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Sacked model: 'All white people benefit from racism'

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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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This model said all white people benefit from racism. Trump did not say all Mexicans were rapists, murderers etc.
a reply to: Abysha




posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 02:21 PM
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I beleive she is of mixed race??

So double bluff .....She's racist from both sides!!..... Hypocrite.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: CulturalResilience
This model said all white people benefit from racism. Trump did not say all Mexicans were rapists, murderers etc.
a reply to: Abysha




This is the problem with white fragility. She says "you benefit from racism" and you hear "you are a racist". She makes a statement about how our system has been built and you hear "it's your fault".

How come so many other white people can hear commentary like this and not take it personally while so many like you spin it to be a personal insult?

If your first instinctual response to cultural criticism is to feel offended, perhaps you are the one with white guilt. Maybe this whole "white guilt" thing is backwards because I never feel it, get offended by critiques on racism, nor feel like I owe anybody anything. Yet I can acknowledge it exists and support dialog that encourages awareness and solutions.

Sticking your head in the sand and calling it racist to point out racism is just silly and obvious.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: Abysha

I've read that post several times now, and each time I have re-read it I have been less certain that it actually connects withanything anyone else has said. E.g., you start off by claiming the model wasn't pointing out racism, but conclude by conceding that she was in fact pointing out racism.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: audubon
a reply to: Abysha

I've read that post several times now, and each time I have re-read it I have been less certain that it actually connects withanything anyone else has said. E.g., you start off by claiming the model wasn't pointing out racism, but conclude by conceding that she was in fact pointing out racism.


I never claimed she wasn't pointing out racism.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: Abysha
I never claimed she wasn't pointing out racism.


I think you've misunderstood me a little bit. Here's what you said: "She says "you benefit from racism" and you hear "you are a racist". She makes a statement about how our system has been built and you hear "it's your fault"."

In context, what you are doing is replying to a statement that was not made. CulturalResilience stated (correctly) that this model said "you benefit from racism". You replied: "she didn't call you a racist." (Both paraphrases).

Do you not see this?



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: audubon

originally posted by: Abysha
I never claimed she wasn't pointing out racism.


I think you've misunderstood me a little bit. Here's what you said: "She says "you benefit from racism" and you hear "you are a racist". She makes a statement about how our system has been built and you hear "it's your fault"."

In context, what you are doing is replying to a statement that was not made. CulturalResilience stated (correctly) that this model said "you benefit from racism". You replied: "she didn't call you a racist." (Both paraphrases).

Do you not see this?


She didn't call you a racist. That was my point about white fragility. Insulation from racism makes it difficult to discuss without feeling personally attacked. Saying you benefit from racism doesn't mean you are racist.

Example: You benefit from socialism but you are not a socialist. You can say this about a lot of things yet with many of you here, benefiting from something is taken as a direct personal attack.

Do you not see this?



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 03:17 PM
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I don't consider that this model called me a racist. You pulled that argument out of thin air.
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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: Abysha
She didn't call you a racist. That was my point about white fragility. Insulation from racism makes it difficult to discuss without feeling personally attacked. Saying you benefit from racism doesn't mean you are racist.


I'm feeling a certain sense of futility as I type these words, but here goes...

The person you were talking to did not claim that s/he was being personally accused of racism. Nor did s/he imply it. So your reply was a non-sequitur.
edit on 4-9-2017 by audubon because: typo



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: Denoli

If he believes white people are all racist and are evil, then why does it look like he became a white woman? Went from black dude to white chick. Also I am sorry you guys can call him a her all you want, but he is a guy. Scientifically he will always be a guy. I ask people this, If that person committed a crime and left blood behind and police ran DNA what would that tell them? It would at least tell them it was an black male.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: Denoli

The hairspray finally went to their head.
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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: norhoc


Also I am sorry you guys can call him a her all you want, but he is a guy.


I don't share this view. Genetically, what you say is true. But we are more than our genes. I mean, an adopted child - knowing that they are adopted - might very well call their female adoptive parent "mum", in full knowledge that genetics says otherwise. Because there is something real and precious there - a human relationship, with deep meanings attached. If someone goes about their life as a woman, in such extraordinary detail that only a genetic test would show it up, then what's the problem?



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 04:12 PM
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It's people like her, and their echo chambers, that are in my opinion actually hindering real social justice goals and anti-racism, both on the micro and macro levels. These kinds of statements push away existing allies, like myself, dissuade people on the fence or moderates, and give full to real racists or critics of social justice. In short, poor strategy, offensive, and non constructive for any real anti-racist activism. a reply to: Denoli


(post by norhoc removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 04:46 PM
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Good grief.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 04:48 PM
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originally posted by: Denoli
"all white people benefit from racism".

How do I benefit from the rise of racist Indians that believe they are superior to Africans?

How do I benefit from the racist Japanese people that believe they are superior to gaijin?

How does being labeled a goy benefit me?

How do I benefit from the ethnic war / genocide happening right now in Sudan?

Racism, real hardcore racism is fully thriving in our world right now. Things here in the US could be much, much worse than they are. Whether you like it or not, we do not systematically segregate, enslave or kill people of differing skin colors. Racists come in all skin colors. The important part is in the US, racists are a minority. No matter how much the news wants you to think there's a Klansman in every town... There's not. That's stupid.

There are racial genocides happening right now. Africans in Africa own slaves right now. Children are being sold into slavery and distributed around the world. It could be worse here. Slavery is still practiced in the world with some estimates putting it at over 30 million people. It could be worse here. No country is without racism. It's not possible. Like terrorism and nationalism, you can't kill ideas.

Some countries where slavery is still legal. I'm over everybody's victim complexes, all sides, all subjects.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: norhoc
a reply to: audubon

Not a problem, just a fact, they are a guy and have mental issues


That is your opinion, and you are welcome to it.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: loam



GET HIM PIERS. YES



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: audubon

No it is scientific fact that is a guy learn the difference between opinion and fact


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