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Possible Genocide Occurring in Myanmar

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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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(CNN)Myanmar is facing growing condemnation from the Muslim world over its failure to halt the violence directed toward the minority Rohingya ethnic group, amid protests across the globe.

So far, an estimated 123,600 Rohingya have fled to neighboring Bangladesh to escape escalating violence in their native Rakhine State, according to a United Nations official in Bangladesh.

Leaders of countries with majority Muslim populations including Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh and Pakistan have led efforts to increase pressure on the Myanmar government.

Malaysia's foreign minister summoned Myanmar's ambassador to express its concern, according to state-run Bernama news, and Indonesian Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi held talks Monday with Aung San Suu Kyi, the de facto leader of Myanmar. Marsudi was due to meet with her counterpart in the Bangladeshi capital Dhaka on Tuesday.

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While the Western world worries about things such as North Korea and Irma it would appear that a humanitarian crisis is emerging a world away in Myanmar (aka Burma). In a small region of the country called Rakhine the ethnic group known as the Rohingya are fleeing en masse into Bangladesh to escape an ongoing military operation. Estimates state that at least 15,000 refugees are pouring over the border every day.

The current violence started on August 25th when a group of Rohingya militants killed 12 Burmese security officers. The tensions however go farther back than that. The Rohingya represent a Muslim minority in Myanmar. They are denied citizenship by the Burmese government who claim they belong to Bangladesh while Bangladesh claim they are Burmese. This has led to them being identified as one of the most persecuted groups in the world.

A similar military crackdown took place last year which also saw thousands of Rohingya fleeing in to Bangladesh. The eyewitness reports from this crackdown state that the military took part in wanton destruction, severe beatings, murder, and rape. It is believed that the attack on August 25th were a reaction to this event.

Since then, the reports coming from the refugees have been horrific. There have been claims that whole villages have been burnt to the ground. A claim supported by satellite imagery. Furthermore there have been reports of mass murder which include such sickening acts as the beheading of children. If we go with the reports of the refugees I have seen estimates place the death toll at over 3,000.

On the other hand the military claims that only 400 people have been killed as a result of this action. All of them terrorists. They also claim that the Rohingya were responsible for burning their own villages down.

So far de-facto leader of Myanmar and Nobel peace laureate Aung San Suu Kyi has said nothing about the violence. In fact since being elected she has done nothing to ease the laws that specifically target the Rohingya. A move that seemingly flies in the face of her push for Democracy in Burma during the 80s and 90s which culminated in her winning the country's first free election in 15 years.

This is still a developing story. Unfortunately it only looks like things are going to get worse before they get better. I just figured I'd share this with ATS since it seems to have flown under the radar.
edit on 9/5/2017 by Xcalibur254 because: (no reason given)

edit on Tue Sep 5 2017 by DontTreadOnMe because: trimmed overly long quote IMPORTANT: Using Content From Other Websites on ATS




posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Burma's change to democracy is only a window dressing.

Not only do they still persecute the Rohingya, but also support North Korea despite the new government promising not to do it.
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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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Which was started when the rohingya decided it was a good idea to attack police stations and military outposts in myanmar .
Which led to them fleeing when the police and military in myanmar cracked down on them after the attacks . Which gets left out of the story the media telling the world .
Been follow events since it started .



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: VengefulGhost

Every article I've read states right out in the open that this started with the events of August 25th. But those events certainly don't exist in a vacuum. The Rohingya have been persecuted for years. It's only natural for them to fight back at some point. And even then it does not justify the actions the military are taking against innocent people if the refugees are to be believed.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 10:11 AM
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How many countries in the so called Muslim world will offer to take these refugees? Or will they just wait for that mad German hag to order Europe to let them all in.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

So its religious persecution and cultural, ethnic cleansing of some minority?



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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What is it lately with Nobel Prize winners being so "good at killing".

There is never a reason for a pogrom (which is what Myanmar is carrying out). If terrorists attacked, the military should retaliate against terrorists. Not use it as an excuse to go after a population bloc.

Wholesale slaughter of the indigenous Muslims, makes the government no better than a mirror image of ISIS.

Nothing will ever be as destructive to a nation as the military being "given it's head". Soldiers tend to act out of retaliation and in this lies the ultimate opportunity for inhumanity.

A Muslim nation must be found to accept these refugees - not a Western nation, as forced assimilation will only cause more strife in time.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

More or less. Myanmar has never accepted the Rohingya has citizens of the country and as such are not afforded the same rights as other. Furthermore, there are laws the specifically target the Rohingya. However, it seems like only the past few years that the military has ramped up the violence.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: intrptr

More or less. Myanmar has never accepted the Rohingya has citizens of the country and as such are not afforded the same rights as other. Furthermore, there are laws the specifically target the Rohingya. However, it seems like only the past few years that the military has ramped up the violence.

I see. But they don't have any natural resources so we'll let them carry on.

Rememebr Rawanda? Even though Bill Clinton condemned the slaughter, the genocide of 8oo,ooo minorities continued for three months.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 10:52 AM
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NO, THEY CAN'T COME HERE!!



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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Guess who is giving them the Weapons to wage the warfare? Lovely little country in the Mid East they say Is Real.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: starviego
NO, THEY CAN'T COME HERE!!



I live near fort wayne indiana and we have 6000 living there already.

munchies.vice.com...



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

My aunt just left Myanmar before this clusterfudge took place, I will try to get her opinion but this is my opinion.

This is just another case of 'he said she said' BS and will only escalate.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: VengefulGhost
Which was started when the rohingya decided it was a good idea to attack police stations and military outposts in myanmar .
Which led to them fleeing when the police and military in myanmar cracked down on them after the attacks . Which gets left out of the story the media telling the world .
Been follow events since it started .



They are literally fighting muslim extremist terrorists that are trying to forcefully convert buddhists to sharia law. Yes, non-combatants get caught up in the mess and I feel for them, but this is not as the media is portraying.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: pirhanna

And you have proof to support that claim?

Because what I see is a long persecuted community whose end of the stick keeps getting shorter and shorter. Once the military decided to get violent (horrifically so) thru had no choice but to stand up to their oppressor.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 01:03 PM
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A little history lesson?
en.wikipedia.org...

Lets build up another scenario.

China is changed into a theological spiritually dualistic (us vs them dogma) state that discriminates against all who are not Chinese.

China take over the western half of US and populate it with 20% Chinese while genocide a large part of the US citizens. China make a peace deal with US where US can keep all it's land.

The 20% Chinese are making babies like crazy to change demographics and in the end are 60% in the western region. Chinese separatist movements form and demand that the western part of US should be Chinese.

Would you allow the Chinese to stay in the western part of US or push them out to save the 40% US citizens?

As long as the Muslims are not reforming towards non duality these duality (us vs them) karma explosions will happen. To gain any moral ground at all Rohingya have to become a cure instead of a cancer to the people around them.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Myamar frames it as an illegal immigrant issue dating from British Rule of India. It seems to be a long standing unresolved issue. Hate to sound callous but we have much bigger issues to deal with. The UN can handle it, right? Pretty messed up situation Like most disputes.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: pirhanna

And you have proof to support that claim?

Because what I see is a long persecuted community whose end of the stick keeps getting shorter and shorter. Once the military decided to get violent (horrifically so) thru had no choice but to stand up to their oppressor.


Nobody is ever the bad guy.......


Here:
Link to Rohingya Rebellion



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

I have been following the humanitarian crisis/genocide taking place in Myanmar for a few weeks now. What is happening there is another disgusting example of how horrid certain regimes and governments can be — especially when they have the support of other governments, such as Israel and the USA, who are selfishly condoning and supporting the evil taking place for their own geopolitical and economic reasons.


The violence directed at Myanmar’s Rohingya minority by the country’s regime has intensified. United Nations data show that about 60,000 members of the minority group have recently fled Myanmar’s Rahine state, driven out by the increasing violence and the burning of their villages, information that has been confirmed by satellite images. But none of this has led to a change in the policy of the Israeli Defense Ministry, which is refusing to halt weapons sales to the regime in Myanmar, the southeast Asian country formerly known as Burma.


The Israeli centred news media site, Haaretz, goes onto highlight the Israeli Defence Ministry's support of Myanmar's brutality throughout the article.

www.haaretz.com...


Israel’s High Court of Justice is scheduled to hear, in late September, a petition from human rights activists against the continued arms sales to Myanmar.

In a preliminary response issued in March, the Defense Ministry argued that the court has no standing in the matter, which it called “clearly diplomatic.”

On June 5, in answer to a parliamentary question by Knesset member Tamar Zandberg on weapons sales to Myanmar, Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman said that Israel “subordinates [itself] to the entire enlightened world, that is the Western states, and first of all the United States, the largest arms exporter. We subordinate ourselves to them and maintain the same policy.”


In other words: Israel is acting as the middle-man on behalf of the USA. The USA/CIA are playing a huge role in *the humanitarian crisis* currently taking place in Myanmar. What's new...?

Center For Strategic & International Studies: 'Armed Forces and Democratization in Myanmar: Why the U.S. Military Should Engage the Tatmadaw' - dated September 13, 2016

www.csis.org...


ETA: a reply to: pirhanna






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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: pavil

How many people left today do you think fought in the original insurgency? That ended in 1961. 1962 saw the start of the Burmese government stripping Rohingya of their rights.

How many people do you think opposing the government today are simply doing so because they are oppressed? The sins of the past do not excuse the modern government beheading children. Hell, the sins of today do not excuse such barbaric acts.

Remember, it is not the Rohingya that are describing this situation as "ethnic cleansing" and "crimes against humanity." Those are the words of independent observers. It doesn't matter what has gone down in the past. Nothing justifies genocide.







 
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