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What is actually known about warriors after death?

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posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 07:35 AM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

God is punishing those who kill others. Therefore, all warriors are in Hell, they don't reincarnate. Or some will be animals, and they have to prove much if they want to be humans.

Even if someone owns a weapon, can be punished without using it.

Other creatures exist at the same capabilities of God, so He is not alone. He has a hard job to decide who is right, or who is wrong. The Earth is a weapon.




posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: spidermastermind

THERE you are.
Will you back that little DOOZIE with Scripture?
Can YOU defend with lethal result AT ALL?

Pacifism dies without a defensive shell.



posted on Sep, 5 2017 @ 08:05 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

What is known about ANYTHING after death? I've got my own shared gnoses for my spiritual path, others have theirs. In the end. There is only one way to find out... and as far as I know, one does not comeback (with proof) from death.



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: Noinden

I'm sorry Noinden, why don't you just use the words "spiritual knowledge" instead of the transliteration of the Greek into English word gnosis? Why not use the Translation instead of the transliteration? I am sure everyone knows what spiritual knowledge means, and there is no reason to use a transliterated Greek word in English to get that across.

And BTW, the spelling is g n o s i s, there is no "e" found in the English transliteration of the Greek word for spiritual knowledge which is gnosis.

If you were conveying that thought of the transliterated words "spiritual mysteries" (plural) in the end you are no more sure than the next mystery what lies beyond death because you limited yourself to one Gnosis (spiritual mystery). And thereby expounding yourself to one spiritual path that can't be known on this side of Death is totally illogical for someone with your vast knowledge, wisdom and understanding of spiritual things (as you claimed in another thread). I bring this up because you claim I have the knowledge of "ALL" MYHTS, oh wait a minute. You believe in one myth over another yet you call it a gnosis, "spiritual knowledge" of what you basically said in the other thread you don't believe in any of them. Let God be true and every man a liar.

However, I do have gnosis "spiritual knowledge of the mystery that is in Christ Jesus" which allows me to know NOW where I will go after death, and need not experience physical death to have the knowledge of it. Because my life is in Christ, because God is the God of the living and not the dead. While Jesus Christ himself is the judge of both the living and the dead.

You have really caused me confusion, you slammed me for using the Quantum in place of the word measurement of which the clear English word quantum does mean in one of its general meanings "a measurement", and I clarified it as a "Time measurement" by calling it a "time quantum"

But you not only misspell the English transliteration of gnosis but misused it as well. You did so in claiming only one "spiritual Knowledge" i.e. your path over all others. You further slammed me for believing my God's Preserved Bible in English for today as better than all other MYTHS. That is what you called them, not Gnosis or spiritual knowledge, myths. So it is evident in the other thread you called my path or my "spiritual knowledge" a myth, and here in this thread you call your spiritual knowledge a path, a "gnosis" to be exact. After saying they were all myths are you are here calling them gnosis? Which translated in the English is "spiritual knowledge" more precisely under your USE of the word "spiritual paths". I even gave you the clear scientific way to clarify all myths using the science of MYTHOS, the science of deducting myths into truth and even gave you the conclusion of every myth which in the end the only agreement of them all is GOD. You are what is known in the transliteration of Greek into English as a hupokrites.

JMHObservation of your reply to cavtroopper


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posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 03:14 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

You seem very much upset about non English origined words. I wonder why that is? However gnosis is a word, in the English lexicon. Thus if you were being a reasonable individual, you'd understand its used in the correct manner. Further the plural of gnosis is gnoses, and I meant that in the manner I typed it. Multiple gnosis, not singular. So what ever bug has crawled towards your duodenum, keep that to your self. English is a language which has borrowed further than its germanic origins.

Beyond that, where I can use one word, in the place of many, I shall. Try and stop me.

So you just had your whole attack invalidated. Let me summarize

(a) Gnosis is in the English lexicon. It is a legitimate use. Only the ill educated would argue against that.
(b) The plural of gnosis is gnoses. I used it as a pluralized word.
(c) I used gnosis in the correct manner. You used Quantum in an in correct manner.
(d) As a student of the Indo-European spiritual traditions, from whence gnosis has come. I used it in the correct manner. You seem to thing the phrase applies only to Christian faiths. That would be your own biases (look pluralized) peaking out from under your dress


Now lets delve further.

I believe all religion is a collection of gnoses. You can not prove that these are actual facts. Nor do you need to. Thus my own gnoses are no less valid for me, than your own. I'm not claiming mine are the only path. You however repeatedly proselytized at me.

Now hold onto your panties, because I'm going to use a Greek word in the next paragraph. Get over it.

You seem to not know the difference between gnoses, and eídein, that is intellectual knowledge. I will use eídein with impunity. You are welcome to get upset. I will not stop doing so.



Run along little Christian, your deity is of no moment to me, nor his messiah.



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

There is no transliterated English spelling of Gnoses in any dictionary, when you try to google it or babel it, or find a dictionary use of it online it will always be changed to gnosis, which is the correct singular transliteration of the Greek. Epignosis however is a plural form of knowledge in the English transliteration of the Greek. Have you forgot I have knowledge in Greek? Go back and read where I identify my credentials.

Great that you seem to try to understand that the English language is from all other languages of the world. But were did they all come from? North Africa? Middle East? China? Sumeria? From him who confused the single language they had so they could not endeavor in ignorance to reach God via a tower or high building. Or even from space craft.

Toe-may-toe Toe-mat-toe, Quantum 1) quantity or amount. I simply made "time" something that could be quantified and given measurement of which it has. Time Quantum is in fact, a time measurement one of which can only be measured in a certain quantitative units. on earth it is second, minute, hour, day, month, year, century millennium and so on and so forth. The time quantum that cannot be measured is that of "From Everlasting to Everlasting". When we can understand that quantification then we will see our time appointments for the age of things is far off from what we have =established by using Uranium deletions, or Qaurtz timing devices.

I knew right away you meant Many spiritual paths including Christianity. You claimed you had the gnoses(choosing to use your false rendering of the word) that based your spiritual life. However you said earlier that all those Epignosis or spiritual paths, like Christianity were myths. You have not taken the time to scientifically take all the myths and systematically remove all things that disagree with one another. For in the end that when I systematically did so over 30 years ago, I found only one thing remaining, GOD!

You believe in a collection of Myths/Epignosis (the correct English transliteration of the plural Greek word). You said earlier that not just Christianity but all other world religions and the I believe it was Pacific Islander Lore/legends/religions were all myths and you did not believe ion any of them. So now you claim to believe some but not all.

You would do well to be able to separate modern and classical Greek "eidein" from Koine Greek "eido" which can mean literally physically seen first hand sure form of knowledge, it can also mean a sure mentally seen and understood knowledge, and even sure spiritually seen or understood knowledge. You should use the English one that works best to convey English we are not all Greek speaking people in the world. ATS would have a problem if everything they did had to have a server to hold every different language. Thank God for babel internet translator but it does not have many of the older obscure and obsolete meaning. Chinese have issue with the translation programs because it does not translate Mandarin, Fujian and Cantonese into their respective dialects correctly.

I wrote a 3,000 plus page thesis at a major Christian University as to how John Strongs used Classical Greek meanings and attached them to Koine Greek words. In the end I had showed how that there were not enough Koine Greek NT fragments of the Bible, as well as secular documents to give even meanings to one third of the NT Bible. I showed evidence of the Classical Greek and how he took many words he could not prove were the same but thought they were. Even the every word you used "eidein" (I realize I did not attach the articulate speech point you added to the first "i") that is found in the classical Greek which you wanted to bring into the discussion. That is why I showed that the word Eido was the Koine equivalent to what you had in your Classical Greek word. By the way my Greek Professors were so amazed and many thought it was just short of genius. I was asked how I came about writing about it, I told them it all started in my first year Greek course when I started to dig into Greek root words and found discrepensies and that kept me going for four years and in the end resulted in over 3,000 pages. I was given the highest grade possible for a thesis and I graduated with honors, something I never thought I could ever achieve I graduated with a 3.9 grade level. My other religious professors were not impressed especially on my thesis in Christian Theology which dogged their ecumenical drive they were pushing on us students. If only secular students would check what they are taught before believing what their secular liberal professors try and push on them, like socialism as the best economical system in the world.

So stick to English and use it simply as possible and anyone with a sixth grade education could understand. I really mean that. I knew a guy, may God bless him in heaven, he didn't have but a third grade Filipino education taught himself to read English by using an AV Bible and a Webster Dictionary. That man had more wisdom than half the guy here on ATS when it comes to Bible issues. Seriously, I had two Filipino Christian who had a issue and wanted to go to court in my Church plant there. I sent them to this guy (a NT bible precept) and they both told their sides of the issue. In the end the man guided them to a peaceful and mutual resolution to their situation. After it was all settled both parties gave him a one goat each out of their appreciation of his wisdom in solving their problem. True Story.

I still in encourage you too take all the myths/gnosis/eido you have and lay them all out and scientifically remove all that disagrees. If not just make two models of the Helio-centric and Geo-centric and see if what I said were true. When you see that I am correct then you can trust me on my claim about the MYTHOS challenge (which takes far more time).

I have no Messiah, that is for the Jews. I have God Almighty who has adopted me into his family, forgiven me of my sins, justified me from judgement, he has destined me to be Holy and without blame before him in Christ.

Run along little demagogue/trouble maker/rabble-rouser/antifa affiliate.



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 09:10 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

It's a plural noun according to Collins Dictionary.

I wouldn't expect you to understand though. It's been pretty obvious you don't understand English.

(No need to reply. Just correcting you, again)



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

that is a British dictionary. Then I stand corrected, it is a British spelling and I knew it not. But that dictionary is not very old. The Webster Unabridged Dictionary of 2007 which has meanings that go back to 1829 does not have it. It has it as Gnosis. And they spoke a lot of British words and spellings yet not this one. So I can only assume it is of newer addition to the British word.

The Original 1590 Oxford dictionary used in 1611 only had 50 words in it, and it didn't have gnoses, as a matter of fact many of the words are not even intelligible as English language today. If you want a copy of that dictionary you will have to go to the a public domain site and search for it. I can't at this late hour remember which site I used, maybe it was Gutenberg Society.

Oh and all this coming from a god damning, Jesus calling, hell sending religious atheist.


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posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Yes. Coming from an atheist. An atheist that has to keep correcting a hate filled Xtian who is clearly unsure about his faith. And the Collins dictionary was first published in 1979. So not that new.

I can say god damnit and it not literally mean me asking a god or gods to damn something.

I can say go to hell and it not mean an actual place.

The're insults. Like go forth and multiply. It doesn't actually mean go forth and multiply.

But I don't expect you to understand English language.
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posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 09:40 PM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

the only hate I hate is for my sinful flesh of which I will rejoice in the day it is adorned in Christ. Something of after life I know today to be true.

TerryDon79 I hate thee not but you amaze me in how religious you really are. When you stop calling on God to damn people, when you stop calling on Jesus name when you hurt yourself and when you stop telling people to go to hell, all of which are really HATEFUL, then I will no longer believe you believe in God.

But because you use those commands, names and places, you know deep down you know and believe in God, no matter what you defend yourself with. It is shown in your cursing that you believe, yet you are not saved, just like the devils who believe in God. It is ignorant belief at best or down right denial of the truth that is in your heart. otherwise you would never use any of those words.



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Really?

You now don't know what insults are?

Jesus f'ing Christ on a bike.



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

You are wrong. As Terry just proved (I was in a work meeting). You don't understand how the English language works. IT adsorbs word from other languages quite readily. Now go have a shufti at a real dictionary like the Oxford


Oh and feel free to learn something about other religions. It might help you with your own problems


Now my doctorate was nbot 3000 pages. Why? Well (a) its in a science and (b) Real universities have both minimum and maximum word counts. If you can demonstrate your point in fewer words, you are a better scholar.

So again lets summarize;

(a) Gnosis is indeed part of the english language. As shown by Terry
b) You clearly do not understand the Indo-European mythic landscape, and I postulate you don't
really understand your own Abrahamic one.
(c) You insist on trying to proselytize at me.

So here is my response:



A Prayer to Catvrix. Gaulish God of war!



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 10:02 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

the god of war, called the god of fortresses, is mentioned in the Bible. He is the Devil. Go ahead chant and pray to him and use his name to damn people, and when you hurt yourself and send people to hell in his name. Unlike our friend who uses the Christian God to do so on daily basis.



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 10:08 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Quick question (I've posted it in the other thread too)

Do you have learning difficulties? If you do, it would explain your lack of understanding about English and insults.

If you don't, then it just means you're uneducated.



posted on Sep, 6 2017 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Sorry neighbour there are multiple Gods of War. Catvrix is not the devil. Thank you for playing.

Seriously you are very much blinkered in your beliefs. I acknowledge your deity exists. It is just not the only deity, or the pre-eminent one



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 06:47 AM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

People don't just go to Hell because others want them to do so. Taking someone to Hell is based on UFO technology, and if someone is in Hell for example for 2000 years, he can still be brought back in time within minutes to restart his new life.

God has a problem with people (and the animals). He wants people to work, to extract metals from underneath. It is because these entities consume the metals as food. Therefore, those who are not working, are likely to go to Hell, because less resouces will be extracted due to his laziness.



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 07:30 AM
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They end up pooping in their pants like the rest of us.



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: spidermastermind

I know.

it is directed towards a person who is religious but claims to be an atheist.

The gods you speak of are false gods sounds like you have been reading Zac Sitchin(sp?).



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

actually they are called different names by different cultures and people but they are all one Satan the devil.



posted on Sep, 7 2017 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Yeah, I'm religious because I've used the word god, hell and Jesus Christ.

I guess that makes you a devil worshipper because you're filled with hate and said the word satan.



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