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more evidence the billy meier case is an hoax

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posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: Jay-morris

once again agree


The problem with this case, and billy meier, is the cult status of billy meier. He is basically a cult leader, and people who believe him, will not be swayed but the evidence that this is a hoax.

I have debated with many believers of billy meier, and also debated with Mr horn. In the end, I gave up. There is no point debating with people who are brainwashed when it comes to this case.


I was able to show Mr. Horn that everything Billy said in what he called "the Henoch prophesies" was already known well before the time Billy claimed to have received it. This was in an online event on another website.

Horn simply said he wasn't aware of that. No other response.

Well, he's aware of it now.

Harte




posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 06:22 PM
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originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: Jay-morris

i believe horn is also in the conspiracy

He is paid a cut of the proceeds in the U.S. Or, he was.

Doubt there's much money left in that cash cow. It's run pretty dry since Billy's heyday.

Harte



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: Harte

Precisely...

He was (and still may be), and I paraphrase because I don't care enough to look it up, "The Official U.S. Representative of Meier and the institute" or whatever... that explicitly implies an economic interest. I imagine the incentive has long since dwindled in light of the debunking of the case by folks like Jeff Ritzmann, and many other people including multiple ATS members. I believe it was one of our own ATS members who found the "ray gun" for sale on a toy site back in the day.
LOL



posted on Sep, 12 2017 @ 09:56 PM
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originally posted by: Springer
a reply to: Harte

Precisely...

He was (and still may be), and I paraphrase because I don't care enough to look it up, "The Official U.S. Representative of Meier and the institute" or whatever... that explicitly implies an economic interest. I imagine the incentive has long since dwindled in light of the debunking of the case by folks like Jeff Ritzmann, and many other people including multiple ATS members. I believe it was one of our own ATS members who found the "ray gun" for sale on a toy site back in the day.
LOL

Yeah, guess I neglected to mention the impact this very site had on the Meier case.

There's a whole bunch of stuff right here at ATS all about Meier and his claims. In fact, I believe Horn became a member here, IIRC
But Ritzmann had some of the best info. He was a true expert in photography.
When I read those threads, I couldn't add anything to them. It was very well done, several times over.

Harte



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: Harte

while horn may look gullible as i have already said hes probally in the conspiracy too



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: Harte

yeah hes an joke now



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: Springer

wow springer posted in my thread!
ahem more seriously, yes back when people actually did research here, not political sh#tposting, they would find an lot of cool stuff



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: Harte

yes he was an menber here, i believe horn has an profile in most social websites and conspiracy forums like this one



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: humanoidlord

That Horn fella is a joke.

I had a good debate with him on another forum about a year ago, and when i posted the photo's of the dinosaurs from the book they came from, he just stopped replying.

He's a charlatan conman deceitful no good petty liar



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: chunder
But is there a chance that an early contact and some photos were real, he was then used by an intel / military agency before perpetuating further hoaxes for his own ends ?

If that's true, all he has to do is provide good, solid evidence of it. Unfortunately, he crapped his bed, and if he expects anybody to believe it, the proof would have to be airtight, solid, and indisputable.

And if it turns out that he really did contact actual aliens and we blow a wonderful opportunity to expand our consciousness and science, the blame rests solely on him, not us.



posted on Sep, 14 2017 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: SecretKnowledge

yup that he is



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