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Im confused by the Lefts Beliefs

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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:22 PM
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Let's agree on what "Left" means first.

Anyone?




posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Let's agree on what "Left" means first.

Anyone?
You.



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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:37 PM
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I think the biggest issue is what topics the left has "decided" to focus on.

As someone who is on the left, but largely removed from the current popular "issues," I can't find much of anything to identify with. Beyond that, I find the actions and attitudes deeply concerning and completely at odds with the words used. That dissonance is troublesome on so many levels.

I may be on the left, and not subscribe to.. any of the things posted in the OP, but I can see where you are coming from and it concerns me too.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: proteus33

look at all the crap that the op is implying about those who he sees as left, whoever they may be...
heck, maybe in his eyes, I am left.... in which case, nothing that I read in his op is in fact even remotely factual...

the left leaners would be just as factual claiming that the right are all a bunch of white separatist nazis, religious fanatics who are threatening to wage civil war if any attempt to impeach trump is made.


it really does get kind of old and quite frankly, I've noticed there's been more and more missing from these forums of late... probably decided about the same thing I have... ATS is a waste of time!!!



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: Xianb

You appear very confused in general.

The OP is a laundry list of fallacy.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 01:34 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Let's agree on what "Left" means first.

Anyone?


To varying degrees anyone that is not related to Donald Trump.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: Xianb
So much ignorance in one post. Let's pick a few shall we?


The LEFT loves Muslims but is offended by the word "God".

Wanting to keep laws based on religious dogma from being passed isn't hating God it's keeping in line with what the founders wanted for this country. You do want to follow the Constitution don't you?


The LEFT says Trump has no Empathy even while donating 1million from his own Bank Account to Harvey Victims.

Let us know when he actually does it. It's been almost a week and this "billionaire" still hasn't coughed up a mere million.


The Left believes in Abortion but hates the 2nd Amendment.

They don't hate the second if they did then why did Obama repeal more gun laws than Bush?
Obama Signed More Repeals of Federal Gun Policies Than Bush


Every time a Mass shooting happens The LEFT blames the NRA not the Gunmen/man.

They do blame the gunman they just point out how the NRA cashes in on the incident.


The LEFT hates War and calls the Right Warmongers even though they started multiple Civil Wars in various Muslim Majority Nations behind the scenes.

They sure did because they just like the right sold out to wall street. They just did it first and the right is just pissed off about it.


How can the Left support the LGBTQ community but at the same time support Communism,Marxism, Socialism etc., those people are usually the 1st to be killed in those societies.

So no one dies in a fascist society? Also the founders were commies? There is a little thing called the Constitution that says what our laws are allowed to do if you don't like those guidelines when then tough noogies.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: Xianb

What a load of absolute twaddle. You really mustn't have anything better to do with your life than make up nonsense, cause trouble and continue the "Divide and Conquer" strategy.




posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Let's agree on what "Left" means first.

Anyone?


To varying degrees anyone that is not related to Donald Trump.

Trump and Trumpkins are related?



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: liejunkie01
I am confused by everyone's "beliefs".

What in the hell happened to this country?

What in the hell is wrong with people?

This whole way of thinking on both/all sides along with all of the labeling is just plain absurd and rediculous.

Ignorance is leading the way, whether it is left, right, straight, or any other type of label.

So please tell me, what does this make me?

Which side of the broken a$$ fence do I reside on because to be quite frank, it is all absolutely friggin silly.

Everyone is so worried that they will be left out and that their opinion will not be heard that ignorance is gathering in droves and the ignorance is not leaving any room for compromise.

The country basically has turned into give me your votes please and they do it through media now,institutions,schools,social media and etc..Because no boundaries on social media.
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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Let's agree on what "Left" means first.

Anyone?


To varying degrees anyone that is not related to Donald Trump.

Trump and Trumpkins are related?

They are vicariously related to Trump.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 02:29 PM
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Just a sampling..


originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT loves Muslims but is offended by the word "God".


The "LEFT" loves freedom of religion and separation of Church and State.
The "LEFT" loves the constitution and the principles of our founders. The "RIGHT' pretends to care about the same.

Not love Muslims..Not offended by the word "God"..

No religion in government...No Sharia or Christian Cannon Law..
Everybody can worship how they choose...God, Allah or the Spaghetti Monster.



The LEFT loves ALL Immigrants but questions Melania Trump's Status.



Another stupid statement. The LEFT understands that virtually the whole country is immigrants and the children of immigrants.


As for "Melania", the "LEFT" simply points out that those living in glass white houses should not throw stones.

She came here illegally and bra size and a willingness to date Donald Trump are not qualifications for legal status.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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Well, we're basically dealing with a glorified football game here. There is no real rhyme or reason. People have their favorite team and that's all they want to know or care about.

In the end you will find that very little ever actually changes no matter who "wins". IOW, the ball might change hands from time to time but the actual agenda remains suspiciously the same.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

They have no answers to his questions either. Just getting upset from the words he typed. Sad really.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: Crumbles

I'm sorry, but I really didn't see that many that were worthy of a reply...
some of them, just him bringing them up seems to show alot of hypocrisy within the right!!!



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: Crumbles
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

They have no answers to his questions either. Just getting upset from the words he typed. Sad really.

I guess you haven't read the thread.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 03:52 PM
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maybe you should educate yourself, its pretty easy to understand



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: Xianb

Is the division between left and right , Americans v Americans , making America great again ?

Divide and conquer.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: Xianb

I can understand why you are confused. Much of what you listed is either incorrect, lack complete context or are nothing more than a straw man fallacy.

What you posted is not very damning of the Left. It's damning to yourself, because it shows the nonsense you actually believe.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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Maybe you don't understand because you're lumping together a spectrum of different ideologies and beliefs and are slapping the 'left' label on it because to you --- and others like you --- the world is simply seen as black-and-white, Am/FM, Coke/Pepsi. Red/Blue, etc. 'cause it hurts your head too much to try and understand reality.



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