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DACA immigrants terrified as President Trump decides their fate

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posted on Sep, 2 2017 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

They were never granted voting rights.


You are correct, they were encouraged to vote without having voting rights, and the DNC prepared a few methods to count their votes.

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posted on Sep, 2 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: jkm1864

No they can't. A non-citizen must have a green card (permanent resident) to enlist. If they had a green card they would be legal.
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posted on Sep, 2 2017 @ 06:47 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
People brought here as children shouldn't be punished for the crimes an adult chose to commit. Not to mention since they were protected by DACA they were able to get educations and vocational training the same as any legal citizen. Now that so many of them fill vital roles (companies are stating is the very reason they love DACA and support it) and pay taxes... we're going to deport them?

Logic fail.


So we should just let it go?

Do we worry about the children when we take the parents away for tax crimes? Should we let tax crimes go?



posted on Sep, 2 2017 @ 07:14 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
So xPresident Obama starts the DACA program for people who are technically "illegal immigrants" because they came to the U.S. when they were children.

Many actually have gone through the system and are known to the "government".

Many others have not.

Now President Trump is probably going to change the rules.

To what extent who knows.

Trump is supposedly going to announce whatever it is on Tuesday.

People in Congress have been vocal this week as well.

The whole thing is based on some orders from Obama, and trump's "actions" will be too.

Well what should be done ?

Why hasn't Congress done anything in the recent past? (especially the 2009-2010 Congress).

Here's an article citing some heart-tugging living testimonials.....


DACA immigrants terrified as President Trump decides their fate


Leezia Dhalla is spending her days glued to the news, anxiously waiting for President Trump finally to announce whether he will kill the program that has protected her and nearly 800,000 other young undocumented immigrants from deportation.

Trump is considering ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, a program he inherited from President Barack Obama that allows DREAMERS — immigrants illegally brought to the United States as children — to remain.

After weeks of speculation over the future of the program, Trump told reporters Friday that “We love the DREAMers," and will announce a decision "sometime over the weekend ... probably Sunday, Saturday. The latest will be Monday."


DACA






For once I can give you a star



To put these people out of the country to me is a crime



posted on Sep, 2 2017 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I say, if they were so concerned about being Americans, they could have applied for citizenship already. That they don't says a lot, doesn't it? Send them back to their home countries, and they can apply to enter legally.



posted on Sep, 2 2017 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

If their parents came here legally, they wouldn't be terrified.



posted on Sep, 2 2017 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
That they don't says a lot, doesn't it?

That you don't know that they can't says a lot as well.

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posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: xuenchen

I'm all for the wall. As well as strong, enforced immigration policies.

But we have to draw the line somewhere. Good lord, let's show some compassion. Let the kids stay.

Just as a political move, it'd gain points.


I have to agree here.

Kids should be allowed to stay on the condition they will seek to rectify their status.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 04:41 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: xuenchen

I'm all for the wall. As well as strong, enforced immigration policies.

But we have to draw the line somewhere. Good lord, let's show some compassion. Let the kids stay.

Just as a political move, it'd gain points.


I have to agree here.

Kids should be allowed to stay on the condition they will seek to rectify their status.



What about their parents? You can't tear kids away from the their parents, so their parents (who are presumably the ones who broke the law) have to stay as well, right? And this would go for anchor baby parents as well. And once we've established these parameters, undoubtedly they will push farther. Illegal brothers and sisters, illegal grandparents, they will be allowed to stay too. All these people who broke the law, or are simply related to those who broke the law, have now jumped ahead of everyone who are trying to become citizens the legal way. The US already allows BY FAR the most immigrants into the country every year as any other country in the world (almost double #2 Germany), we shouldn't be breaking immigration law just to "prove" that we are immigrant friendly. It will never be enough for those who criticize the U.S.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: TruMcCarthy

You do what has always been done with anchor babies, they can go home with their kids or leave them with a guardian.

They are not tearing the kids away from their parents, it is the parent's choice.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: TruMcCarthy

They can go with their parents or stay with a guardian.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 04:55 PM
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If there is to be some path to citizenship to those here illegally, it should involve some penalties/fines/back taxes being paid. They have a debt to our society that needs to be paid to our Country and to those who LEGALLY immigrate here.

At that point they can either join us and pay the price or leave.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: TruMcCarthy

They can go with their parents or stay with a guardian.


Do you really think that is a realistic viable solution? What guardian do most of these illegal children have in the US? And if they go with their parents, that is no different than deportation. And you can already hear the wails and cries and protests and riots of democrats about how evil it is breaking up families, or "deporting" these children by forcing them to go with their parents. I just don't see how your proposal is any better than what we have now.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: pavil

If the path was there people would pay the fine or whatever.

Reagan's amnesty had 3 million join you that hadn't before because the path just wasn't there.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 08:46 PM
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a reply to: TruMcCarthy

A guardian can be anyone their parents trust.

The difference is that it would be the parent's choice.

A lot of them are not children.

People will protest either way.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 08:53 PM
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I'm for strong borders and limiting who comes in going forward, but that also requires reworking the immigration system as it's a complete mess and mockery, and I know as I've dealt with it first hand.

I am not however for penalizing children. They had zero choice in the matter. Once they're here, too late. It's an entirely different issue than booting illegals who've committed crimes.
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posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

They were never granted voting rights.


You are correct, they were encouraged to vote without having voting rights, and the DNC prepared a few methods to count their votes.


They must have voted Republican.



posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 09:51 PM
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So what is a kid who grows up in America brought here by their parents suppose to do when they find out their technically not a citizen, volunteer to go back to a country they have never been in? They know nothing about.

Volunteer to be deported?

Would you do that?



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posted on Sep, 3 2017 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: Willtell


They should just be granted citizenship. That's logical, easy to do, and compassionate. Overall, the USA has a reputation for being a compassionate country.



posted on Sep, 4 2017 @ 01:51 AM
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originally posted by: Starcrossd
How many Dreamers have applied for citizenship?



Can they even work? Do they have a SS#?

How'd they get one?

Those companies are admitting they hire illegals?

Do they have a police record?

How long have they been DACA as opposed to being illegal?

Is DACA constitutional? Did Congress pass the DACA law? Why not?

Are they better educated and more talented than other legal citizens the same age?

Can they prove how they got to the US and when, to deserve the DACA designation?






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