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Im confused by the Lefts Beliefs

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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

I just saw it as a political Gish Gallop and treated it as such. There is no point in addressing each of those strawmans individually. He didn't have to think hard to strawman the left, but you have to expend a lot of effort correcting him when he obviously won't care about being correct. Not worth it.
edit on 5-9-2017 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Xianb


The LEFT loves Muslims but is offended by the word "God".


I'd hardly say that I speak for the entire "Left" anymore than you do the "Right" but I imagine of the two of us, I'm at least in a better position to make generalizations about what the "Left believes."

It's not about "loving Muslims" any more or less than any other religious group. Mostly it's a rejection of the demagoguery of those on the far-right who seem hellbent on a religious war and on the domestic end, a reaction to Islamaphobia, which leads to hate crime, calls for the infringement of civil liberties of an entire religious group and foments an atmosphere of fear and distrust that makes people less likely to contact authorities about members of their community and young people (particularly) more susceptible to "radicalization."

As for being offended by the word "God?" Not at all. But I think it's interesting that you have taken concern over the separation of church state as anti-Christian and then paired it with this nonsense about "loving Muslims" as though we're all forced with a choice between Christianity and Islam?

I think your projection says a lot more about you and your programming than it does about anyone on the Left or what they believe. It sure seems that you view the world as a series of false dichotomies and so you assume that everyone else must also form their opinions in much the same way.


You actually think the far right is anywhere near as insane as the muslims are on GOD ISSUES?

Judgement day will arrive soon enough...but the Dark Angels will allow the muslims and other hordes to take it all down just for kicks...cause you want to see it so badly.

The hypocrisy in your own tortured minds is off the charts, i never thought the Christians could be out dumbassed in North America but now they are far smarter and more interesting in general than the de-evolving left.

Keep going for the chaos lefties, we got some fantastic rewards for your fake Jesus antics along with all who believe they are going to win.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:50 AM
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I didn't read your entire list, I don't like filling my mind with such inaccuracies, but this one caught my eye,


The LEFT hates tax cuts for the Rich but wants everything Free.


You can't be serious.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:52 AM
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Lol, a bunch of comically evil people all patting themselves on the back over how much better they are because *reasons* , and how foolish/silly it is that people would rail against injustice/prejudice/xenophobia/selfishness because... (honestly I'll never understand how you folks thing all those aforementioned things are good and righteous).

This post is like some weird circle jerk Oruboros of right wing thinking. Oh if only getting high off your own farts actually made you smarter.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Not worth it to correct him, no, since it would be a wasted effort. This much is evidenced by the fact that the individual was prepared to engage in spurious, repeated, and as the link you provided states, belt fed nonsense. However, for anyone reading this thread who is not familiar with the tactic, and has no current firm position on the matters pertaining to the content of the OP itself, it might have an effect on how they see the topics covered, and at least provides stout rebuttal, which is available for reading by any new members or lurkers.

That is the only reason I find it worth doing at all.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: ParasuvO

I am a Christian, and because I believe in Christ, I am of left wing opinions on the political spectrum.

Christian conservative is an oxymoron.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: dawnstar

According to the "right" if you didn't vote for Trump you voted for Hillary and support her.


That is a true fact, everyone here and everywhere else KNOWS that the left wanted Hillary and spent all day saying Hillary was a good woman who should lead while Trump is the reincarnation of Hitler.

And of course forgave the Bern for being robbed, scoffed at all conspiracies regarding anything because Trump hate is all you could see...AND STILL IS.

Most robotic control group ever...Westworld on steroids.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX
a reply to: Xianb

Thats one hell of a strawman.
the left is defined by the most radical progressives?
Well, I guess that means the right is also defined by the most radical alt-right stereotypes


You prove the point that left is thought controlled by the most radical progressives.

Your logic is identified by it..THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT..
Reactionary emotional brain reactions...no heart involved...




posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

True. The silent reader is always the 3rd party involved in these discussions, but I just get tired of correcting the same inaccuracies over and over again. Stars aren't worth the effort of arguing with people choosing to embrace the ignorance.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: ParasuvO

A great deal of people on the left, wanted Hillary to bugger off out of the race completely, from the get go, as it happens. They were not well publicised, because if they had been, it would have damaged the control mechanism being applied by the media, gone against the narrative.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:12 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Xianb

Keep repeating....

The Jews will not replace us, the Jews will not replace us, the Jews will not replace us....

That should make you feel better.


Nothing like a little racist conflationary trolling to start the day... LOL

Way to keep it classy olaru12!



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: ParasuvO

The only reason most on the left supported Hillary was because she was the only competent politician to choose from after the primaries. I didn't like Bernie being shafted by the DNC, but even if he wasn't he still wasn't going to get the votes to be nominated. He never polled well with minorities and that was what ultimately did him in during the primaries.

But I guess for you it is easier to derisively and arrogantly talk down to us so you don't have to bother understanding our position and claim victory.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
The hypocrisy runs deep. I don't even think the left knows what it believes anymore. Something something socialism, something something hatred, blah blah blah.


Maybe because the "left" in the US is a coalition of Americans (from the right, center and left) that want nothing to do with the far-right GOP party?


The left is no coalition, they hate and froth at anything they are told too...almost like an invisible God is whispering sweet nothings to them.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:15 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

The left is supremely full of fascism.

That is what is truly shameful.

A kind that you do not see in your picturebook Encyclopedia.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:16 AM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
The hypocrisy runs deep. I don't even think the left knows what it believes anymore. Something something socialism, something something hatred, blah blah blah.


Maybe because the "left" in the US is a coalition of Americans (from the right, center and left) that want nothing to do with the far-right GOP party?


The left is no coalition, they hate and froth at anything they are told too...almost like an invisible God is whispering sweet nothings to them.

The irony is strong in this post.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: ParasuvO

I will forgive you for choosing to lie, for abandoning truth this once.

But continue, and history will not forgive you, especially if your habitual nonsense, adds to the weight of the lies and propagandism which is already threatening the stability, peace and freedom of the people of the free world.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:23 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Xianb

That was the most simple minded, shallow, stereotyped OP made from pure bias I've ever read here.

The fact that is what you actually believe is accurate when talking about so many people based on an arbitrary and meaningless label as "The Left" is just sad. It's sad that a person can be that bigoted to so many people and so sure of it like that.

But then there are those that agree and actually think it was a great post and so on point too. It honestly doesn't seem possible that any intelligent adult could be that confused about such a large amount of people. But there it is.

Existentially Depressing.


...kinda like Trump supporters being broad brushed by some on the left, eh? To your point... the reason I said "some". I agree, that defining the entire left in the OP is a reach.

I have been privately told by multiple life long Democrats that "I don't like Trump... I would never vote for him... but the hysteria and behavior of many on the left, including some of my friends makes me sick. It is out of control. I won't reply to your Facebook posts in the affirmative because I just don't want me or my family to be the object of so much venom."

The sad thing is, the most rabid anti-trump folks are either doing someone else's bidding, or repeating something they heard from one of their left leaning darlings in the media. Talk about "low information voters".

It is stunning to me, how many folks are still caught up in the D/R theatrics virus. They still don't grok who, what and why is running the show.

Also to be fair... there is PLENTY not to like about Trump. I see him as the archetypal Trickster/Fool... his job is to disrupt. He has been brought into being by the unconscious of Americans because we needed a disrupter... and we got him.

The peril is in what is being disrupted... the entrenched power in DC and their paymasters around the globe. They will not go without a fight.

I think he NEEDS a general Kelly as COF... but it's unfortunate his bodyguard and confidant of 20 years is leaving.

There are folks in the corridors of power, who would rather start a world war, than be exposed. That's pathetic.
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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:45 AM
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For the sake of discussion... there are multiple contrivances in the OP... but hey, it's an ATS forum and a posting on politics, yo!

That said, there are MANY rock solid points of considerable dissonance mentioned, that many on the left can't seem to recognize as being in conflict.

These sorts of things on both the right and left are the nexus of nearly all our political discord in America, because there's something like a rabid political co-dependency in the body politic. Any kind of political extremism is rooted in ignorance.

By all appearances... Democrats at large, apparently have felt left out of being broad brushed as extremist and non-sensical... the way some right wing factions have in the past.

They have certainly gotten the job done... I've seen some crazy looniness over the years, much of it from the right. Many on the left have really out done themselves this time though... and it's not smaller factions like it usually is with right wingnuts. It's a HUGE faction of folk on the left whose hair is on fire and running around screaming "The sky is falling... the sky is falling!"

I suppose there's a silver lining... it's made most media unwatchable to me. There really is no down side to that. LOL



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
The hypocrisy runs deep. I don't even think the left knows what it believes anymore. Something something socialism, something something hatred, blah blah blah.


Maybe because the "left" in the US is a coalition of Americans (from the right, center and left) that want nothing to do with the far-right GOP party?


The left is no coalition, they hate and froth at anything they are told too...almost like an invisible God is whispering sweet nothings to them.



I could forgive them if it were space aliens doing the whispering.




posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: Xianb

Probably because you can't think beyond yourself. Just saying.



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