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originally posted by: whereislogic
Really, that's the arg. ad hominem you wanna go with? He doesn't believe in evolution? That might work amongst fans of evolutionary philosophies who will burn anyone who doesn't want to jump on their bandwagon at the stake of public opinion but for me it only provides more reasons for what I mentioned before:
I think someone who is a professor of neurosurgery, working and teaching at a medical school, does brain research and performed over 4000 brain operations is quite capable and qualified for speaking on the subject of whether "evolutionary biology" is important to modern medicine or not, using Michael Egnor's terminology in for example his conclusion:
But it's not like he's the only one or that those making money on evolutionary philosophies promoted and marketed as "evolutionary biology" or "evolutionary theory" aren't acknowledging the same thing in other words with their unreasonable bias still shining through in the way they say things about this or related subjects...
May the Morrigan feast on your liver
Truth is subjective. It is based on human judgment.
Gabh Transna Ort Fhéin
You don't understand my faith if you've taken offense (which you did) at that statment in Irish.
you are not the expert at things esoteric either.
originally posted by: kennyb72
a reply to: Noinden
Neighbour, you seem to be having the mental blocks. I'm an occultist and a Scientist.
You however are just throwing some pop words around, and trying to seem as if you are an expert in these things.
So no matter how much you try to make it about me. The fact remains, you do not understand that ID, and CI are not things. They are pseudosciences.
I have done more than "quick one liners" to debunk you. You did not address those points, hence I will not engage in depth.
I just see ego, and hard earned ego at that, I won't bother to communicate with you again unless YOU do some research.
At least we will be on the same page . You may be an occultist but you know nothing about esoterics and yes compared to your knowledge of it, I am an expert.
Knowledge always goes from general to specific, you are very good with specifics, its just that your general is incorrect.
originally posted by: kennyb72
a reply to: Noinden
Without studying your religion (I have enough fictions to contend with) I think I can safely say that it bears the hall mark of all religions, It is watered down ancient knowledge, philosophies and ritual. All of which originated from the same source. There is only ONE reality of life and if you devoted the time to study it you will see perfectly how your occult beliefs fit into that framework and more importantly why.
yes compared to your knowledge of it, I am an expert.
You can not thus make claims to my religions validity. Not honestly.
SIEGEL: At the heart of your book and your conversion, I guess, is the growth in recent decades of an understanding of convergence as a principle in evolution. Can you define convergence for us?
LOSOS: Well, convergent evolution is when two species independently evolve to be similar.
SIEGEL: And the best example that you give that I can recall is the remains of an aquatic dinosaur, a dolphin and a shark. They all developed dorsal fins, flippers, sleek bodies, but they didn't all develop from the same set of accidents that were happening randomly.
LOSOS: That's absolutely true. They evolved from three very different ancestors, and yet they ended up looking almost identical. They're all streamlined animals with a powerful tail for propulsion, two flippers for steering and a dorsal fin for stability. So the animals, if you saw one, you might - people mistake sharks for dolphins and the other way around. And so they have convergently evolved to be very similar. Now, the reason they've done that is that they have evolved a body form that is very optimally designed for moving quickly through water. And so in fact, if engineers were designing an animal to do that, that's pretty much the body shape they would pick.
SIEGEL: So the idea of convergent evolution is that common environmental factors would drive evolutionary change in some common directions. It's not all haphazard and accidental in that sense.
LOSOS: Yes, exactly. Convergent evolution most commonly occurs when species adapt to the same environmental circumstance in the same way.
SIEGEL: That's amazing. So in effect, biologists at the University of British Columbia are creating evolution.
LOSOS: Yes. Yes. That's exactly it. To my mind, this is the most exciting advance in evolutionary biology - perhaps one of the most exciting advances in all of science - in the last few years, the realization that evolutionary change can occur not only very rapidly, but so rapidly that you can actually do experiments and expect to see an outcome in three to four years. This is something that Darwin got completely wrong.
I mean, Darwin was right about so many things. It is amazing. But he was completely wrong on the pace of evolution. He thought that evolution occurred so glacially slowly that it would take thousands of years to be able to detect it at all. Well, now that we know that evolution can occur very quickly, we can actually go out and do experiments in nature to test our ideas. And some of the experiments going on now are just extraordinary and providing incredible insight about the evolutionary process.
Your comments about my gods are a dodge. I don't summon my Gods. I invite them in. They are beings, they are real. Prove me wrong.