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posted on May, 12 2005 @ 11:04 AM
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Thanks for letting us in on the Irish mind. Good to know.

I was gonna say, Canada has also made agreements with our government to put a stop to the whole refugee thing. It's hard to believe.

If our government would just do right by our troops, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.




posted on May, 18 2005 @ 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Thanks for letting us in on the Irish mind. Good to know.

I was gonna say, Canada has also made agreements with our government to put a stop to the whole refugee thing. It's hard to believe.

If our government would just do right by our troops, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.



If your government would do right by the rest of the world, we def. wouldn't be having this discussion!!!



posted on May, 18 2005 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by howmuchisthedoggy
If your government would do right by the rest of the world, we def. wouldn't be having this discussion!!!


No argument here. Try being reduced to banging your head against a brick wall. That's what Americans opposed to this madness have been reduced to. The Bush administration doesn't listen to anyone outside its own precious echo chamber. Damn the people and their collective will. To BushCo. we're all useless feeders.



posted on May, 18 2005 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid

Try being reduced to banging your head against a brick wall. That's what Americans opposed to this madness have been reduced to.



We feel for you here in the emerald isle my friend!!!



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by howmuchisthedoggy
We feel for you here in the emerald isle my friend!!!


Good to know, Cousin.

When the fascists cloaking themselves in Christianity reveal themselves for what they are and drop the axe, I wonder how many of us will at least attempt to return to the lands of our forefathers? I still have distant relatives in England; probly Ireland and Scotland, too.



posted on May, 19 2005 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid

When the fascists cloaking themselves in Christianity reveal themselves for what they are and drop the axe, I wonder how many of us will at least attempt to return to the lands of our forefathers?



When that axe falls it will be on the necks of most of the western world. Great Britain and Ireland more so. There may be no going anywhere, as we mentioned before!

Not one to put too much stock in predictions and all that, but I remember a story my mother told me. Just before she moved down to the most southern part of Ireland after marrying my father, an old man from the community commented on her luck. He was well known in the area as being someone with the "sight". The luck he mentioned was the fact that while the next civil war in Ireland was going to be infinitely more viscious than the last, at least my mother would be living somewhere safe.

According to him, the civil war would be brother against brother and that no family would be left untouched. The war would be "won" by the "right" side in a desicisive battle just outside my home town at a bridge, where the fighting would be so fierce the roads would run read with blood.

Oh, how we teased our mother! Yeah right, Ireland, while still troubled in the north had known peace for 80 odd years. Surely the IRA and the republican movement would never live beyond the hearts of young naive and idealistic and the minds of the old and bitter.

It only struck me sometime later. While on military exercises in the area did I notice how one of the main bridges was a choke point and easily defended. Any battle from, north to south or east to west could be very well decided in this small valley.

And then the current world political situation developed and I was left with a cold chill creepin up my spine. Much like America, what if the country became divided down the middle between those who supported the government blindly and those who saw what was really going on?

Brother would turn against brother. My own family with military connections would become suddenly polar opposite to me and those like me. I still wonder which side he meant by "the right side"?

Sorry, I know this is information that is out of place in a political forum, more at home in say, predictions and prophecies, but I needed it to illustrate a point. We in the western world live in a house of cards. It wouldn't take much to bring it down.

There are those of us who can see the machinations behind the scenes and the crisis it is forcing to become unwilling participants in.

I am left wondering which one of us would be better off? A draft in America versus crippling civil war in the rest of the world?



posted on May, 20 2005 @ 08:37 AM
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Very interesting comments. For sure.

If America split in two, it would be heinous. Our Civil War was the most brutal war we have ever engaged in. Curious, eh, after all the wars and conflicts we've fought? Against each other at home. Tragic. And our people (mainly in the South) still have not forgotten. After all these many years it is still a source of contention for some. My great, great grandfather fought with the Union at the Battle of Gettysburg in Pennsylvania. He must've been a helluva man and more than lucky to have lived to tell about it. It can only be described as a scene straight out of hell itself. The carnage was massive.

We have more money, private property and personal firepower in this country than probably any other. That is what makes another war here such a nasty and precarious prospect. Add to that fire, the fuel of such intense pseudo-religious passionate animosities and prejudices and you've got a fight that will rage and rage long.

This will not be a Civil War, though. It will be a Revolutionary war. And it won't split down the middle. It'll be all over the place. It will be those who see the truth and seek restoration of our once-great constitutional Republic vs. those who will defend the current tyrannical regime. And by that, I mean, that goes beyond George W. Bush. That includes the whole lot of his shadow cadre/government.

Unless.. somehow these creatures can be driven out of public office by other, hopefully, peaceful/civic means.






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