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FBI, Homeland Security warn of more ‘antifa’ attacks

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posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 08:45 AM
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Politico is claiming they have "obtained" some documents that say the controversial organized group called "ANTIFA" has been on some kind of terror list since early 2016 !!

That would mean the "government" has been watching their every move.

Yet we see violence often unchecked.

According to the article, the DHS has been issuing warnings.

Well this is interesting.

FBI, Homeland Security warn of more ‘antifa’ attacks


Federal authorities have been warning state and local officials since early 2016 that leftist extremists known as “antifa” had become increasingly confrontational and dangerous, so much so that the Department of Homeland Security formally classified their activities as “domestic terrorist violence,” according to interviews and confidential law enforcement documents obtained by POLITICO.

Since well before the Aug. 12 rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, turned deadly, DHS has been issuing warnings about the growing likelihood of lethal violence between the left-wing anarchists and right-wing white supremacist and nationalist groups.

Previously unreported documents disclose that by April 2016, authorities believed that “anarchist extremists” were the primary instigators of violence at public rallies against a range of targets. They were blamed by authorities for attacks on the police, government and political institutions, along with symbols of “the capitalist system,” racism, social injustice and fascism, according to a confidential 2016 joint intelligence assessment by DHS and the FBI.






posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:15 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Is the new administration also giving a stand down order?



posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: xuenchen

Is the new administration also giving a stand down order?



Makes ya wonder.

But maybe it's deep state operations.

The "new" administration may not have enough control to stop anything.

And remember, where these things are happening are not necessarily "new Administration" friendly.

The U.S. is split.




edit on Sep-01-2017 by xuenchen because: naught



posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

True but dhs and alike programs are federal with cabinet control. You would think they know.

But it has made me wonder,...

I hope cissy park isn't targeted as white supramacist, everybody is so ready to blame and inflate the other sides positions. The organizer has literally shouted f white supremacy.

I never under stood how hearing Anne Colter or Milo speak would be so dangerous.

Whenever they speak I just think look at these idiots saying controversial things with the purpose to be famous and make money off it.

Kids are so sensitive now.
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posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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Instead of warning about it, why not actually, you know, do something about it? Isn't that their job?



posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Interesting... Progressives were pretty mad when Trump called out Antifa. I should be shocked that they support terrorist cells if those cells are anti-right but I'm not.



posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:28 AM
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Previously unreported documents disclose that by April 2016, authorities believed that “anarchist extremists” were the primary instigators of violence at public rallies against a range of targets. They were blamed by authorities for attacks on the police, government and political institutions, along with symbols of “the capitalist system,” racism, social injustice and fascism, according to a confidential 2016 joint intelligence assessment by DHS and the FBI.

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“It was in that period [as the Trump campaign emerged] that we really became aware of them,” said one senior law enforcement official tracking domestic extremists in a state that has become a front line in clashes between the groups. “These antifa guys were showing up with weapons, shields and bike helmets and just beating the # out of people. … They’re using Molotov cocktails, they’re starting fires, they’re throwing bombs and smashing windows.”



Almost immediately, the right-wing targets of the antifa attacks began fighting back, bringing more and larger weapons and launching unprovoked attacks of their own, the documents and interviews show. And the extremists on both sides have been using the confrontations, especially since Charlottesville, to recruit unprecedented numbers of new members, raise money and threaten more confrontations, they say.


www.zerohedge.com...

But remember, when Trump blamed both sides, he was a nazi sympathizer.

If this report is true and feds have been warning state officials since April of 2016 that Antifa like groups were the [rimary instigators of violence at rallies, then a lot of officials have a lot of explaining to do.

Why did so many in the political landscape and media go bezerk at the mentipn of both sides having blame at Charlottesville?

Why was Berkeley mayor cozying up to BAMN (a similar to Antifa group) and why did he allow Antifa to riot unopposed in his town?

When this report specifically says that Antifa's rise in violence ran parralell to Trump run at President, why do people still claim they are non just anti right wing? And more importantly, why was Trump and his supporters getting blamed for the majority of violence when it seems that the FBI admits it was anti trump people that were the primary instigators of violence?

And why did it take many politicians so long to condemn this obviously violent organization?

As usual, it seems like those of us on ATS that have been calling out Antifa are ahead of the curve once again.

As I have been saying, by allowing Antifa to silence free speech and beat Trump supporters, leaders have been emboldening extremist from both sides.
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posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Uh. . . . then why aren't they arrested when they break the law?



posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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How do you invade a populous without actually invading them.

You find a group of like minded people and you give inspiration, a reason to make their voices heard. Those minded individuals will spread their hate and anger and it will begin to affect those around them. Monkey see monkey do. With that in mind you have also gathered a group of violent, unstable like minded individuals separate from the first group. These guys you send into your rallies and protests to cause chaos and disorder. If you get enough people to do this. You can get a lot more people to follow suit.

Humans always look to a leader. That's why slavery throughout time was so successful. We like being ruled. Told what to do. And how to it. We are sheeple I hate to say it but we are.

Who's ever apart of this is beyond our grasp. Even if we know who they are. If we don't drag them from their homes and force justice upon them. They will continue to infect out populous and development will remain in a stand still. I know I just basically called for violence. If you have a better idea how to stop these people I'm all ears. Not talking about ANTIFA the shadows running them.

Just bringing info to light won't change a thing.
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posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:30 AM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
Instead of warning about it, why not actually, you know, do something about it? Isn't that their job?


The U.S. Government is split.

There's several internal factions fighting right now.




posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: xuenchen

Uh. . . . then why aren't they arrested when they break the law?


Some local "authorities" are not "Trump Friendly".

And, there's thousands of people inside the government agencies working against the "new Administration".




posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:32 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

You have to wonder if the new administration is also giving a stand down order.

Otherwise how does it happen? Aren't federal law enforcement agents present if they are monitoring them?



posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:34 AM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler

You have to wonder if the new administration is also giving a stand down order.

Otherwise how does it happen? Aren't federal law enforcement agents present if they are monitoring them?


Were there any "Feds" in Charlottsville ?

If there was, there wasn't enough.

The "Local" authorities made all the "decisions" didn't they?




posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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That would assume the federal law enforcement is standing down.

After the first time you would think the new cabinet would put federal agents in place to stop and make arrests.

Maybe you have to at least question if "your guy" may be also partly responsible.



posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler

You have to wonder if the new administration is also giving a stand down order.

Otherwise how does it happen? Aren't federal law enforcement agents present if they are monitoring them?


Were there any "Feds" in Charlottsville ?

If there was, there wasn't enough.

The "Local" authorities made all the "decisions" didn't they?



Did they? Why didn't dhs alert the fbi and others to make sure they are there.

Their monitoring must be pretty bad.
edit on 1-9-2017 by luthier because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: xuenchen

Uh. . . . then why aren't they arrested when they break the law?


Because it goes against the narrative that some on the left have pushed.

Many of these mayors don't want controversial right wing speakers.

So just like in Charlottesville, the welcome the "heroes" of antifa to show up and cause violence, then they can say "See how this right wingers cause violence!"

Look at Berkely, the mayor is now calling for the Free Speech event to be canceled because he doesn't wwant violence.

www.washingtonpost.com... m_term=.e29dbeeaf9d4

This is happening aall over the country. Even when conservative sp[eakers are allowed, they have to jump through huge amounts of hoops such as paying unreal security fees, all because violent people that want to shut them down will be violent.

It turns out that if this story is true, not only could these leaders see antifa's violence with their own eyes as we did, but the feds were telling them how violent they were.

And instead of cracking down on the violent trouble makers, they used it as an excuse to help silence people they disagreed with politically. Truely disgusting.



posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler

You have to wonder if the new administration is also giving a stand down order.

Otherwise how does it happen? Aren't federal law enforcement agents present if they are monitoring them?


Lot of layers and bureaucrats between field agents and the white house.



posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler

You have to wonder if the new administration is also giving a stand down order.

Otherwise how does it happen? Aren't federal law enforcement agents present if they are monitoring them?


Lot of layers and bureaucrats between field agents and the white house.


That is only an excuse after the first time it goes south. After that you would put your own people in place that you trust.



posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler

You have to wonder if the new administration is also giving a stand down order.

Otherwise how does it happen? Aren't federal law enforcement agents present if they are monitoring them?


Were there any "Feds" in Charlottsville ?

If there was, there wasn't enough.

The "Local" authorities made all the "decisions" didn't they?



Did they? Why didn't dhs alert the fbi and others to make sure they are there.

Their monitoring must be pretty bad.


Maybe they did .........

Virginia received DHS warning before Charlottesville rally

Homeland Security alerted officials to potential for 'most violent' clash between white supremacists and anarchists



The Department of Homeland Security issued a confidential warning to law enforcement authorities three days before the deadly Aug. 12 Charlottesville protest rally, saying that an escalating series of clashes had created a powder keg that would likely make the event “among the most violent to date” between white supremacists and anarchists.

The “law enforcement sensitive” assessment, obtained by POLITICO and reported for the first time, raises questions about whether Charlottesville city and Virginia state authorities dropped the ball before, and during, a public event that was widely expected to draw huge crowds of armed, emotional and antagonistic participants from around the country.





posted on Sep, 1 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
Instead of warning about it, why not actually, you know, do something about it? Isn't that their job?


Here's an idea (and a **trigger warning**):

Send in the National Guard to exercise the governments version of extreme prejudice...like this...


In May 1970, students protesting the bombing of Cambodia by United States military forces, clashed with Ohio National Guardsmen on the Kent State University campus. When the Guardsmen shot and killed four students on May 4, the Kent State Shootings became the focal point of a nation deeply divided by the Vietnam War.



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