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Im confused by the Lefts Beliefs

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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 09:57 PM
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originally posted by: Xianb
The LEFT loves Muslims but is offended by the word "God".
The LEFT loves ALL Immigrants but questions Melania Trump's Status.
The LEFT says Trump has no Empathy even while donating 1million from his own Bank Account to Harvey Victims.
The LEFT says Love Trumps Hate while at the same time supporting Antifa.
The LEFT hates the Rich but at the same time Soros has a Net Worth of 25.2 Billion.
The LEFT calls the Right Xenophobia for being suspicious of Syrian Refugees while at the same time has a unhealthy obsession/mass hysteric delusions with Russia.
The LEFT called Romney crazy for suggesting Russia was a threat and now says the Russian Influence on the 2016 Election is equal to the 911 Attacks.
The LEFT calls the Right Bigots when they lose an argument, or elections.
The LEFT says Trump isnt unifying the Country while at the same time has a movement called "The Resistance".
The Left believes in Abortion but hates the 2nd Amendment.
The Left says your Racist just for being White.
Every time a Mass shooting happens The LEFT blames the NRA not the Gunmen/man.
The LEFT hates tax cuts for the Rich but wants everything Free. Free Healthcare, Free Education etc.,
The LEFT Loves Free Speech and Expression and yell dictatorship if there Press Pases get revoked or TV appearences shutdown unless its them Wiretapping Reporters who they disagree with.
The Left calls the KKK, Nazis, and Neo Nazis the far right yet have forgotten these groups were founded by them.
The Left says the Right doesn't believe in Global Warming and yet approves a deal that doesn't punish the worlds biggest polluters.
The Left calls America's Elections Sacred but at the same time are trying to overthrow the Duly Elected President with Impeachment
The Left calls Trump a Bully for calling out people in the Media but had no problem with Obama calling out Hannity, Limbaugh etc.,
The LEFT hates War and calls the Right Warmongers even though they started multiple Civil Wars in various Muslim Majority Nations behind the scenes.
The Left brags about killing Osama Bin Laden but cant say Radical Islamic Terror.
The Left says saying Radical Islamic Terror is just a Political Talking Point but at the same time spouts White Supremacy every time some minor incident happens.
How can the Left support the LGBTQ community but at the same time support Communism,Marxism, Socialism etc., those people are usually the 1st to be killed in those societies.



You got some logical fallacies in there, and straw men arguments buddy. A few of your points are valid.




posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:02 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Kromlech
Ever turn a rock over, and watch insects scatter?

True. Fundies do that.


Turn over rocks exposing hypocrisy? You said it. Hence.

edit on 4-9-2017 by Kromlech because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Kromlech
Ever turn a rock over, and watch insects scatter?

True. Fundies do that.


Turn over rocks exposing hypocrisy? You said it. Hence.

Bingo.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: 3daysgone

Making a large list where at least one item can be found to apply to someone, doesn't make all those individuals into some kind of cohesive group though. (That's assuming that at least one does in fact apply in the first place which has yet to be proven BTW.)

All you've done is created a arbitrarily chosen list of assumptions which you can then use to pigeon hole strangers into your own made up group whether they belong or not based on no standard whatsoever.

Do you realize how gross that kind of thinking is??? It's just a form of Self Justified Hate toward others based on your own pretend set of Rules. It's not consistent with any kind of reason other than personal bias toward other strangers in the most general way possible. It's pretty vile when you think about it actually.

You'd have to have an almost psychopathic mind to even entertain such a thought in the first place let along to actually consider it in the long term. Any semi sane person would pretty much immediately dismiss such ideas as just being pointlessly mean and baseless for all the reasons I just mentioned and probably many more I didn't.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:13 PM
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"The Left" is at war with itself, even more so than "The Right" is. You have the far-left commie SJWs in conflict with normal center-left democrats, and everything in between. It's easy to classify them all together based on the loudest, craziest groups, but most democrats are sensible people being held hostage by the insane far-left.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:14 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Kromlech

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Kromlech
Ever turn a rock over, and watch insects scatter?

True. Fundies do that.


Turn over rocks exposing hypocrisy? You said it. Hence.

Bingo.


Glad you agree.

edit on 4-9-2017 by Kromlech because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:15 PM
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I'm not left or right but a lot of this is just talking points that can easily be turned around to the other side(since backwards is a favorite thing here you go).

Left can say the same thing:
The LEFT loves Muslims but is offended by the word "God".
The LEFT loves ALL Immigrants but questions Melania Trump's Status.

The Right loves Christians but is offended by the word "Allah which means God".
The RIGHT dislikes ALL Immigrants but doesn't question Melania Trump's Status.


The RIGHT says Trump has no Empathy even while donating 1million from his own Bank Account to Harvey Victims.

The LEFT says Love Trumps Hate while at the same time supporting Antifa.
The RIGHT says Trump doesn't hate while at the same time supporting hate groups, has a history of racism, racist dad, etc.


The LEFT hates the Rich but at the same time Soros has a Net Worth of 25.2 Billion.
I don't believe the whole of the Left sides with Soros. Plus he is blamed for everything anyway, the Rights Nazi blame, while Koch Bros. etc., are ignored in their influence of the Right.


The LEFT calls the Right Xenophobia for being suspicious of Syrian Refugees while at the same time has a unhealthy obsession/mass hysteric delusions with Russia.
Wondered about that too but isn't it refugees vs Russian Government/Putin? So, not considered Xenophobic?


The LEFT called Romney crazy for suggesting Russia was a threat and now says the Russian Influence on the 2016 Election is equal to the 911 Attacks.
To be fair prior to Trump, the Right largely disliked Russia.

The LEFT calls the Right Bigots when they lose an argument, or elections.
The Right calls the Left when they lose an argument, or elections.
The LEFT says Trump isnt unifying the Country while at the same time has a movement called "The Resistance".

The Left believes in Abortion but hates the 2nd Amendment.
The Right doesn't believe in abortion but likes the 2nd Amendment.



The Left says your Racist just for being White.
Seems like that's from social media tweets and memes from a lot of now fired colelge professors and outlandish opines from some organizations.

Every time a Mass shooting happens The LEFT blames the NRA not the Gunmen/man.
The Right brings up the issue of not banning guns early on as the left does with blame.
Not always consistent. With Dylan Roof who was blamed(along with himself and rightfully so)? Hint, you didn't see much gun talk compared to other tragedies there.

The LEFT hates tax cuts for the Rich but wants everything Free. Free Healthcare, Free Education etc.,
The Right hates tax cuts for the poor/middle class but wants everything cut for the rich. Tax cuts for businesses. Tax cuts for the wealthy.

The LEFT Loves Free Speech and Expression and yell dictatorship if there Press Pases get revoked or TV appearences shutdown unless its them Wiretapping Reporters who they disagree with.
The Right does the same with MSM and now Google shutting down Right/Right leaning opine. WHile apparently they advocate free speech for everyone along with being non pc.

The Left calls the KKK, Nazis, and Neo Nazis the far right yet have forgotten these groups were founded by them.
Switching sides- DixieCrats became the Republicans.


The Left says the Right doesn't believe in Global Warming and yet approves a deal that doesn't punish the worlds biggest polluters.
The Right doesn't punish the world's biggest polluters either, business over the environment.

The Left calls America's Elections Sacred but at the same time are trying to overthrow the Duly Elected President with Impeachment

The Left calls Trump a Bully for calling out people in the Media but had no problem with Obama calling out Hannity, Limbaugh etc.,
The Left called out Obama when he didn't support OWS was supported by Goldman Sachs.

The LEFT hates War and calls the Right Warmongers even though they started multiple Civil Wars in various Muslim Majority Nations behind the scenes.
Can thank the Bush's for that.

The Left brags about killing Osama Bin Laden but cant say Radical Islamic Terror.
Sounds confused on this one: "Radical Islamic Terror" seems to be fine, saying "Islamic Terror", is not.

The Left says saying Radical Islamic Terror is just a Political Talking Point but at the same time spouts White Supremacy every time some minor incident happens.
The Right says saying White Supremacy is just a Political Talking Point but at the same time spouts Islamic Terror every time some minor incident happens.

How can the Left support the LGBTQ community but at the same time support Communism,Marxism, Socialism etc., those people are usually the 1st to be killed in those societies.
The above is more complex, more complex than Nazi Germany and LGBTQ.


LGBT rights in communism has evolved radically throughout history. In the 20th century, Marxist states and parties varied on LGBT rights, with some being among the first political parties to support LGBT rights, while others maintained anti-LGBT views. In the 21st century, communist parties are generally pro-LGBT rights and the only Communist state left in the Americas, Cuba, has supported pro-LGBT policy since the 1970s.

Continued....


In the early Soviet Union the Communist Party abolished all oppressive Czarist laws in 1917 related to sexuality. In 1917 the Soviet government also decriminalised homosexuality, and the subsequent Soviet criminal code in the 1920s did not criminalize non-commercial same-sex sexuality between consenting adults in private. It also provided for no-fault divorce and legalized abortion.[9]

However, outside the Russian SSR and Ukrainian SSR, homosexuality remained a criminal offense in certain Soviet republics in the 1920s (particularly the Muslim dominated Soviet Republics in Central Asia) and Soviet policy was often inconsistent in terms of pursuing homosexual rights and wider legal/social equality for homosexual people. Official Soviet policy on homosexuality in the 1920s also fluctuated: between legal and social tolerance of homosexuals and homosexuality to state attempts to classify homosexuality as a mental disorder.

Wiki



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: TruMcCarthy

At least you admit that "the right" has problems too.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:19 PM
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yes, well, let me just address one of these items on the op's massive list...




The LEFT loves Muslims but is offended by the word "God".


I don't love muslims, but I do love the idea that we have separation of church and state and we each have the right to worship our creator in the manner we wish or chose not to acknowledge the existence of one!!

I'm not offended by the word of "God", whatever those words may be, but I can get quite offended when people start telling me things that they believe "God" has said as though they are fact. Especially as a women has had to transform the God into a Goddess just to get away from the bias many religions have proven to have in them when it comes to women. and at least the danged muslims aren't on the city streets shouting their "God's" words out through a bullhorn trying to pass judgement on everyone who walks by!!!

it's simple, my beliefs aren't for you to understand, they are my beliefs and I try to keep them pretty much to myself..
would appreciate it if you did the same with yours! if you can't make a logical argument for or against something without bringing "God's" word into it, then you really don't have much of an argument to make!
edit on 4-9-2017 by dawnstar because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:19 PM
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originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: Abysha




Yes, Muslims are made of several races. But when was the last time you saw a white guy do something bad and have conservatives bark "goddamn Muslims!"


Bowe Bergdahl comes to mind. Are you saying that the Muslims who commit these crimes are mostly non-white? Now that is a racist comment.




And no, those things I mentioned earlier are not "false equivalences". Do you not think healthcare and feeding people provide a service to our nation?


Sure it does. The amount of people taking advantage of it when they could actually get a job is also a truth about it. I have no problem with feeding people that can't work to provide for themselves. I do have a problem providing it to people who can provide for themselves, but will not because they just don't want to.


No... don't be dense. I'm saying that rarely do conservatives accuse a white person of being Muslim and mostly assume Arabic people are. Therefore, in most conservative's minds, Arabic person = Muslim, white person = Non Muslim. So yes, that's one more example as to why anti-Islamic rhetoric has an obvious racist element to it.

And no, your second part is bs. Most people I know on assistance actually work for a living. Many of them full-time. Stop drinking the conservo-blog Kool-Aid.

edit on 4-9-2017 by Abysha because: spellinz



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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Xianb has another exciting thread over here....

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

The funny thing is that many on the left (and heaven forbid some Democrats) are Christians.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Xianb has another exciting thread over here....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Wait what? DBCowboy and I actually caused that?



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:23 PM
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Making a large list where at least one item can be found to apply to someone, doesn't make all those individuals into some kind of cohesive group though.


It does when they are all Anti Trump.




(That's assuming that at least one does in fact apply in the first place which has yet to be proven BTW.)


Which one do you think does not apply?




All you've done is created a arbitrarily chosen list of assumptions which you can then use to pigeon hole strangers into your own made up group whether they belong or not based on no standard whatsoever.


Only if they believe in those things does it implicate them. That is not arbitrarily, they chose to believe in it. What stranger is being pigeon holed? Everything he has said can be found on CNN, so somebody out there believes it.



Do you realize how gross that kind of thinking is???


I think that is the point of the OP. To show how gross these people are. But they are out there.




It's just a form of Self Justified Hate toward others based on your own pretend set of Rules. It's not consistent with any kind of reason other than personal bias toward other strangers in the most general way possible. It's pretty vile when you think about it actually.


You have described the people the OP is talking about perfectly.




You'd have to have an almost psychopathic mind to even entertain such a thought in the first place let along to actually consider it in the long term. Any semi sane person would pretty much immediately dismiss such ideas as just being pointlessly mean and baseless for all the reasons I just mentioned and probably many more I didn't.


I agree. That Never Trump crowd will try to use any method, no matter how vile, to over throw a Presidential election.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:24 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Xianb has another exciting thread over here....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Controllers said there must be balance to continue to trick people.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:26 PM
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originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: olaru12
Xianb has another exciting thread over here....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Controllers said there must be balance to continue to trick people.

According to David Icke the reptilians are making the balance and controlling us.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

I think before anyone continues to use terms like "The Left" and "The Right" both need to be defined with a good degree of accuracy and specifics and then understood by everyone else about who and what they include and why.

Not that they'll be correct, but at least it will be possible to grasp to some degree what the Subject of the conversation even is supposed to be.

To then make a case where such a list could apply to a person let alone many people would then be quite a task I think. But at least if someone even came close to doing that, maybe it would merit taking them serious about it. Until then, I'll chalk this up to just one persons emotional post rooted in frustration and clouded thinking. (and that is being nice about it.)



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

At least you admit that "the right" has problems too.


No doubt, those damn Establishment Globalist Neo-Con pieces of sh have controlled and corrupted "The Right" for decades. They aren't giving up power without a fight.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:30 PM
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a reply to: Abysha




No... don't be dense. I'm saying that rarely do conservatives accuse a white person of being Muslim and mostly assume Arabic people are.


If your not conservative, how do you know what they assume? That is an example of what you are accusing conservatives of being.




Therefore, in most conservative's minds, Arabic person = Muslim, white person = Non Muslim. So yes, that's one more example as to why anti-Islamic rhetoric has an obvious racist element to it.


Flawed logic.



And no, your second part is bs. Most people I know on assistance actually work for a living. Many of them full-time. Stop drinking the conservo-blog Kool-Aid.


Nice of you to say most people. Logic dictates that can be interpreted to mean not all. So you do know that there are those that actually do what I am speaking of. That doesn't make it bs. Does the free Kool-Aid taste better?


edit on 4-9-2017 by 3daysgone because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 10:31 PM
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originally posted by: TruMcCarthy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

At least you admit that "the right" has problems too.


No doubt, those damn Establishment Globalist Neo-Con pieces of sh have controlled and corrupted "The Right" for decades. They aren't giving up power without a fight.

That I can agree with.
They are having us battling with each other on all sides, distracting us from them.



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