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North Korea Has Never Attacked the US, but the US Has Killed an Estimated 4-10 Million Koreans

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posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 10:03 PM
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“I shrink with horror that I cannot express in words … at this continuous slaughter of men in Korea. I have seen, I guess, as much blood and disaster as any living man, and it just curdled my stomach, the last time I was there.” ~ Gen. Douglas MacArthur's recounting of the Korean War (July.28/2017).



A common pattern used repeatedly by the late guru of propaganda — Edwards Bernays — was to turn a harmless entity into a fearsome enemy through lies and manufactured news stories. "North Korea Is An Enemy Of The State" propaganda campaign has been a very effective tool used to influence public perception and engineer consent. The U.S. Government has an extensive history of conducting planned campaigns of extensive strategic psychological operations — based upon the works of Bernays — through national media to influence and direct the perception and climate of the nation towards its imperialist objectives.

Many westerners perceive North Korea (DPRK) as its enemy — a real threat. Those who view North Korea as a threat have become a pawn through the engineering of consent. To allow propaganda to insinuate our lives and to go unchallenged is to remain devoutly ignorant.

So, as I read biased journalism promoting the idea America should bomb North Korea back to the stone age; along with similar perspectives shared on my Twitter feed and also right here on ATS — I have come to realize there are some people who possess a distorted version of history. This twisted perspective has greatly influenced their view of present day reality revolving around the geo-economics, geopolitics, and the military actions of both North Korea and America.

For instance:


A Rationale Analysis of What a Nuclear-armed North Korea Portends

1. It is clear from the cases of Iraq and Libya that a disarmed US-designated enemy is not spared from a violent opportunistic attack. That North Korea was included on George W Bush’s “axis of evil” along with Iraq triggered alarm bells in North Korea.

2. The US refuses a peace treaty with North Korea. [3] And the sanctions against North Korea constitute an act-of-war. Trump tweeted, “China could easily solve this problem.” But it is not China maintaining a state-of-war with North Korea.

3. The US is nuclear-armed, has used nuclear weapons, and does not adhere to a no-first-use policy.

Given the above three points would it be rationale to be without an effective deterrence against a military attack?

Furthermore, when North Korea did enter into an Agreed Framework with the US in 1994, among the obligations was an end to hostilities; normalization of relations, no nuclearization of the peninsula; freezing operation and construction of North Korean nuclear reactors in exchange for two proliferation-resistant nuclear power reactors; and, while awaiting completion of the nuclear reactors, the US was to provide oil for North Korean energy needs.

The US did not fulfill its obligations. In other words, the US cannot be trusted to uphold its end of any agreement.


Q: Why do some US citizens and other westerners perceive North Korea as an enemy of the state and a threat? Why does western national media and those who peddle the distorted truth continue to get away with such nonsense?

A: Propaganda.

After all, history has shown that it IS America who has always been a threat to North Korea and not the other way around.

The US has been threatening; pointing close range missiles at; imposing sanctions; and engaging in covert war against North Korea for the past 70 yrs.

The real question that should be asked is: Why Do North Koreans Hate and Distrust America?

Many Americans specifically, believe that North Koreans despise them for their freedom and democracy. Those who believe this lie are nothing but delusional. North Koreans don't hate Americans for their freedom and democracy. North Koreans hate and distrust Americans because they haven't forgotten what the American government did to them in the past: bombed them back to the Stone Age.

*During the Korean war, the US dropped 635 000 tons worth of bombs and 32 557 tons of Napalm on North Korea.

*The American military industrial complex killed more than 20% of North Korean population using chemical and biological weapons in just three years from 1950 to 1953.

*The America military industrial complex burned down every town in North Korea. Bombed every brick that was standing on top of another—along with everything that moved. America annihilated North Korea's infrastructure. North Korea became a living hell because of the US bombing campaign and yet, it is Americans who perceive North Korea as a threat despite N.Korea having never dropped a single bomb on US soil.

North Korea Has Never Attacked the US, but the US Has Killed an Estimated 4-10 Million Koreans: ahtribune.com...


North Korea has never attacked the US. It was the US that attacked North Korea during the so-called Korean War. The US used chemical and biological weapons, resulting in an estimated 4-10 million Koreans being killed.


In fact, US General Curtis Lemay, in the aftermath boasted: “After destroying North Korea’s seventy eight cities and thousands of her villages, and killing countless numbers of her civilians … Over a period of three years or so we killed off – what – twenty percent of the population.”

To understand the inhumanity of General Lemay's boastful words above—it needs to contemplated from this perspective:

During WWII, the United Kingdom lost 0.94% of its population, France lost 1.35%, China lost 1.89% and the US lost 0.32%. During the Korean war, North Korea lost close to 30% of its population.

All DPRK has ever done to offend the USA was rebuild itself to become stronger than it ever was before, despite ongoing pressure and unfair economic sanctions imposed on them by the American government.

North Korea does not have its navy patrolling the coast of North America like the US does in the Korean Peninsula. North Korea does not have fifteen close range military bases surrounding America with every kind of WMD pointing at like the US does. North Korea does not advocate for economic sanctions against America.

Again: who is the real threat? Who is the real aggressor?

North Korea has every right to increase its nuclear arsenal in order to defend itself — especially after history has been weighed.

It's clear that propaganda against DPRK has been so successful that many westerners don't view the people of North Korea as their fellow human beings who seek the same currency of life as the rest of us. Many seem to have the impression that the Kim Jong-un Regime is all that exist within the DPRK.

In fact, the propaganda campaign has been so successful — the harmless entity has now become a fearsome enemy.





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posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 10:16 PM
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Seriously?

The origin was a U.N. action, not U.S..

So you lost me there and horrible propaganda stats...

Ng



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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the jews never attacked Germany either but how many jews died at the hands of hitler before the world stopped it`s policy of appeasement towards hitler and Germany?

appeasement never prevents war it just delays it until the appeased feels ready and confident to launch the first attack.

it`s only been 85 years but the world seems to have already forgotten appeasement buys you nothing except a greater war and greater casualties.

hitler and Germany rebuilt their military in violation of the versailles treaty and the league of nations and the world did nothing,. the league of nations and the world gave hitler the entire country and populace of Yugoslavia and still it didn`t prevent a war. appeasement did nothing to make the world safer all it did was give hitler more time to prepare for war and prepare for the first strike.

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posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: Involutionist



The US used chemical and biological weapons, resulting in an estimated 4-10 million Koreans being killed.


Citation demonstrating direct proof that the US used chemical and biological weapons?

It sure is not in the link you provided.

This is the History forum. Not the I'm Going To Make Crap Up forum.


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posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 10:31 PM
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a reply to: Involutionist

Why? Because I am an American and North Korea presently has declared that they intend to strike this country with a nuclear weapon. I don't give a damn what America has or has not done to or with them, self preservation dictates that I'd rather see them taken out than see the chance of my own experiencing death and destruction from NorK WMDs.

All the rest of this, if coming from Americans, is virtue signaling pie-in-sky horsecrap... this isn't a popularity contest nor is it a "look how humanitarian I/we are!!!" glee club award ceremony, it's one country with nuclear weapons directly threatening a country with the full capacity and ability to grease spot the entirety of the other if we so choose.

Simply put, maybe it's time for the USA to remind the North Koreans of what it feels like to be an ant under a boot...



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: TerminalVelocity

that`s correct, and as a point of history north korea never signed a peace agreement, they signed a ceasefire agreement which they have violated many times so if the U.S. or any other signer of that ceasefire agreement decides to renew armed hostilities than they have every right to without violating the agreement, because north korea has already made that agreement null and void many times with their continued violations of the agreement.

maybe someone in north korea should explain this to lil kim,because he isn`t treading on thin ice he already fell through the ice and is free game.

in fact the U.S. would probably have already taken care of the north Korean nuisance in the 1960`s or early 70`s if they hadn`t already gotten themselves involved in Vietnam.




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posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 10:42 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

Yes, North Korea has violated the armistice many times over the decades.

They have in fact announced no less than 6 times that they would no longer abide by the armistice. The first time in 1994, and the latest time in 2013. Announcing that you will no longer abide by the armistice is the same thing as announcing you are intending hostilities.

In 2016, North Korea laid land mines around the Bridge Of No Return. Their excuse was the mines are to keep people from defecting to the south.

UN Command protested that act (hey OP, note that UN Command)



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 10:49 PM
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a reply to: Involutionist

I get the feeling that there's some Obama in your blood. He too, felt that if the USA suffers, it's payback for all the things we've done to others.

Actually, President Trump also said that the U.S. "is not innocent". But, like most other Americans, Trump is more concerned about the threat that North Korea is posing TODAY, more so than what we (the USA) may have done to North Korea in the past. He does not want current citizens of the United States to pay for damages that deceased USA leaders inflicted upon North Korea, decades ago.



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 11:09 PM
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I wonder how many North Koreans L'il Kim and his family have killed?



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: TerminalVelocity

exactly! there is no ceasefire anymore so if south korea, or the U.S. or anyone else wants to put an end to north korea than china Russia or nobody else can complain about it, it`s all legal


sure, a lot of people will die if north korea is attacked now but a lot more will die if we wait until they have a lot of nuke ICBM`s.

the time for appeasement is over it`s time to put an end to the 60 year problem called north korea.



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posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 11:44 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Involutionist

Why? Because I am an American and North Korea presently has declared that they intend to strike this country with a nuclear weapon. I don't give a damn what America has or has not done to or with them, self preservation dictates that I'd rather see them taken out than see the chance of my own experiencing death and destruction from NorK WMDs.

All the rest of this, if coming from Americans, is virtue signaling pie-in-sky horsecrap... this isn't a popularity contest nor is it a "look how humanitarian I/we are!!!" glee club award ceremony, it's one country with nuclear weapons directly threatening a country with the full capacity and ability to grease spot the entirety of the other if we so choose.

Simply put, maybe it's time for the USA to remind the North Koreans of what it feels like to be an ant under a boot...


Oh such a big, brave internet warrior aren't you?

Simply put - AMERICA are the ones with nukes threatening another country with nukes. It works both ways - sadly like most of your kind you're deluded, ignorant and no doubt on the receiving end of also propagandic levels of media influence.



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 11:53 PM
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I am 29 about to be 30 in Oct. but I am not a pawn. I know the atrocities that the US has committed throughout the world. I have a great uncle who fought in Vietnam and the stories he tells me is horrific. How they turned him into a killing robot.

You forgot to mention to mention the whole ordeal with the Sony's Comedy (The Interview). Where Bruce Bennet was the liaison between Sony and Obama (who was brought in by Michael Lynton - CEO of Sony/prominent member of Rand Corp and a close confidante of Obama). There were many in this spider web of deceit to change the DPRK regime.

They are to this day putting glossy propaganda leaflets against Kim Jung-un in balloons and sending over the border into NK. Rand Corp is tweeting 2 to 3 times a day links to Bennet's articles of propaganda against Kim Jung-un. So naturally tensions are rising.

I hope diplomacy wins in the end. Trump is a deal maker so I am crossing everything I have that a deal can be made. We are in total agreement they want to go about their business just as we do.



posted on Sep, 8 2017 @ 12:04 AM
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The origin was a U.N. action, not U.S..


Seriously...?

The crux: North Korea Has Never Attacked the US, but the US Has Killed an Estimated 4-10 Million Koreans.

Btw, I lean towards 4 million people killed.



So you lost me there and horrible propaganda stats...


Cool cool. How about these facts?

Again: The US has been threatening; pointing close range missiles at; imposing sanctions; and engaging in covert war against North Korea for the past 70 yrs.

Why...?



posted on Sep, 8 2017 @ 12:16 AM
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a reply to: Involutionist
Why? Man, you're smarter than that...

They don't play the IMF game. That's why.
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posted on Sep, 8 2017 @ 12:27 AM
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a reply to: Involutionist

You make things up and have no clue as to the cause. The korean war started because the north invaded the south. This caused a crises for the UN. The north had nothing to stop them until US forces landed in inchon. North korea had drove UN and ROK forces all the way to pusan. MacArthur landing in inchon caught North Korean army in a pincer movement and recaptured Seoul, the capital of South Korea. Instead of being satisfied with his rapid reconquest of South Korea, MacArthur crossed the 38TH Parallel and pursued the North Korean army all the way to the northernmost provinces of North Korea. Politics removes MacArthur from the war and instead of winning they tried to negotiate peace. This cost millions of lives and the problems which continue today.



posted on Sep, 8 2017 @ 12:28 AM
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"North Korea has every right to increase its nuclear arsenal in order to defend itself — especially after history has been weighed. "
ANY form of military strategy I have ever heard says you are HISTORICALLY mistaken and IT IS obvious to ANYONE who fights what you think is pacifist ,it will allow them to dig in as an international threat ...because WE aren't finished and MANY people in the North GET it as well.
GAD, a CHILD can see it.
We are STILL at war from the fifties, MY father fought from Clarke AFB, I was THERE in 86,were you ?
OF COURSE you weren't LOOK at that statement.
YOU can't flip the world to suit your OWN ideas.

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posted on Sep, 8 2017 @ 12:30 AM
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a reply to: Involutionist

North Korea has continually been the agressor. Stop getting your news from North Korea.



posted on Sep, 8 2017 @ 12:44 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

Ask yourself why NK is the aggressor. Maybe somebody needs aggressors for it's war regime and Kim-Jong is just one puppet in the old old show 😉



posted on Sep, 8 2017 @ 12:46 AM
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a reply to: mr-lizard

I'm none of those things. I'm only being realistic and stating a fact: America has the distinct ability to wipe our ass with any country we decide deserves it. We've spent a few decades "fighting" wars not to win, but to achieve maximum corporate profits. Don't delude yourself into believing that the US isn't fully capable of doing essentially whatever this country's leadership sets their mind to do. Russia and China may posture and flex where the NorKs are concerned, but when (not if) America has had enough of the world's pudgiest midget Kim Jong Dum, they will do nothing and like it while his entire palace is brought to the ground around him... doubt it? Ask Hussein, ask Ghadaffi, ask Omar, ask Allende, ask Trujillo, ask Lumumbo... Oh, wait, they're all dead dictators so you'll likely be waiting a long time for their answers.



posted on Sep, 8 2017 @ 12:56 AM
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originally posted by: missed_gear
Seriously?

The origin was a U.N. action, not U.S..

So you lost me there and horrible propaganda stats...

Ng

The origin was the old Soviet Union set up half of the previously economic giant to become communist. They were the only ones that ratified or accepted NK.
Then NK decided to try and take SK because their economy was failing
Never was a U.N. action until then
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