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Trump’s Border Wall Is a ‘Bigoted, Racist Backward Policy’

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posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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We need to build the wall, so that Russia's President Putin can then go on TV and say,

"Mr. Trump, tear down that wall."


After all, we did it to them. Ronald Reagan told Mr Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin wall, and the wall came tumbling down.

Besides, China has "The Great Wall of China", and today the Chinese are famous for making everything. There's a bit of jealosly in America, envious of all the engineering and construction expertise demonstrated by the Chinese over the last few decades. So, now America has to show the Chinese

that Americans can also build "A Great Wall of los Estados Unidos."




posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I wonder what the reasoning is for these tools that they don't care about securing our border. They need to spend more time making things better for Americans instead of Mexicans.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

#MAMA


Make America Mexico Again




posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen
Why is congresswoman Barbara Lee so bigoted and racist against the millions of legal immigrants?

She wants to diminish and marginalize all the work they did to immigrate legally.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 08:00 PM
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a reply to: tulermank

Wait I'm sorry, are we talking about a wall that will only block out one race of people? Is it a magical fae wall with the ability to only let Irish and Brits through it?

I personally thought it would be a wall to allow people the U.S. deems has followed the correct prescribed methods of entering the country but color me silly for that crazy thought.

Jaden
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posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 08:02 PM
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If you are white,

and you own a house,

and your neighbor happens to be Mexican,

and they are constantly trespassing on your property because the grass in your backyard is greener,

and you have hired security guards to toss them out,

but they just keep coming back,

so you build a fence to keep them out,

is that racist?

Didn't think so.
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posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: xuenchen
Why is congresswoman Barbara Lee so bigoted and racist against the millions of legal immigrants?

She wants to diminish and marginalize all the work they did to immigrate legally.



Real strange agenda isn't it.




posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Spend 10's of billions of dollars that would become obsolete in about 6 months? They'd figure out a way over. under or around it.




Let them try. Let's see their resolve to get in illegally.

And the BS about biz owners being heavily fined when caught hiring them? If they weren't here, they couldn't hire them, right?

Think of it like you own a biz with 20 employees, say a jewelry store or a resto.
Do you give your employees a chance to steal from you or do you lock things up at night?

And do you think the illegals will go home or hang around and try for welfare programs? Then what? A big round up?

And they think the Wall is racist and bigoted?! Wait until the welfare programs stop for the illegals.

The money saved from not funding illegals in anyway, will dwarf the price of the Wall.

And do something about the anchor baby thing.



I disagree with that. Employers employing illegals is a huge thing that needs to be fixed along with the rest of Immigration. Nationwide E-Verify should be part of immigration reform. I have as much tolerance of those employers of illegals as I do of Illegals, probably less actually.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: Masterjaden

This keeps coming up because it speaks to his base...um, base.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 08:06 PM
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XuenChen - check
Breitbart - check
Anti CNN - check
Pro Trump - check

It's almost as if there's a 20+ threads per week running theme here..."or is there".


originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: tulermank

Israel has wall bordering Palestine and Turkey has wall bordering Syria and nobody gets past.




They don't .... and they call it a border and nobody calls it racist


Not sure where you got that from but the UN calls it an apartheid wall on illegally occupied Palestinian territory.

INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE, 9 JULY 2004,
LEGAL CONSEQUENCES OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF A WALL
IN THE OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY
casebook.icrc.org...



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
It's a pipe dream so why are they wasting their time on it? And by extension us as well?


Nope,common sense,not a pipe dream.

Conversely, Justin TheTurd, the PM of Canada, by at first inviting illegals for "virtue signalling" reasons has caused a massive humanitarian disaster on the border, and is now forced to erect tent cities to house those same illegals, now crossing the border at an exponential rate.

Tents + upcoming winter = humanitarian disaster.

But then, as throughout his life, when Justin runs into trouble, he runs to Daddy to fix his mess, and now the goverment and taxpayers.

This idiot will shortly announce he is forcing his government to acquire winterized mobile trailers...



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 09:39 PM
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originally posted by: M5xaz

Conversely, Justin TheTurd, the PM of Canada, by at first inviting illegals for "virtue signalling" reasons has caused a massive humanitarian disaster on the border, and is now forced to erect tent cities to house those same illegals, now crossing the border at an exponential rate.


Canada needs immigrants.

They have a target of something like 450,000 to 600,000 new immigrants per year.

They currently let in less than 300,000 immigrants per year.

The problem Canada has, is an aging population, requiring government welfare, all health care paid for by the government, using taxes from the working population. So, as the population ages, they need new younger workers to produce the revenues to pay for the aging population. If they don't find the people, they will have a financial crisis on hand in a few years.

So, all these immigrants are welcome.

Canada is also bigger than the US in land mass, but only has a fraction of the population of the USA.

Canada 30 Million, USA 300 Million people.

So, Canada has the space, it has the need, it has the will, but can't find the immigrants, because it's "COLD" up there.

All these immigrants from Haiti running to Canada are in for a shock.

The first time the Canadian cold hits you, it's actually fun.

Once you start working in it, day after day, you begin to dream of the sunshine back in the Caribbean.

So, let the immigrants come, as fast as they want, stay as long as they can stand it, because few there be that can handle the climate up there near the North Pole, when they have grown up for much of their lives in the hot sunny climate near the equator.

All brave souls that make it to the Canada border should be accepted.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: AMPTAH

Canada mainly gets immigrants from eastern Europe. The vast majority of immigrants to Canada are white people.

Canada has a point based immigration system, as does Australia. Poor people from Africa and Mexico, don't even think about accepted to Canada.
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posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 10:02 PM
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originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: M5xaz

Conversely, Justin TheTurd, the PM of Canada, by at first inviting illegals for "virtue signalling" reasons has caused a massive humanitarian disaster on the border, and is now forced to erect tent cities to house those same illegals, now crossing the border at an exponential rate.


Canada needs immigrants.

They have a target of something like 450,000 to 600,000 new immigrants per year.

They currently let in less than 300,000 immigrants per year.

The problem Canada has, is an aging population, requiring government welfare, all health care paid for by the government, using taxes from the working population. So, as the population ages, they need new younger workers to produce the revenues to pay for the aging population. If they don't find the people, they will have a financial crisis on hand in a few years.

So, all these immigrants are welcome.

Canada is also bigger than the US in land mass, but only has a fraction of the population of the USA.

Canada 30 Million, USA 300 Million people.

So, Canada has the space, it has the need, it has the will, but can't find the immigrants, because it's "COLD" up there.

All these immigrants from Haiti running to Canada are in for a shock.

The first time the Canadian cold hits you, it's actually fun.

Once you start working in it, day after day, you begin to dream of the sunshine back in the Caribbean.

So, let the immigrants come, as fast as they want, stay as long as they can stand it, because few there be that can handle the climate up there near the North Pole, when they have grown up for much of their lives in the hot sunny climate near the equator.

All brave souls that make it to the Canada border should be accepted.




No.

1. You are highly misinformed: the 2017 immigration target is 300,000, not 450,000 or 600,000
www.canadavisa.com...

2. It is the refugees that are on welfare, not the vast majority of Canadian citizens:
globalnews.ca...

The aged portion of the population is not on "welfare" but on the equivalent of Social Security, something they have earned by working for it their entire lives. What Canada need are skilled immigrants, not people cheating rules. The "cold" is not a factor. Canada is a very popular destination and has no issues attracting skilled personnel.

3. Despite the vast geography, the innocupancy rate for accomodations in Canadian cities is very low, e.g. there are no empty cities with facilities and housing available. This is why there are annual immigrantion targets - this needs to be planned.

4. 6000 a month and rising are illegally showing up at the border, on top of the figures above, =72000 year, litterally a entire city's population. There is no "empty city" just waiting to be filled.

This will turn into a massive humanitarian disaster.

Not obvious enough for you ?
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posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
Is that giant wall on Mexico's southern border also bigoted and racist?


There is no giant wall at their southern border. Are you yet another person who was fooled by a fake news article by the right of a big wall in the desert claiming to be Mexicos southern border? The first thing that should have raised a fake news flag with you is the fact that there is no desert on their southern border.



The wall is a stupid idea. I don't think it is racist or bigoted like in the OP I just think it is costly, ineffective and un-necessary.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: AMPTAH

Besides, China has "The Great Wall of China", and today the Chinese are famous for making everything. There's a bit of jealosly in America, envious of all the engineering and construction expertise demonstrated by the Chinese over the last few decades. So, now America has to show the Chinese

that Americans can also build "A Great Wall of los Estados Unidos."


China is kicking our ass and will soon be the global hegemon, and their immigration levels are basically zero. Nothing wrong with learning a few tips from the Chinese. Japan barely even allows a Muslim into their country. Funny, you don't hear the Global Community decrying Asian countries' racism, only the United State's. Almost like there is a plan involved...



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 10:19 PM
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a reply to: TruMcCarthy

There isn't a single country that lets in a single illegal. America is the only exception.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 11:03 PM
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originally posted by: M5xaz

No.

1. You are highly misinformed: the 2017 immigration target is 300,000, not 450,000 or 600,000
www.canadavisa.com...



They ended up setting it at 300,000, for 2017, but there was discussion for years about raising it much higher, e.g.



McCallum said Wednesday he's read the report by the Advisory Council on Economic Growth that calls for a 50-per-cent increase in targets to 450,000 people a year.

www.cbc.ca...



These numbers were revised down lower because of the world financial slump.




The "cold" is not a factor.


For people immigrating to Canada from hot climates, it's a major factor. They are also warned about this by Canadian immigration. Not everyone can adapt comfortably to the long cold winters in some parts of Canada. Even Canadians, born and raised in Canada, have their "Snowbird" club that hop down south to the US states of Florida, Texas, and Nevada to escape the winder months.




This will turn into a massive humanitarian disaster.


I doubt it.

After seeing their first few winters, many of these migrants will elect to go back to warmer climates.

I say, let them come and try their luck.

Those that can adapt, deserve to stay.

There's a reason that Canada only has 30 Million people, while the USA has 300 Million, when both nations were formed around the same time by the British explorers.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: tulermank
a reply to: AMPTAH

Canada mainly gets immigrants from eastern Europe. The vast majority of immigrants to Canada are white people.



That used to be true, before 1970. Since then, things have changed alot...e.g. 2011,



Asia (including the Middle East) was Canada's largest source of immigrants during the past five years, although the share of immigration from Africa, Caribbean, Central and South America increased slightly

Source: www12.statcan.gc.ca...





Canada has a point based immigration system, as does Australia. Poor people from Africa and Mexico, don't even think about accepted to Canada.


Canada is not a poor person country, because it's expensive to live in the cold weather. If you're too poor to pay for winter clothes and heating, you die. In hot countries, you can just take off your shirt and chill out. You don't even need a roof over your head. You can sleep outside under the night sky. Can't to that in Canada. You need too many "essentials" to survive in the cold without a bit of wealth. Having said this, the Canadian government helps those who are less well off to survive. But, you can get to Canada using family connections, and marriage, just like the US. You don't have to be super rich, but your relations in Canada have to be rich enough to prove they can support you.






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posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 11:34 PM
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I'm more open to the idea of a wall if they make it easier for people south of the border to enter here legally. Because:
1) Businesses want them
2) They're going to come anyway, even if a wall is there; and can die--just watch an episode of border wars to open your eyes
3) Broken families means more hardship; more poverty probably too
3) The economy won't suffer as much, bolstering payments for the wall
4) Legal immigration means there's a "paper trail"; it strengthens accountability; something important in our country

Durign the election I was one of those who said "A obtuse clown headed idea. But that's what you get with Trump."

Just a few things. I have to go.
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