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Trump ends DACA

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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: Tempter


What's wrong with emotion? This is a heart wrenching and emotional issue. To try to eliminate emotion from this issue is sociopathic.




posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 11:48 AM
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There is no such thing as non criminal illegal. An illegal is a criminal.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 12:24 PM
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they were just being American citizens like the rest of us. Mostly in school


Exactly, trying to say that they are criminals and Trump is fighting crime and keeping us safe is a retarded lie.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 01:48 PM
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and while people were caring about this and nk, trump just signed away internet privacy

www.whitehouse.gov...


S.J.Res. 34 – which nullifies the Federal Communications Commission’s rule on privacy of customers of broadband and other telecommunications services.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: Jiggly

That was signed back in April.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
What an asshole.


Yup, what an asshole for trying to get rid of a program that created Immigration purgatory.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Tempter

What's horrid about it?
You do know we need immigrants in order for our economy to grow right?

IDK maybe you don't know this.


Then why is Obama possibly the first President since Hoover to not see 3% GDP growth?

Maybe there's more to growing an economy than just immigrants.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: Tempter
a reply to: CB328

If someone robs a bank and gives you the money should you be allowed to keep it?
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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Tempter

What's horrid about it?
You do know we need immigrants in order for our economy to grow right?

IDK maybe you don't know this.


Then why is Obama possibly the first President since Hoover to not see 3% GDP growth?

Maybe there's more to growing an economy than just immigrants.


I sort of think the great recession he had to deal with immediately upon coming on board had a lot to do with that.

This is just an unhealthy obsession with Trump. With all the serious issues this country has, DACA isn't one of them. But he is determined to reverse -anything- Obama did. No matter how small an impact, no matter who it outrages. His current agenda is "I don't like Obama and everything he did was wrong, so if I reverse all of it, I must be doing it right."
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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

If someone is stopped for speeding with their kid in the car does the kid also get a ticket?

That would be a better comparison.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

No the actual comparison should be:


If you trespass into Disneyland and have your kids with you, should your kids be allowed to stay when you get caught.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 05:00 PM
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Trump’s cruel sadistic leadership model. Scare the wits out of almost a million desperate people and use them as pawns for a political show.


He will do the same to Obamacare recipients


He lacks the leadership capacity to lead the congress in passing a permanent solution to this one issue amongst the many immigration issues.

Trump is evil; it’s just no other way to see it



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 05:02 PM
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a reply to: 200Plus

Disney is private property and trespassing is a more serious offence than a traffic violation and being illegal, even if most people don't realize it.

Besides the Illuminati pedos in the underground dungeons say the kids should stay.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Xcathdra

If someone is stopped for speeding with their kid in the car does the kid also get a ticket?

That would be a better comparison.


Nope.. However driving is a privilege, just like coming to this country legally as immigrants. If the driver of the speeding car is arrested are we to leave the child in the car and hope for the best or place the child with a family member or child protective services?

Something that would occur if the parent broke the law while their child was present.

In case you didnt know DACA is actually unconstitutional and there is no law that protects them. It was an Obama harebrained idea that was moving to certain death - either by Trump ending it or the 10+ state attorneys general who filed suit in federal court to end it because its unconstitutional.

If they love being here so much why have they not made their status legal?
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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 05:09 PM
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What's with the 6 month delay? To give everyone a chance to say "goodbye"?



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

When YOU rob a bank and give the money away - the recipient may/may not have committed a crime (especially a child would be innocent).

When YOU are speeding the passengers in the car have not committed a crime.

When YOU bring your children into the country illegally - you have ALL entered the country illegally.

Comparing it to bank robbery or speeding is incorrect - as EVERYONE illegal is illegal when it comes to immigration.

Immigration laws are trespassing laws on a national level.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
If the driver of the speeding car is arrested are we to leave the child in the car and hope for the best or place the child with a family member or child protective services?

Exactly.


If they love being here so much why have they not made their status legal?

Because they can't. Offer amnesty and watch how many jump at the chance.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: 200Plus
Immigration laws are trespassing laws on a national level.

No, they are not.

It is not a crime. It is a civil infraction.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: 200Plus
Immigration laws are trespassing laws on a national level.

No, they are not.

It is not a crime. It is a civil infraction.


Interesting...


Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:
Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
has committed a federal crime.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Xcathdra
If the driver of the speeding car is arrested are we to leave the child in the car and hope for the best or place the child with a family member or child protective services?

Exactly.


If they love being here so much why have they not made their status legal?

Because they can't. Offer amnesty and watch how many jump at the chance.


actually they can. they have to return to their country and apply, legally, for admittance to the US. Just like all legal immigrants ave done.




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