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The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left

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posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: RomeByFire

Please define for us the differences between liberals, libertarians, democrats and progressives. Thanks!



Not sure how this is on-topic or even remotely related to my comment

I pointed out the use of "all progressives," as if anyone believes they're so grandiose that they know adequately the in's and out's of potential hundreds of millions of individuals that fall under a certain political affiliation

If you think a libertarian belongs in that list, you need to first - read up on libertarian non-aggression principle - and secondly, read up and look up actions of violent progressives and violent conservatives alike

Last time I checked, libertarians aren't going out of their way to travel across state lines to commune in towns they do not belong in to chant "white power," and likewise they typically don't go LARPing in full black garb attacking limo's and StarBucks windows (#windowslivesmatter)

Lol wtf




posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

If you really think the Democrats from back then were so bad, then how do you feel about their confederacy? Republicans all over the country wave the flag and support the monuments of the same Democrats who formed the confederacy and founded the KKK afterwards.

And isn't it strange that you say Democrats helped start the Nazis, yet today's conservatives marched with literal neo-Nazis just a few weeks ago to protect the statues of their Democratic confederate heroes? Yet people are in this thread trying to pretend that they don't know the parties switched ideologies during the Civil Rights Movement (facepalm).

ok i'll stop for real now. maybe...



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

The US government and US industrialist have always held many political and business ties to the Nazi movement — before, during and after — WWII.

Madison Square Garden, New York (circa 1930's)



1930's Newspaper article



The Russians have always been more the enemy of Nazism than America ever was...



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015 OMG I wasn't going to post on this thread but thus far you have won the Darwin award as of late. Congrats on being very stupid. Nice job person. Please keep it going. Reminds me of a allseefor&$% comments or stupid post. Though I found them entertaining but also very stupid. So in a aspect I say thank you for the laughter atm.


edit on 2/19/2013 by Allaroundyou because: long work night



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 12:48 PM
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Person I do have a request. Please comment on this post and gice us a coynter argument so that us fellow member have some to ponder/ argue or agree on. I really think that shoulw be a rule after a post reaches a 3 page hit. So cmon what do you got on this? a reply to: xuenchen




posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: Involutionist

Yet in present day America, to many people do not even know the difference between Communism and Fascism. I think it is due to forty years of indoctrination by the industrialists who own the media.



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Do you ever have anything nice to say about liberals? Conservatives are not anywhere near perfect! It just seems like you're always trolling conservative views or attacking liberals. Both these political parties have some good ideas and bad ideas. Having said that, neither party addresses the real issues affecting the majority of Americans. ATS has become a reflection of what the main problem is in Washington. Too much infighting and attacking each other instead of addressing the real and immediate concerns of the majority of Americans.

Nothing of value arises when we continue to attack each other based upon our political affiliations. It's why we have grid-lock in congress, and the voice of the people always falls on deaf ears. It would be better to address how we could fix problems, instead of protecting a particular party when each has been embroiled in scandals, lies, self-serving decisions, lack of empathy, catering to corporate interests, and ignoring the tax burden put on the American public.

When the average salary of a representative in congress is $174,000 a year, including outstanding health benefits, and many perks. Ask yourself, can these people really relate to many struggling Americans? Why should they care about the low income of many Americans, or the millions who have poor healthcare insurance or don't have any when they're sitting comfortably with no worries. Many of them are multi-millionaires!

So why should the majority even defend these people? Republican or Democrat, they're in office to serve the American people! Yet most of them don't even read the legislation they pass, or can't even show up to flick a switch to vote for or against a bill! NEWS FLASH!!! Neither party is doing their job! Their job is to negotiate the best legislation for the American people. Yet both sides spend more time pointing fingers and flinging dirt at each other instead of doing the nation's business. I don't know about you, but I refuse to align myself with either self-serving party.



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 01:23 PM
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Just like a corporation can keep the same name even if it taken over or bought out by a bigger company so can political parties keep the same name even if their ideologies and values shift.

The republicans of today are not the republicans of lincoln's time just as the democrats of today are not the democrats of that time.

Perhaps if people were less obsessed with names and labels and more focused on the "current" ideology and the people who make up the present day political groups accting under their chosen name we wouldn't have this problem.

All of this is similar to the notion that nazis are like marxist socialist just because nazis has the word socialist in it. I am not a fan of marxist socialism but to say it is the same as the nazi ideology is as foolish as saying that North Korea is democratic because it is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.


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posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Have you ever heard of the "rebel flag"?



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: Involutionist
a reply to: xuenchen

The US government and US industrialist have always held many political and business ties to the Nazi movement — before, during and after — WWII.





Let's not forget after the war all the Nazis that were brought into intelligence and aerospace under project paperclip.



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 01:38 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Why do you guys always skip over the part of history where the racist Democrats switched sides to the Republicans?


Because they didn't switch sides. Guys like Robert Byrd just paid lip service to their benefactors and kept on as Democrats.



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

You're wrong about everything.

It was about the banks it started, and in the end was justified over the banks, taxes are a detail of banks btw.

FDR undid the hard work of good men that died for our economic freedom, and now surprise surprise we're run by a huge central bank again.

You're out of your damn mind if you don't find that to be the saddest true story of American history. The only reason we're even call American at all, and not a colony, was over separation from a central bank. In a nutshell he undid that. Jefferson did a full 1080 in his grave and the world kept on spinning.

Fun fact, FDR had other drafts of the new deal and even an open apology letter to the public, he knew it was the worst possible way EVER to get out of the recession, and he personally knew this made him a traitor to the founding fathers. He rashly destroyed the American dream to feed one generation if people that didn't new the New Deal anyway.
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posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: xuenchen

And we should listen to Dinesh D'Souza because???

Because he's a nonwhite ex-convict that supports the Republicans agenda.



So He must be a rapist or murderer right? Oh wait He went to prison due to political persecution.



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: SolAquarius

I cant speak too absolutely about the thinking behind the partiers of 150 years ago, but i know the republicans and democrats party of today are there mostly just to pay lip service to left right ideology in their ambtions to divide US and all that theyre doing it for.

That said, as far as ideology goes, eugenics was a "progressive" thing then, and whether the progressives of today yet realize it or not the modern permutation of eugenics (transhumanisn) they are yet the forebears of it all over again. As far as the democrats, theyre back to hyperracism as their party platform like in the old days, but this time its pitting everyone non straight white male etc against those that are, they have the robber barron technocrat industrialists of the age backing them like 100 years ago, and so on. The republicans, f them too, but its not like their party platform is white supremacy, far far from overt, while the dems SJW Supremacy supercedes all other matters now. And how interesting, the republicans hardly directly take the sjw agenda head on, and when someone like Trump does they shreik. Just look at how they condemned him for saying both sides are ugly after charllottesville. Their mode seems to be a passive subtle sort of troll let the sjw racists run amok over white people, while the dems they outright wide open agenda is to overlty and brutally perpetrate it.

This should prove the "two" partys need to go, but instead everyone around here it seems wants to work their asses off around here to keep EVERYTHING framed around the false left right paradigm. From my perspective criticizing the sjw insanity, the last year, my impression is the resident liberals are the ones most hell bent on this part.

The sad part is everyone acts like their party platform is some naturally occurring idealism, when it isnt. Not anymore. And worst part is everyone so bent on keeping this us vs them mentality while refusing to dig into why the parties and thise behind them themselves are pushing all thia bs. Working towards those ends is like the mechanism to keep the blinders to the real agendas firmly afixed.

One thing i can wager my life on is this: these technocrat industrialists fountainheading the sjw agenda, the last thing they actually care about are people. Theyre a bunch of psychopaths and youre all being played as tools and its time you wake up to this fact. THEY DONT GIVE A F ABOUT ANYBODY BUT THEIR ENDGAMES. Not you. Not me. Not black babies. Not mexicans. If theyd did there wouldnt be a war on drugs. And the fact that democrat blm antifa etc havent made shutting it down their exclusive battlecry PROVES theyre all a sham.
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posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: CarlsBad
a reply to: Krazysh0t

You're wrong about everything.

It was about the banks it started, and in the end was justified over the banks, taxes are a detail of banks btw.

Lol. I'm wrong but you don't explain why. Don't worry. I don't believe you because of this lack of information though. And taxes have nothing to do with banks. Where did you get that lunacy from? The government levels taxes. Not banks.


FDR undid the hard work of good men that died for our economic freedom, and now surprise surprise we're run by a huge central bank again.

You DO know that one of the original Founding Fathers, Alexander Hamilton (a man that George Washington considered a son), started up the first centralized bank in the US right? Him and the Federalists were big time supporters of centralized banks.


You're out of your damn mind if you don't find that to be the saddest true story of American history. The only reason we're even call American at all, and not a colony, was over separation from a central bank. In a nutshell he undid that. Jefferson did a full 1080 in his grave and the world kept on spinning.

Lol. It's too funny how you fail at history and don't understand our founding fathers at all. You make it sound like the founding fathers were united in their beliefs in how the country should be ran when in reality they were just as divided politically as any other time in our history.


Fun fact, FDR had other drafts of the new deal and even an open apology letter to the public, he knew it was the worst possible way EVER to get out of the recession, and he personally knew this made him a traitor to the founding fathers.

Fun fact: You made this # up.
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posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 02:01 PM
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Why do we keep bringing up the past to burn/insult/degrade people/groups of people in the present?

We need to look at what people/groups of people are doing in the present. That's wht actually defines them.



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 02:03 PM
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originally posted by: CarlsBad
a reply to: Krazysh0t


A US centralized bank wasn't a fear in a non-global economy dumbass.

Ad hominems? Tsk tsk... Clearly someone is for a lack of an argument when they have to stoop to insulting someone to get their point across.

But in any case you are wrong. The British Empire extended all over the world. All that tea we paid taxes on came from India for one.


The goal was for the USA to have it's own centralized bank no matter what side of the coin you were on.

The great depression era was a completely different story, and centralized or not the money was backed in gold, and thusly removed, thus reverting back to the state prior to the Revolutionary War with a central bank funding the USA, but OTHER COUNTRIES also.

Man you really need to stop talking and go do some research. The money wasn't removed from the gold standard during the Great Depression. It was removed by Nixon to prevent people from bank rushing during a recession.


You're literally too dumb and stubborn to talk to over this as you mock your own revisionist history and societal arrogance that you could even remotely be correct in this sentiment when you are not. The USA was made independent over the central bank of England being a # and the USA getting a Hard-on for opposing central banks, larger than the United States. Ultimately it was centralizing the national bank that ruined them and so FDR learned nothing from history and obviously neither did you.

It would be great if you'd actually back up your lunacy with sources and proof since it runs so counter to generally agreed upon history. I'd like to know where you are getting this information from. I'm guessing Daily Mail.

Here's some actual history for you to read up on:
First Bank of the United States
Fun fact: The 1st BUS was partially foreign owned just like the 2nd BUS and the FED are today.
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posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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My leftist roots and background, apparently....has not started a psychological time clock, when it starts at 12 o'clock for my leftist leanings --- but turns clockwise 360 --- that reveals a leftist = right winger Nazi sympathizer analog.

Ain't gonna happen to me.

No way...

Uh uh




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