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Irreducible complexity and Evolution

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posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 12:23 AM
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a reply to: peter vlar

I beg to differ.

Long version:

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posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 12:31 AM
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a reply to: Noinden

It appears that you are dodging his request to focus on one paper... Pick one stop being a coward...
Your efforts to deny his request by constantly harassing and bashing his education are a clearly a fear you have in accomadating him...
What kind of intelligence is this?
You disliked my post accusing you of inflating your position and education and wasted no time alerting...
Lucky for you my humor is a little harsh...

I have yet to see even close to evidence to refute the impossibility for evolution to explain the advanced information and complexity of the molecular machinery which would have no function without any part...
What has been presented contrary to any belief or faith in having done so... Is rather delusional... what's more it's evident that the programming is inherent in the simplest of cells and would have had to have always been so for said cells to ever even been able to begin the entire process of evolution by ever surviving long enough to ever begin to do so...
After all is it not evolutionists who always proclaim...
"It's takes a very very long time"

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posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 12:36 AM
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After all is it not evolutionists who always proclaim...

I don't know what an evolutionist is but...
www.inverse.com...



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 12:37 AM
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a reply to: Phage

That's some interesting hybridization...
What's it have to do with evolution?



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 12:40 AM
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a reply to: 5StarOracle

It's not a hybrid. It's a different species. Genetically distinct.

Or is your definition of the word different?

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posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: Phage

It's a bird who didn't go home stayed and mated with local birds and created a hybrid offshoot...
That's like saying 2 purebred dogs don't create a new hybrid breed...
Dog + dog =dog
Bird + bird=bird
I'm genetically different from you and everyone else...
Are we not all human?
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posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 12:45 AM
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a reply to: 5StarOracle

Oh. Sorry.
I forgot that thing about "kinds." I guess species don't count.


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posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 12:49 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Not for me they don't...Not when it's clearly hybridization anyway...
That's not evolution...
The genetic capability to reproduce said hybrid obviously already exists...

That's intelligent design...

Damn good way to insure we always have dogs and birds if you ask me...
And or new ones just think that genetic possibility is endless for them that will mean hybridization forever essentially...
But then again a dog and bird will never be able to pro create...
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posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 12:52 AM
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Not for me

What a surprise.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 12:55 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Don't belittle me you know what I'm saying...



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 12:58 AM
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a reply to: 5StarOracle

I do indeed.

You are saying that you reject anything that does not conform with your interpretation of the paradigm presented by your religion.

Why do you do that? What is it about your religion that makes you think it excludes the reality of change?


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posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 12:59 AM
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a reply to: Phage

You got a star for That?

Must be a purple striped cat who lives in a tree lurking in the shadows...



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 01:01 AM
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a reply to: 5StarOracle

With a grin



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 01:03 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Hey when 2 birds or dogs make something that's not birds or dogs I'll be a believer?
Why did you bring my faith into this?
Why do you do That?
Does my faith make me a fool?
Does my faith change the facts that genetically speaking new species due to hybridization are only capable because of predetermined genetic ability to do so?
That's design...
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posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 01:03 AM
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originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Phage

You got a star for That?

Must be a purple striped cat who lives in a tree lurking in the shadows...


shhh... im a bunny




posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 01:04 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

Good evening



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 01:04 AM
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a reply to: 5StarOracle

No. Faith doesn't make you a fool.

But you didn't answer my question.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 01:10 AM
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a reply to: Phage

My religion does not exclude change?
My God came to cause a different kind of evolution a spiritual and moral one...
Things also change...This is apparent to even this dumb guy...
However genetically speaking there are pathways for allowable change and there are also brick walls to prevent the possibility...



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 01:11 AM
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However genetically speaking there are pathways for allowable change and there are also brick walls to prevent the possibility...

Your ellipses implies more.
What brick walls does DNA present?



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 01:11 AM
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originally posted by: dusty1
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Is it possible that this is a case of epigenetics, that a silenced gene was there the whole time and something triggered it to turn on, so that it could use citrate as a food source in an oxygenated environment?


Since the topic above touches on the topic below:


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