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originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: craig732
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Hypothetical question, Do you have a right to resist arrest in these type of scenarios?.
www.constitution.org...“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.”
I hope to hell nobody reads this bullsnip you posted. The very first "quote" in that discussion is a complete and total fabrication. It appears literally nowhere in the actual case law or court opinion on the case, and everything falls apart even further after that.
originally posted by: Blaine91555
What's your opinion of high speed pursuits in a city that has multiple helicopters to follow someone and not put the innocent at risk? Is that a factor? Could that be related to why the officer went too far?
... the Utah Supreme Court held that a Utah statute, which exempts emergency vehicles from normal traffic laws during pursuits, does not relieve officers of the duty to drive in a reasonably prudent way.
originally posted by: OrdoAdChao
a reply to: Xcathdra
Where does it state that? Pull it up and I just might concede. I cannot for the life of me find anything regarding the collection of blood by an LEO as being enforceable by the regulations. Yes, it states that a driver must submit to a drug test or be relieved of their duties and most definitely (eventually) their CDL. But there's no direction that LEO shall collect blood from a driver involved in an accident. The DOT doesn't make regulations that local LEOs enforce. He needs to follow his procedure, not volunteer to enforce DOT regulation on an unconscious burn victim whose records will reflect an initial toxicology screen that can be brought into evidence at a later date if need be.
originally posted by: alphabetaone
The nurse in this incident has suggested that she isn't going to press charges for this act, which I think is a bad move...I commend her for just wanting peace and calm to prevail, as do I frankly and its VERY likely even this dumbass cop didn't want it to turn the way it did....but I believe if she doesn't press charges it sends the wrong signal to other healthcare professionals that may face similar circumstances (which by the way, with respect to Law Enforcement, this is an EXTREME one-off, you dont see this kind of thing happening rampantly) that they need to take a more restrained view on patients - and human - rights.
originally posted by: dreamingawake
Source - Newsline
Bodycam video shows a Salt Lake City police detective grabbing a frightened nurse and twisting her arm before handcuffing her at University Hospital, all because she cited policy not allowing him to draw blood from an unconscious patient. “I’m just trying to do what I’m supposed to do,” nurse Alex Wubbels explained to Detective Jeff Payne on July 26. Video of her violent arrest was released by the Salt Lake Tribune late Thursday.
Video provided below, this look really uncalled for. The unconscious patient was a victim in the accident.
originally posted by: amazing
originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
originally posted by: amazing
Here's the weird thing. I think she was in the right, but...
Why was she the only one standing up for that patient? Where were managers, doctors, supervisers, other nurses, administrators etc. ? that almost makes you think she was in the wrong, or nobody in the hospital liked her and were using her as a scapegoat or something.
Because it was her patient. I don't think you understand the role and responsibility and accountability of an RN.
But it's a team. You don't let your team mate take it like that. And it's everyone's responsibility to care for the patient. You mean the rest of the people at the hospital didn't care?
Due process I'd think.