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Im confused by the Lefts Beliefs

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posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Screw your standard deviation.




posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: introvert



I would feel completely comfortable stating that "most" Americans are no more than 2 Standard Deviations from the mean.



True.

We are more similar than we like to admit.

It's the small differences that we seem to focus on.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:48 PM
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a reply to: introvert

You lie.
The Rightists are members of Mensa.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Wardaddy454

So you're admitting that you're a Nazi?


Are you admitting that that is your belief of a Trump voter?

See now you understand. We don't think all Trump voters are like that.
Bravo.



You may not think so, and maybe nobody on ATS does. But you are not the sum total of the Left. So while I'm glad someone on one website doesn't think I'm a Nazi because I voted for Trump, doesn't mean that the majority of the left agrees. And that goes for the OP as well. You disagree with the assertions made, but at least some parts of the OP are true.

My Richard Dawkins and 3rd wave feminist examples are proof of that.
Whether the entire left is like Richard Dawkins or not isn't the point. The point is that many more people that are not you ostracized him for his critique of Islam, but didn't care that he did so of Christianity. If one believes religion is a pox on mankind, that should be troubling.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: introvert

You lie.
The Rightists are members of Mensa.


So us Leftists do have something in common with the Right.




posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Wardaddy454



As I'm explaining to Alien, You and he are the few, not the majority of the left, if you even identify as "left". Its fair to say there is ignorance on both sides, and its obviously going to be more prevalent on a medium such as Twitter or Facebook as opposed to ATS.


I am a Leftist. In fact, I'm a socialist.

I do not believe much, if anything, in regards to the nonsense in the OP and I find that his post is the sort of ignorance that is common among the brainwashed masses that oppose the Left.

Complete ignorance, misinformed opinions.



ETA: In other words, perhaps the OP was about the average individual that does not browse ATS and attempt to deny ignorance.


There is no such thing as the "average individual". We are all different. We all think a bit differently. For the most part. There are those on the Left that spit their own talking points rooted in propaganda.

The Right is no different.


Alright, then what are the talking points rooted in propaganda that the left spits? Besides Trump supporters are Nazis. Or anything to do with Nazis for that matter, since we've got that part covered.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: introvert

You lie.
The Rightists are members of Mensa.


So us Leftists do have something in common with the Right.


Can't be.
Foxcons can't be members of Mensa? Can they?



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

So you are not the sum total of the Right?



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:14 PM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK
probably because those pushing this cart aren't really left. They say they are and their followers believe them, but they are big business, globalists running an anti freedom, uniculture ticket. That's not left at all, at least not the left of the working man and woman.


I think you are on to something here. The left used to be about freedoms with little gov as possible. The kind that were for freedom from oppressive gov now are the ones that want more and more rules and taxes. Thus, oppressing others.

The so called leader in the 50's of the Soviet Union was Nikata Krushchev (sp) who declared he would take over America without firing a shot. Sadly it appears the Democrats are already overrun by the enemy communist plan and now there are some RINO's helping in this scheme that is aiding the enemy of freemen EVERYWHERE, IMO.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Wardaddy454

So you are not the sum total of the Right?


No, and I never said I was.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:20 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
These threads are amusing but I really can't imagine anyone on the left saying, "Yeah. We do that."



But Neutral parties agree it is true that our 'left' do this with a passion and act like anyone noticing is a bigot. It is sooo true I am convinced to keep the Libertarians in my "will vote for them" list.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:27 PM
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So we have socialists, anarchists, New Dealers, communists...any liberals out there?



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: TruMcCarthy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

At least you admit that "the right" has problems too.


No doubt, those damn Establishment Globalist Neo-Con pieces of sh have controlled and corrupted "The Right" for decades. They aren't giving up power without a fight.


...and controlled "The Left" for around the same amount of time, as evidenced by the willingness of Dems to vote for bulls**t wars that anyone with a room temp IQ could see was a farce.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: dasman888

dasman888,

Your President is an apologist for Nazis, who had to be prodded, shoved, and damned near wrestled onto a podium to denounce the fascist, racist and Nazi activists in his support base. While I am capable of, and willing to engage with the fact that not all people who voted for him, and not all people who are on the right, are fascists, racists and Nazis, those who CONTINUE to support him, despite the evidence of what it took to get Trump to make the statement he should have made ON THE DAY that the Charlottesville attack occurred, ARE in the wrong.

There are no two ways about this, or grey spaces between one or the other. In as much, this is a rare situation, since many are very complicated and have complicated answers to them. This basic, fundamental question does not. Nazis are not acceptable. Period. End of discussion. People on the right need to put down their place on the spectrum, and join those on the left who are standing against this stuff, not because they have suddenly had a change of heart about the size of government, but because they have, just as do those on the left, a determination that all fascism must be eradicated with total, absolute and unflinching prejudice.


There are enough presumptive logical fallacies in this post to drive a truck through. Any honest critical thinker knows it. You probably know it too... either that, or you are a religious zealot, whose religion is partisan politics.

I suppose since I am a U.S. citizen... he technically is "my president". That said... you don't know anything about me... and if you did, it would make your post a pack of lies as well.

Not trying to be reactive, TB... just stating facts. Can't blame you for it... just sayin.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: dasman888

dasman888,

Your President is an apologist for Nazis, w


And here you are and admitted leftist making these claims. Oh, what wonders will we discover next from you?

You are re-serving warmed over BS and helping conservatives prove to neutrals worldwide how idiotic the arguments against doing the right thing are. All the while calling those who do the right things BIGOTS and fools! We see your silly game and call you on it.

I say Game, Set, Match you are proven to be the bigots in a big way and are digging a deeper leftist hole to try to escape. The only way out is to admit it, you are wrong. People are not buying what your selling.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: jkm1864



... The really sad fact is even after the leaks showed that the democratic party colluded to give the nomination to Hillary the Democrats are still crying foul about the evil Russians instead of corruption in their own party.



Wow, just wow. When you think that Bernie was probably the winner over DJT, wow.
edit on 5-9-2017 by Justoneman because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
So we have socialists, anarchists, New Dealers, communists...any liberals out there?


If liberal means, freedom for all as long as they are not hurting others, then i am liberal. That position has been renamed 'conservative' I believe, however.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

Maybe you should keep reading since that isn't my only post in this thread and I do in fact explain my rebuttal in detail later.

I'm not proving anything the OP is saying at all in fact because nothing the OP is saying can be considered valid in the least.

Which I also explain why in my post that I mentioned a second ago that goes into more detail. It's not too far from that first post you quoted so you won't have to look for it very hard.

Do give it a read, your questions may have already been answered.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 11:33 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
So we have socialists, anarchists, New Dealers, communists...any liberals out there?


Ever since I've simplified my ideological approach, I've lost any political identity.


When I'm simply for more freedoms, I've found myself at odds with leftists on some issues and rightists on other issues. I disagree with the socialists, communists, anarchists, New Dealers, Republicans and democrats.

Seems I can't find a single party that agrees with me 100%.

Just being for free speech has put me at odds with practically every single person on this site except for you and maybe a few others.




posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 11:40 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
So we have socialists, anarchists, New Dealers, communists...any liberals out there?


Ever since I've simplified my ideological approach, I've lost any political identity.


When I'm simply for more freedoms, I've found myself at odds with leftists on some issues and rightists on other issues. I disagree with the socialists, communists, anarchists, New Dealers, Republicans and democrats.

Seems I can't find a single party that agrees with me 100%.

Just being for free speech has put me at odds with practically every single person on this site except for you and maybe a few others.



I'm with you on that one. I can get along with any political view so long as they defend and champion free speech. It is what allows different views in the first place. In fact, the more views and variation the better.



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