. I'll end my contribution with that metaphor as it suits the spirit in which I began this thread.

Liberals! You are a self harming Wrecking Ball:




posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 04:34 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9

Miley Cyrus?
Seriously?



posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 04:36 AM
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It's weird isn't it, perception. I live in the UK, but I don't see this extreme leftist social engineering that you're so concerned about.

I just see efforts to combat sexism and racism. But not even that much of an effort. We've got a major contender for the next Prime Minister saying no abortion even in cases of rape, and all non white people should be repatriated.



posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 04:38 AM
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oops

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posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 08:53 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9

The thing is, Revolution9, everything, including your perception of "liberal mind police/policies of doom," is a reaction, or backlash, to the actions and reactions of others.

Find the log in the conservative eye, and we can talk about the speck in the liberal one. And yes, at times it is the other way around.

It is all a matter of perception. If one sees ones values as "good" one will not understand how others will not wholly benefit from those values. Other values outside one's own are "beyond the pale" of comfort, they cause dis-comfort. And thus an ideological battle is born.

Again, I'm not saying I speak for or even stand for "all liberal values" because I don't. I will say that everyone needs to learn to listen to each other more and with compassion rather than preconceived notions and a sense of superiority. Again EVERYONE needs to do this, and I include myself.

Peace,
AB


PS: I get you are socialist.

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posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 09:12 AM
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oh, goodie, another "the liberals are so....." threads..
as if ATS isn't filled with them already.
heck there's so many, some of which seem to come close to threatening anti-liberal threads, one might come to the conclusion that the conservatives are attempting to do the social engineering that they want to accuse the liberals of doing.
it's gotten to be a kind of a "unless you are prepared to act like you believe everything the far right proposes to you, don't come to ATS unless you desire to be insulted, accused, and occasionally made to feel threatened..
so, I will say good-bye....
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posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
oh, goodie, another "the liberals are so....." threads..
as if ATS isn't filled with them already.
heck there's so many, some of which seem to come close to threatening anti-liberal threads, one might come to the conclusion that the conservatives are attempting to do the social engineering that they want to accuse the liberals of doing.


Ha ha, great point!



posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 09:19 AM
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Social engineering of ANY kind is not welcome in democracy. We have a vote to take care of that. It is an enemy of democracy. It will destabilize democracy, possibly even dangerously and irreparably.


We have had decades of social engineering. The whole open borders, multiculturalism, diversity, business is Globalist social engineering thats been going on for decades and it has worked marvelously to produce leftist antifa millenials who are proponents of identity politics designed to divide the population along race and cultural lines. That has worked marvelously to take the public's attention away from the rampant theft by the 1% and the take over of the government by the Deep State Intelligence Agencies and contractors pushing for a new cold war with Russia so they can syphon off billions in profits.

You can argue against social engineering but its pointless because its everywhere, its insipid, its an industry creatng billions in profits for those who write the manuals and seminar and conference materials.



posted on Sep, 9 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9

Socialist eh? How are things down at the collective? My bet is a lipstick socialist with a middle management gig for the man.



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