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I'm not Confused by the Left at All

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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:58 PM
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It all makes sense when one realizes their true intention: to completely destroy traditional western civilization and replace it with centralized global socialism.

They have to tear it down to rebuild it from scratch.

This is why they are teaching kindergartners to question their gender.

This is why they spit on Christianity and hold Islam up on a safe-space pedestal.

This is why Black Lives Matter but unborn ones are harvested for research parts.

This is why they scream "it's for the children!" while throwing pornography in any place kids can see it.

The only way any of it makes any sense is when you understand they have no interest in changing the system.

They seek to destroy it.




posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:08 PM
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I think maybe you're right about a small percentage, I think the rest don't know what they're doing



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:17 PM
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nice strawmen, planning a harvest festival?



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:19 PM
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a reply to: NthOther

Here's what the left stands for from FDR himself:



An old English judge once said: 'Necessitous men are not free men.' Liberty requires opportunity to make a living - a living decent according to the standard of the time, a living which gives man not only enough to live by, but something to live for.

For too many of us the political equality we once had won was meaningless in the face of economic inequality. A small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete control over other people's property, other people's money, other people's labor - other people's lives. For too many of us life was no longer free; liberty no longer real; men could no longer follow the pursuit of happiness.

Against economic tyranny such as this, the American citizen could appeal only to the organized power of government.


Speech before the 1936 Democratic National convention. The left is not Republican Lite as we have been conditioned to believe by the propaganda.

Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. If you think otherwise you are delusional.

I think at this point corporations ARE the government. The CEOs control the lobbyists. And the Lobbyists control the politicians with campaign financing. The lobbyists force the politicians to pass legislation to create cartels and monopolies in exchange for campaign financing. There's a real reason why wealth inequality is at all time high. How bad can taxes be if every year the rich get richer and richer and the middle class wage gets pushed further into a poverty wage!

Lobbyists define our domestic policy. The Council of Foreign Relations, that is Israel, defines our foreign policy. There IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OBAMA AND TRUMP FOREIGN POLICY. It is exactly the same and continuation of GWB foreign policy.

Money talks, everything you post is BS!


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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:20 PM
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originally posted by: NthOther
It all makes sense when one realizes their true intention: to completely destroy traditional western civilization and replace it with centralized global socialism.

They have to tear it down to rebuild it from scratch.

This is why they are teaching kindergartners to question their gender.

This is why they spit on Christianity and hold Islam up on a safe-space pedestal.

This is why Black Lives Matter but unborn ones are harvested for research parts.

This is why they scream "it's for the children!" while throwing pornography in any place kids can see it.

The only way any of it makes any sense is when you understand they have no interest in changing the system.

They seek to destroy it.


There is no other answer.

They don't like how they ended up.

They are unwilling to work their way into a better life.

So, they want it destroyed.

Reminds me of the unstable person who flips over the board game,

Cause losing is too much for there small brain to handle.


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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:24 PM
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a reply to: whyamIhere

We on the left do not want it destroyed this country. The CEOs will do it themselves by devaluing the currency. Marx said laissez faire capitialism is always followed by communism because unfettered greed would result in a government's currency collapse. Once the currency collapses people in bread lines will DEMAND more government not less! See you in the breadlines comrades!!!


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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: NthOther

Western civilization traces its roots back to Western Europe and the Western Mediterranean. It is linked to the Roman Empire and with Medieval Western Christendom which emerged from the Middle Ages to experience such transformative episodes as the Renaissance, the Reformation, the Enlightenment, the Industrial Revolution, scientific revolution, and the development of liberal democracy.
History of Western civilization

I like liberal democracy. I guess that makes me a status quo sort.

I like state funded public education. I don't mind paying taxes. Public roads and bridges beat the heck out of toll roads and bridges. I like NOAA, and National Weather Bureau, and EPA and OSHA and building regulations. I like public lands and parks and forests and libraries. I would like these things to remain public rather than being privatized or gutted into non-functionality.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:28 PM
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What is, "traditional western civilization", exactly? The US wasn't founded on Christianity. It's so often termed incorrectly as being formed fully on western conservative values.


This is why they are teaching kindergartners to question their gender.

Or are they trying to stop children from bullying/ being bullied?



This is why they spit on Christianity and hold Islam up on a safe-space pedestal.

Christianity often spits on Islam, maybe it's "coexist": attempting to protect all religious preferences despite Christianity /Christians only favoring themselves.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:30 PM
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a reply to: pthena

The left is much different than liberals



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: NthOther

Sounds like an Alex Jones fan all geezed up on "Caveman true Paleo Formula" and not that wimpy "strawberry" flavor either....


www.infowarsshop.com...


How about all those gay frogs? Now there's something to watch out for....



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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:36 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: NthOther

Sounds like an Alex Jones fan all geezed up on "Caveman true Paleo Formula"

How about all those gay frogs? Now there's something to watch out for....



This thread needs some:



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:43 PM
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"The left" is no longer liberal by any stretch of the imagination. They no longer defend liberty.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:53 PM
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a reply to: InterstellarSloth


The left is much different than liberals

Now I'm confused.

I'm looking at Wikipedia and it seems 'the Left' has been defined differently at different times and in different countries. Example: The Left was Republican when contrasted to Royalists (like French Revolution).



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:54 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

As if the right is truly "conservative". American adventurism is out of control.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: pthena

google "classical liberalism wiki" and read it.

The true war against the aristocracy has never changed since the inception of this country no matter how much the propaganda distorts our language.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:05 AM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

When I was taking human sexuality class in college, the professor had a gay man as a guest speaker. He said, "Every species exhibits homosexual behavior. The more complex the species, the greater the frequency." He said homosexuality occurs in the human species at a rate of 2%. He also said he knew he was born different. When he looked at naked women he would not get an erection. He said he believed he was "wired differently."

Now I have no way of know if this homosexual man was telling truth of making this up. But if it is true, then being a homosexual is not a choice but something you are determined to be by God.

I do know one thing though. It's funny how the people who are most outspoken against homosexuality turn out to be one in the end!


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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:08 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

As if the right is truly "conservative". American adventurism is out of control.


Liberalism is now a conservative position.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:10 AM
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a reply to: NthOther



It all makes sense when one realizes their true intention: to completely destroy traditional western civilization and replace it with centralized global socialism.

So what's "traditional western civilization"? Feudalism? Serfdom & royalty? Oligarchies & plutocracies? Who would want to go back to that? Part of the reason democracy and representative democracy rose to such prominence in the West is because people were tired of "traditional western civilization", which required complete obedience to the Church and the crown. Socialism does the same thing on an economic level by empowering the worker citizens & reducing the power of the oligarchs & powerbrokers.

Besides, modern socialism and communism were created by Westerners (Marx and Engels) and Western countries have embraced socialist programs since the Great Depression (and longer for other countries). Social Security, Medicare, welfare programs, labor rights, and a lot of the "New Deal" programs are socialist policies, and people from all sides of the political spectrum enjoy them. For most people alive today, socialist programs are part of traditional western life.



This is why they spit on Christianity and hold Islam up on a safe-space pedestal.

1. "Western" countries are almost exclusively Christian majority countries. This includes people on the Left.

2. They're not "spitting on Christianity". They're making sure that we don't live in a theocracy because they actually believe in things like secularism & freedom of religion. All citizens should be treated equally, whether we are Muslims, Hindus, Jewish, Buddhists, Sikhs, atheists, agnostics, animists, Satanists, spaghetti monster followers, or whatever.

3. In no way does the Left hold Islam up on a "safe space" pedestal. I've probably gotten into just as many arguments/fierce debates with people on the Left about Islam as I have people on the Right. The major difference is that I get way more outright hostility from the right, to the point where many of them simply don't even want Muslims here. And if anyone doesn't agree with that "you're with us or against us" mindset, they're deemed as a sympathizer/apologist/whatever.

But like I mentioned in number 2, at least many people on the Left believe in freedom of religion. That doesn't mean they agree with the principles of every religion and they certainly don't put us on a pedestal. You never listened to Bill Maher, Richard Dawkins and their anti-religion followers?

4. As an outsider, I'd say that if anyone is "spitting on Christianity", it's the self-proclaimed Christians here. I live in a country where divorces are legal, prostitution is legal in some States, gambling is legal, intoxication is legal, suicide is common, workers aren't paid at the end of every day (Deuteronomy 24:14-15), etc. All of those are against biblical teachings.

We have an obesity crisis (both GLUTTONY & SLOTH). Premarital sex & affairs are perfectly legal, "pornstars" & sexualized celebs are famous, & virgins are literally shamed as being lame/weak/meek (LUST). Cash is king here & people who accumulate vast amount of resources are celebrated (GREED). We have ridiculously high violence rates, and literally have a war based economy, a punishment based judicial system, and a perpetual war machine where fighters/soldiers/generals are celebrated (WRATH). Do I even need to go into pride and envy?

I doubt many people here even know what the 7 Virtues are without having to look them up. So who's really spitting on Christianity?


This is why Black Lives Matter but unborn ones are harvested for research parts.

BLM is just the latest in a series of movements meant to get the judicial system and law enforcement to treat us the same way they treat other demographics. Right before BLM was started, there were the "I Can't Breathe" and the "Hand's Up, Don't Shoot" movement. Nobody even remembers them though. The only reason BLM has gained so much attention is because the name can be interpreted in a controversial way. If it were named "Black Lives Matter, Too", it would be just as forgotten as the "Am I Not A Man And A Brother?" movement (go ahead & google it since I'm pretty sure most people here don't remember it, either).

Oh & are you implying that right wingers don't support or have abortions? You should probably check the stats before assuming that the public narratives match the reality.

Public Opinion on Abortion

On abortion, persistent divides between – and within – the two parties



The only way any of it makes any sense is when you understand they have no interest in changing the system. They seek to destroy it.

1. Assuming you were correct, destroying something would still be changing it. Durr.


2. Isn't it the Right that always claims govt is the problem, constantly tries to shut down the govt, and brags about wanting to shut down various departments and agencies in the system? You know, like the EPA, BLM (Bureau of Land Management), Dept of Education, the various welfare related programs, etc? If you think the supposedly "big government" Left that supposedly always wants to expand govt is actually trying to destroy the system, then what do you think of the people who always claim they want small govt or no govt at all? What kind of system are you even talking about?
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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:14 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Every expansion of liberty in the US in modern times resulted from what could only reasonable be deemed a left-wing, liberal progressive movement, up to and including same sex marriage.

What the typical conservative has viewed time and time again as the "destruction of traditional Western values" has been the expansion of liberty. I'll cite examples if you'd like. That is not to say that there aren't illiberal extremists on the Left and that the dominant "Left" party doesn't have some illiberal platform positions but compared to the Right?



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:14 AM
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I'm pretty much convinced our government is controlled by foreign corporations and not the citizens here at home. Everything went to bad with Edward Bernays:



We do not have a representative democracy because the people in power simply do not believe in it. I'm not sure we have a Republic either. I think the people with the most money have the most power. That's my theory.



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