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876 Million Up for Grabs, Better to fund disaster relief or wall?

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posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:02 PM
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www.apnews.com...

Seems there's some debate about re-appropriating funds from Disaster Relief into the wall. Obviously this is pretty bad optics for congress given Harvey. Should congress go ahead and re-allocate the funds into the wall (as likely it will be difficult to secure complete funding for it and every little bit helps), especially considering our neighbors to the south have offered to help?




posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:03 PM
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screw the wall. Harvey is happening now.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

Politicians can't let a tragedy go to waste. Most of them should be given a sociopath test.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:09 PM
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military spending gets increased...no one bats an eye..

400 million dollar wall.. people lose their minds!



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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The American dream should be a government without pork.

The American pipe dream...



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: Jiggly
military spending gets increased...no one bats an eye..

400 million dollar wall.. people lose their minds!


I think Trump's latest estimate was around 10 billion, so a bit more of a hill to climb than 400 mil.

apnews.com...



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: Jiggly
military spending gets increased...no one bats an eye..

400 million dollar wall.. people lose their minds!


A useless wall built with hurricane relief money is a bit different, don't you think?

Tunnels, ladders, and boats will still bring immigrants.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

It would be better spent on Houston's storm water drainage issues. I didn't realize the city was so flood prone until reading all of the news coverage about Harvey. It seems that the thirst for more and more development outweighed the need to adequately plan water runoff.

It's too late to do anything about Harvey. Something like this storm or worse will inevitably happen again.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:46 PM
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Is anyone upset that Harvey sidelined congressional plans to re-allocate funds out of disaster relief into the wall though? I'm actually rather surprised there isn't more dismay being shown here over the missed opportunity to funnel money away from a seemingly over-funded (it would have to be thought of as such for congress to have initially proposed it) slush fund in favor of something that is critically vital to the United States continued survival.
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posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:56 PM
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This should be a "No Brainer" (a perfect fit for Trump then...).
Of course EVERY effing dime should go to disaster relief, anything else is just plain moronically stupid!
If Trump wants that bloody wall, there's always "Go Fund Me", a fundraiser tour (coning Trumpanistas out of more of their hard earned cash) or loaning from his buddy/Master Putin.

A side note:
I hope that any ATS member living in the affected area is safe and well.........



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

I think we lived in a better country when the budget had earmarks. Earmarks are like "helicopter" money for the economy. Getting rid of earmarks from the budget IS the New World Order.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 02:41 PM
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Sounds like part of the plan to defund the wall.,
a reply to: Wayfarer



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 03:07 PM
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We have to choose?

How about option 3.

Keep this money and use it here.

www.foreignassistance.gov...



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 03:19 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
The American dream should be a government without pork.

The American pipe dream...


Impossibru!

Our government, and for the most part society, is run by an corporate oligarchy.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 03:48 PM
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Remember Willie Nelson and "Farm Aid?" Trump needs to find some musicians who are willing to hold an outdoor concert called "Wall Aid."




posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

hay dont build the wall then more kids can die with all the drugs that come in but that cool just so we can all save a bit of money and have free drug movement



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: tempestking
a reply to: Wayfarer

hay dont build the wall then more kids can die with all the drugs that come in but that cool just so we can all save a bit of money and have free drug movement


The wall won't stop drugs and it won't stop illegal immigration. The wall is just a symbol for Trump to use in his propaganda effort.


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posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 05:52 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

How is this even debatable? What's the point of protecting our borders if we literally won't help the Americans within those borders? Then again, I remember a lot of them didn't want to use taxpayer funds to help after Hurricane Katrina or Hurricane Sandy, either.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 05:56 PM
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Let them have their stupid wall. Pile the failure ideas together all at once, and their own platform will crush themselves under the weight of idiocy.

I'm about to vote Trump again, it's so poisonous to the reputation of the GOP.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 06:14 PM
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If you really want to prevent drug related deaths, perhaps you should start by reducing the demand for those drugs. Reducing the supply while maintaining the demand only increases the prices of the drugs and profits for the drug dealers.

Also, cigarette smoke kills more than 480,000 Americans per year (HERE). Alcohol contributes to more than 88,000 American deaths per year (HERE). By comparison, drug overdoses killed at least than 52,000 Americans last year (HERE) and that includes overdoses from prescription drugs (which kill more Americans than overdoses from illegal drugs).

So if we're really building a wall to save kids from dying from drugs like you said, then why aren't we building a wall to stop the import of Scotch whiskey, various French wines, German beers, etc? Those products kill more Americans than all illegal drugs combined, yet no one seems to have a problem with them. And we should probably build a wall to prevent the import of tobacco, since most of the biggest tobacco companies are foreign companies & tobacco kills far more Americans than the other recreational drugs & prescription drugs combined. Of course, these examples should also show why building a wall won't do anything to prevent drug use.




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