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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:32 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy


Jesus f christ. How old are you supposed to be ? I see you jump around from thread to thread and post trigger memes and whatnot.
A man of your age should know better. You are one of the older members here, aka. Fluffy bunny.
What does triggered even mean for you ? Is a person triggered just because he/she disagrees with something ?
You're old enough to be able to see past through all this partisan mud slinging yet you fall for it every time.


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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 12:57 AM
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Really?? Like those who believed that Obama was the president during Katerina, or a brither .
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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 01:08 AM
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a reply to: Xianb

Thats one hell of a strawman.
the left is defined by the most radical progressives?
Well, I guess that means the right is also defined by the most radical alt-right stereotypes



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 02:51 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Xianb

That was the most simple minded, shallow, stereotyped OP made from pure bias I've ever read here.

The fact that is what you actually believe is accurate when talking about so many people based on an arbitrary and meaningless label as "The Left" is just sad. It's sad that a person can be that bigoted to so many people and so sure of it like that.

But then there are those that agree and actually think it was a great post and so on point too. It honestly doesn't seem possible that any intelligent adult could be that confused about such a large amount of people. But there it is.

Existentially Depressing.


Yep
happily spewing fake news and parroting everythjng donnie instructs them to on twitter. The cult are so blind it fascinates me.

What exactly is "the left"? Because the cult seem hell bent on convincing themselves that all liberals = antifa.

Congratulations on perpetuating the stereotypes and division; as your master has instructed. Divide and distract is how Donnie operates.
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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 02:53 AM
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a reply to: Xianb



Triggered event coming in 3,2,1...
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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 03:38 AM
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originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT loves Muslims but is offended by the word "God".

The Left is offended by the word God being patronizing, not the word itself.


originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT loves ALL Immigrants but questions Melania Trump's Status.

You mean because she's Russian? I mostly don't even know what this means, but you're generalizing as your weapon so it's difficult to understand.

originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT says Trump has no Empathy even while donating 1million from his own Bank Account to Harvey Victims.

Can you provide a link to his charitable actions before this, and becoming President in Massive Spotlight? Can you then compare this to other philanthropists, and explain why 1 million is a lot compared to Trump's income? Is it because it had the word "Million" in it, that it's impressive to you? Because Gates donates like fifty percent sometimes.


originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT says Love Trumps Hate while at the same time supporting Antifa.

The Left supports Antifa? Do you know what Alienation means? You create your own enemies. The fact is Antifa is the last people that represent the Left, you only choose to express it like that to make the Left look worse. By your EXACT logic, the RIght supports Nazi's because of Chancellorsville. These kind of generalizations make you an INTERNET TERRORIST, because you're so wrong, but will push propaganda anyway for your side, and mostly utilize controversy and fear as your tactic of gaining support.


originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT hates the Rich but at the same time Soros has a Net Worth of 25.2 Billion.

It certainly isn't the Right that hates the Rich now is it. You "hate" no one right? Other than all the people you obviously hate and deny. This whole you getting to decide who "the left hates" is kind of sad. The left never hated the Rich, they are in support of equity. If you can't understand the difference, you don't deserve to be rich anyway.


originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT calls the Right Xenophobia for being suspicious of Syrian Refugees while at the same time has a unhealthy obsession/mass hysteric delusions with Russia.
The Right is Xenophobic, has nothing to do with Syria, the Right is against anyone that isn't American. This is why you are building a wall, this is why you hate Immigrants, this is why you think foreign business policy should only profit America, etc. Your nationalist behavior is why you are called Xenophobic, not specific examples of it alone. America is also especially a stupid place to be Xenophobic, but that's a different conversation.


originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT called Romney crazy for suggesting Russia was a threat and now says the Russian Influence on the 2016 Election is equal to the 911 Attacks.

Strawman. If you can put the most insane ideas in your opponents mouth for them, who cares what they really said. If true, it would be comparable in some ways, the main issue however is you are too ignorant to even separate what topics are worth hashing. This isn't one of them, and is generally a terrible analogy. In otherwords, you can't see past the stupidest people on the Left, you probably don't understand the whole left then for sure.


originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT calls the Right Bigots when they lose an argument, or elections.

Yep. /s And the Right calls everyone Libtard, I have proof, and generally have no respect for handicap people and the word 'retarded'. Neither do I tho, so..


originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT says Trump isnt unifying the Country while at the same time has a movement called "The Resistance".

This is actually pretty funny. Because your opinion of what unification probably is, not the resistance part.


originally posted by: Xianb
The Left believes in Abortion but hates the 2nd Amendment.

The second Amendment isn't what they hate, they hate automatic weapons. You strawman because you don't want to talk about real issues, so you change what the issue is entirely to make their side sound ill-founded. It's honestly not even automatic, as much as it lack of argument for high-capacity magazines. You maybe need 8 bullets to kill a bear if you're a terrible shot. 20+ round magazines are for killing people, not even an argument. Abortion has to do with personal rights, these comparisons are garbage.


originally posted by: Xianb
The Left says your Racist just for being White.

No, but you're probably racist for thinking this.



originally posted by: Xianb
Every time a Mass shooting happens The LEFT blames the NRA not the Gunmen/man.
The NRA advocates for ANY firearm to be legal, and NO CHECKS. The are critizing the rights the NRA advocates for, not specifically blaming them, that's ridiculous to even suggest. The idea they just "don't care" about the gunman is also pretty stupid.


originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT hates tax cuts for the Rich but wants everything Free. Free Healthcare, Free Education etc.,

Free is a really misappropriated word. You consider public infrastructure and programs paid for by taxes to be considered "Free"? It speaks volumes to how much little respect you must have for public property. Healthcare and Education are Rights that humans in general should have, I'd love to see you argue your way out of that nugget.


originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT Loves Free Speech and Expression and yell dictatorship if there Press Pases get revoked or TV appearences shutdown unless its them Wiretapping Reporters who they disagree with.

This is why Trump'rs DDoS'd Hillary Clinton today and shut her website down right? Because they're all about freedom of speech, and whatnot. (I know this arguement is generalizing, but I've just read like 10 of your bullship in a row that are generalizing.)

originally posted by: Xianb
The Left calls the KKK, Nazis, and Neo Nazis the far right yet have forgotten these groups were founded by them.

Wrong. Clearly you're into revisionist History.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 03:38 AM
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originally posted by: Xianb
The Left says the Right doesn't believe in Global Warming and yet approves a deal that doesn't punish the worlds biggest polluters.

So you do believe then?

originally posted by: Xianb
The Left calls America's Elections Sacred but at the same time are trying to overthrow the Duly Elected President with Impeachment

Ah, and how is that going again? Unless he's guilty, no issues right?

originally posted by: Xianb
The Left calls Trump a Bully for calling out people in the Media but had no problem with Obama calling out Hannity, Limbaugh etc.,

Limbaugh is fine with me tbh, I can't stand Tuccer or Alex.

originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT hates War and calls the Right Warmongers even though they started multiple Civil Wars in various Muslim Majority Nations behind the scenes.

Multiple Civil Wars? Wait what? Muslims Nations? I'm sure this isn't relevant to us.


originally posted by: Xianb
The Left brags about killing Osama Bin Laden but cant say Radical Islamic Terror.

Radical Islamic Terror. I guess the Right is just always wrong
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originally posted by: Xianb
The Left says saying Radical Islamic Terror is just a Political Talking Point but at the same time spouts White Supremacy every time some minor incident happens.

Wait, you litterally just said the Left CANT SAY that, but now it's a talking point? You also don't have to spout white supremecy, they do that enough on their own.


originally posted by: Xianb
How can the Left support the LGBTQ community but at the same time support Communism,Marxism, Socialism etc., those people are usually the 1st to be killed in those societies.

*facepalm* So your arguement is be conservative, or the Left will kill me, if I'm gay? *facepalm* Most hate crime murders specifically over being Gay are done by conservatives(Christians), and gay liberals STILL look past this and trust your dumbasses. What's especially sad is how often the murder is done by a group of people, and not just one sick minded individual. Essentially, reaffirmation is important to bigots, so they act in troops often. Just like how this place works.

Afterall, all these worthless comments wouldn't be worth anything without the slanted praise of peers.You only exist here to circle-jerk each other, not converse or expand your thoughts or anything actually significant. Just a place to rub, that's how most of you act and why you're intolerable. The hypocrisy of your arrogance, not just the arrogance alone, is reminiscent of the 666 beast in the bible to me.
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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 04:01 AM
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You need to watch the documentary on Mouse Utopia which will explain the LEFT perfectly. I know it might be mice but the same result they experienced is happening right now to the Human race.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 06:36 AM
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a reply to: Xianb

The world as seen with your eyes,your type fall prey to the media,all this hype about Russia ,rioting,when you view things in your own perspective,things like reality are confusing,your the type that probably think everyone in Calif drive drop tops,and sit by the pool



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 07:11 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

The left is actually a term to descibe anyone who isn't a dyed in the wool conservative..

Because ALL the media is against them....

All the scientists are against them..

It's a stupid narrative that shouldn't fool anyone.. it's sad it does..



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 07:18 AM
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originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT loves Muslims but is offended by the word "God".
The LEFT loves ALL Immigrants but questions Melania Trump's Status.
The LEFT says Trump has no Empathy even while donating 1million from his own Bank Account to Harvey Victims.
The LEFT says Love Trumps Hate while at the same time supporting Antifa.
The LEFT hates the Rich but at the same time Soros has a Net Worth of 25.2 Billion.
The LEFT calls the Right Xenophobia for being suspicious of Syrian Refugees while at the same time has a unhealthy obsession/mass hysteric delusions with Russia.
The LEFT called Romney crazy for suggesting Russia was a threat and now says the Russian Influence on the 2016 Election is equal to the 911 Attacks.
The LEFT calls the Right Bigots when they lose an argument, or elections.
The LEFT says Trump isnt unifying the Country while at the same time has a movement called "The Resistance".
The Left believes in Abortion but hates the 2nd Amendment.
The Left says your Racist just for being White.
Every time a Mass shooting happens The LEFT blames the NRA not the Gunmen/man.
The LEFT hates tax cuts for the Rich but wants everything Free. Free Healthcare, Free Education etc.,
The LEFT Loves Free Speech and Expression and yell dictatorship if there Press Pases get revoked or TV appearences shutdown unless its them Wiretapping Reporters who they disagree with.
The Left calls the KKK, Nazis, and Neo Nazis the far right yet have forgotten these groups were founded by them.
The Left says the Right doesn't believe in Global Warming and yet approves a deal that doesn't punish the worlds biggest polluters.
The Left calls America's Elections Sacred but at the same time are trying to overthrow the Duly Elected President with Impeachment
The Left calls Trump a Bully for calling out people in the Media but had no problem with Obama calling out Hannity, Limbaugh etc.,
The LEFT hates War and calls the Right Warmongers even though they started multiple Civil Wars in various Muslim Majority Nations behind the scenes.
The Left brags about killing Osama Bin Laden but cant say Radical Islamic Terror.
The Left says saying Radical Islamic Terror is just a Political Talking Point but at the same time spouts White Supremacy every time some minor incident happens.
How can the Left support the LGBTQ community but at the same time support Communism,Marxism, Socialism etc., those people are usually the 1st to be killed in those societies.



"The Left" is not one collective. They are individuals just like "The Right". So sick of people grouping everyone into sides. It literally accomplishes NOTHING. This is like me asking why are all On "The Right" Nazis because I saw a couple of alt right people on TV wearing Nazi insignias. It's dumb.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 07:55 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
The hypocrisy runs deep. I don't even think the left knows what it believes anymore. Something something socialism, something something hatred, blah blah blah.


Maybe because the "left" in the US is a coalition of Americans (from the right, center and left) that want nothing to do with the far-right GOP party?



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 07:57 AM
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originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT loves Muslims but is offended by the word "God".

No it isn't. I am politically left oriented, and a Christian. The left believes in religious freedom, and a secular society, which can accommodate all religions, without any one having primacy before the law, and where all are treated equally regardless of their religious beliefs. That is in stark contrast to the right, who want to put their radicalised version of Christianity at the forefront of their policy, and screw every other faith and person who holds it.


The LEFT loves ALL Immigrants but questions Melania Trump's Status.

And do you know why we question it? To highlight the problem with the anti-immigration stance that is the hallmark of a fascist ideology.


The LEFT says Trump has no Empathy even while donating 1million from his own Bank Account to Harvey Victims.

That is because his donation is a token gesture, made because he is too ideologically driven, when it comes to his reluctance with regard to freeing up money in the federal budget to actually make a decent and immediate impact on the situation. Also, if I had his money, I would be giving a damned sight more than five million dollars, given that any human being worth spitting on, leave alone worthy of respect, can live on a damned sight less than he has, without any limitation on comfort levels.


The LEFT says Love Trumps Hate while at the same time supporting Antifa.

I will guarantee to you now, without a shadow of a doubt, that the person who came up with that slogan is about as left wing as Margret Sodding Thatcher was. Let me be clear here... the common notion of the left, which includes pus spewing wounds upon humanity, such as Hillary Clinton and friends, is a notion which has been placed in the minds of the dull, by the very forces the left seeks to combat, those being the forces of the corporations, the corporate government, and the intelligence agencies by way of the media. The real left, the left at the grass roots, know better, and have no time for Trump, or his hate, or the fascist uprising that has come about because his election emboldened the cowardly, racist pigs. They generally have no time for Hillary bloody Clinton either, because she is as much of a corporatist scumbag, as any other filthy rich, morally defunct, clueless halfwit with an easy life and no callouses on her hands.


The LEFT hates the Rich but at the same time Soros has a Net Worth of 25.2 Billion.

The left hates socially irresponsible people, whether they have money or not. Furthermore, Soros means less than nothing to me, and I am firmly for the left. I do not like him, I do not like the amount of power he has over matters which ought to be nothing to do with him, nor do I believe he is anything to do with any movement I support or am a part of, because I believe that the number of people who are both decent, hardworking, and well off, is significantly less than many have been led to believe, and does not include anyone who is sitting on billions of dollars. Put simply, if he believed in the same things I do, he MIGHT have retained a single million, but not anywhere near his entire net worth. So, we are not politically similar, he and I. I AM a benchmark for leftist thinking. He is not. Pay attention here, because things get tricky... If you want to understand the difference, first you are going to have to go back a few years of your intellectual development, and learn to think in a nuanced fashion, so you do not confuse the DNC, who are not representative of the left, but of the DNC exclusively, which is, in the main, not a left leaning party, and also so you learn not generalise your way to total ignorance. A bummer, I know, but you will thank me for this advice later, if you take it.


The LEFT calls the Right Xenophobia for being suspicious of Syrian Refugees while at the same time has a unhealthy obsession/mass hysteric delusions with Russia.

We do not CALL the right "Xenophobia". We call elements within it xenophobic, and are completely correct in doing so. Whether those elements extend as far as the administration of a government in a given period, is another question entirely, and when that DOES come to pass, as it most certainly has during this administration, we call it out all the louder. No one is suggesting that just because a person likes their guns, has a focus on personal responsibility, and disagrees with us that a more socially focused government is better for the greater majority of hardworking people, than a government cold and dispassionately progressing along a series of corporate sponsored waypoints, toward a corporation owned governance unaccountable to the people who allegedly elect it, that that person who holds that view is racist or xenophobic. However, we have, are, and will continue to call out phobic policies and persons, wherever they are found, and seek to topple them where and whenever they rise to power, as we damned well ought to.


The LEFT called Romney crazy for suggesting Russia was a threat and now says the Russian Influence on the 2016 Election is equal to the 911 Attacks.

Once again, you failed entirely to understand the difference between the grassroots left, which is the only actual marker of what a lefty thinks, and the blather put forward by the corporate owners of your media outlets in the states, and the corporate owned political figures in the DNC, who are not represenative of the left, because the DNC is centre right at best. Nuance... learn it.... response continues in next post...


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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: Xianb

Continues from previous post...


The LEFT calls the Right Bigots when they lose an argument, or elections.

No, again, we call the right bigots when they behave in a bigoted manner, create unfairly biased, anti-worker, anti-immigrant, and inhuman policy, which can only damage people, not heal them. People who have other agendas do all sorts of things that the left are not in the least bit responsible for, but that is there problem, not ours.


The LEFT says Trump isnt unifying the Country while at the same time has a movement called "The Resistance".

The left has a resistance movement, because there are Nazis walking your streets, and being permitted to engage in violence, for which the left has been unfairly and unrealistically blamed. Therefore, the resistance to this situation, in which Nazis can march without being molested by law enforcement, but opposition to those elements is being made taboo, is necessary, because it will always be right and proper to destroy fascists, racists and Nazis, wherever they are to be found, regardless of what the law or popular opinion for that matter, say about it at the time.


The Left believes in Abortion but hates the 2nd Amendment.

I am a massive lefty, and I have no problem with your second amendment. I get the feeling that certain members of the fascist right would be terrified to death of the second amendment, if more people from the grassroots left were to take up their rights in that regard. Its also one of the great sorrows I have as a British citizen, that I am not permitted to carry a sword for the purposes of personal defence. Lefty, like personal freedoms and the right to self defence and the ability to own and carry items for the purpose, who would have thought it... NUANCE! LEARN IT!


The Left says your Racist just for being White.

Utter waffle. Left leaning individuals do not, by and large, believe any such thing. Its also worth pointing out that left leaning individuals are far less likely to involve themselves in generalisations for the purpose of dehumanising their political opponents. I understand perfectly well that there are "white" people who have right wing views, but not racist ones. Frankly speaking, I do not even hold that the description of any person as being "white" is actually accurate. We are all off pink or something. I have never met a person who has a skin tone like copier paper.


Every time a Mass shooting happens The LEFT blames the NRA not the Gunmen/man.

No... every time there is a mass shooting, reasonable people blame the shooter, not the tool. The left, which includes people like me, who understand the importance of logic and reason, do not blame inanimate objects for the way they are used. Some ignorant fools do, and they represent no one but themselves in the doing of it. Its also worth understanding that the corporate sponsored media do an awful lot of crap talking too, but they also are not representative of grass roots, left wing thinking.


The LEFT hates tax cuts for the Rich but wants everything Free. Free Healthcare, Free Education etc.,

The left disagrees with tax cuts for those who are already wealthy and need no help to remain in that state what so ever, because we agree that those who are in need of assistance, because those who employ them refuse to pay them a proper wage, and have gotten rich by exploiting their work forces lack of political power, lack of access to legal representation, and the fact that people cannot afford to be choosy about who they work for, are both in need and deserving of that help, until such time as employers are forced by government mandate to pay their staff a living wage. Its one or the other folks, because anything else is genocidal and has the intent behind it, of keeping the worker starving and too tired to protest on his or her own behalf, which leads to the sort of social problems that the right blame lazy people for, even as the people who suffer most as a result are working three jobs, and still only able to afford to reside in an apartment which is rife with pestilence and building code violations.


The LEFT Loves Free Speech and Expression and yell dictatorship if there Press Pases get revoked or TV appearences shutdown unless its them Wiretapping Reporters who they disagree with.

You must HATE having a nuanced and balanced view of matters. The left is not the press, and it is not the political left. The left is the people in the streets, and most of them disagree, on principle with any interference in the freedom of the press, from any quarters, regardless of who heads the government while it is happening, just the same as those who are genuinely of a left leaning persuasion hated Guantanamo Bay and the mass surveillance situation, just as much under Obama as they did under his predecessor, and do under Trump. What else can you include in this cornucopia of misunderstanding and willful ignorance?


The Left calls the KKK, Nazis, and Neo Nazis the far right yet have forgotten these groups were founded by them.

Ask an actual historian about that, and you will get schooled. The left did not found the Nazi party. In fact, the genuine socialists in Germany and the territories conquered by it, were under just as much threat from the Nazi party as anyone else was, which is why so very many of them were executed by that party, during their reign of tyranny. The Nazi party, by its other name, was deliberately named to include socialism, because at the time of its rise, socialists had built pre-existing labour movements which were beneficial and benign, but ripe for exploitation by the far right, genocidal maniacs in the Nazi party. Their naming themselves what they did, was a propaganda tactic, identical to the name that North Korea gives itself, by calling itself the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea. Its Korea, but nearly every other thing about the name is false and designed to make one think that it is a different sort of place, run in a different way, to how it actually is. But again, nuance is beyond you, so I could be wasting my breath in explaining.


The Left says the Right doesn't believe in Global Warming and yet approves a deal that doesn't punish the worlds biggest polluters.

Be specific, which deal are you referring to? Its a bit rich, your pulling this query out, when your golden idiot pulled out of climate agreements for no reason worth a damn.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 07:57 AM
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The Left calls America's Elections Sacred but at the same time are trying to overthrow the Duly Elected President with Impeachment

The left also calls out fascists and refuses to have any in leadership positions, because they know what dangers are posed by them, and they are right to do so. The right also used to be proud to remove Nazis from their positions. I wonder why it is not still proud to aid in that effort.


The Left calls Trump a Bully for calling out people in the Media but had no problem with Obama calling out Hannity, Limbaugh etc.,

The left this, the left that. Its as if you have never met anyone who has the slightest clue what the left believe or think. Honestly, going out and getting some life experience before commenting further, would be wise, if not a must. You are making yourself seem utterly under informed.


The LEFT hates War and calls the Right Warmongers even though they started multiple Civil Wars in various Muslim Majority Nations behind the scenes.

No, with respect, they did not. Again, you are inappropriately and deliberately conflating the grass roots, with the unaccountable and aloof political class, who are responsible for the situation, and I might add, all sides of the political class are involved, because they are, with perhaps a handful of exceptions, making money out of it hand over fist. McCain is, Bushes are, Clintons are, so are most of the big players in both parties, making money from war and paying terrorists to pose a threat so they can KEEP making money from war. This is how you KNOW that there is no real left in the political class, because no genuine lefty would be prepared to involve themselves in anything remotely similar. We value human life beyond our own physical comfort, you see.


The Left brags about killing Osama Bin Laden but cant say Radical Islamic Terror.

Hillary brags about killing people. Genuine lefties rue the necessity, and you can usually tell a real lefty, because they would have preferred the man to be caught alive, so he could be questioned by reporters and by the authorities alike, about his CIA connections, which were fostered under the Reagan administration, by the way, and are a very real example of proxy wars, being started for profit, by RIGHT wing, hyper-capitalist presidents and their allies in the deep state.


The Left says saying Radical Islamic Terror is just a Political Talking Point but at the same time spouts White Supremacy every time some minor incident happens.

The left does no such thing. The media, owned by corporations interested in dividing the people amongst themselves, largely by lying to everyone about everything, and spinning what they cannot lie about, do. That is, a whole bunch of rich folks, lying to the rest. Again. Not something a lefty supports in any shape or form, which you would know, if you had the slightest idea what you were talking about.


How can the Left support the LGBTQ community but at the same time support Communism,Marxism, Socialism etc., those people are usually the 1st to be killed in those societies.

Again, you show absolutely no understanding of what left and right are supposed to mean, because you are in an exceptionalist position, and refuse to abandon it. Things mean what the rest of the world say they mean, not what you Americans think they do. You remember how I said that socialism was planted into the far right Nazi party, to delude the unwary socialist? The reason you have these idiotic and unsupportable views about what lefties and socialists really think, or believe, is precisely because you bought some Nazi propaganda from the 1930s, because you, yourself, lack the foresight and the wisdom to avoid the deliberate (and after all this time has passed, well documented and obvious) trap they laid back then, along with several other regimes.

Any regime which claims to be socialist, but prevents people worshiping, screwing, drinking, smoking or otherwise consuming whatever they damned well please, is NOT socialist. Got that? Socialism means that everyone has the same liberty, freedom and rights, regardless of their wealth, regardless of their position in life. It also means that they have the same access to housing, legal representation of high quality, heat, light, food, medicine and medical treatment, education, the basics of life are as standard, the minimum you can expect from a socialism which is honest about its intentions and whose intentions realistically match the ideal.

No one gets to purchase advantage in a socialism, thats all.

And you would know this, if you had bothered to step outside the propaganda bubble that you are living inside of. This is the problem with accepting the American idea of left and right. What you call left, I call centre right, because willingness to pay for oil wars is something that cannot be accurately associated with leftist politics. Willingness to bail out banks rather than the people? Not a left wing idea. You may believe otherwise, but your beliefs do not change the reality before us, they only dictate how wrong you will be about any given matter, at any given time.

Try listening with your ears open and your mouth shut when people speak, and you may actually, finally, one day learn to hear the truth, rather than interpret things for yourself through a hateful filter, placed there by forces beyond your understanding.
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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:16 AM
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doesn't that get old? seriously... it's so damn pathetic at this point. overdone and childish.


op, you aren't doing you side any favors with this crap.. bless your heart. gotta wonder if the Macedonian are kid at again??



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: Xianb

Maybe when you decide to actually have a conversation about the left's beliefs instead of strawmaning the beliefs and telling them what they believe you'll actually understand a bit better? But I'm guessing that is above your arguing ability.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:42 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: fiverx313
just so i'm clear on this... crappy, contentless, trollbait threads are acceptable to post as long as they generate a lot of ad views?


And as long as they're in the Mud Pit I think.


The mud pit used to be a lot of fun but now it seems mainly populated by adolescents parroting back their altwhite parents.

Or copy pasting from the Limbaugh letter.....or that infowars pamphlet that comes out ever so often. Perhaps M. Savage publication pushing those "super beets" like there's no tomorrow. What kind of idiot would buy that $h!t.


Yep the alt left and left in general cannot admit that they are likely the most controlled group in human history, making the Christians and Muslims look like free thinkers.

I now fully KNOW, not believe all hope is lost for you...finally.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:42 AM
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It is utterly tiresome. The only reason I responded at all, was that I cannot let that kind of propagandist waffle stand, without counter.

Bloody shameful.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:45 AM
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Why do you want to make others hate and belittle people who think differently and see things differently than you do?
What did you hope to accomplish by making this thread other than that? Clearly you aren't looking for answers, and won't accept any. You are just spewing hatred for other American citizens.




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