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originally posted by: KeithCooper
Total shortsighted hogwash. Selfish idioacy...socialism will be just the beginning of the saving of the human specie...some form of communism will eventually be implemented by wiser peoples than ourselves once it becomes obvious the self serving capitalist greed does nothing for the whole. Keep thinking in your little box, spouting armchair wisdoms about economics that only serve the few, and for only the short term...makes zero difference...the only way to actually aucceed is by everyone working together, for everyone...u
What did he say about safety nets like a basic income?
Which is actually the topic of the op. Free stuff.
Also ... many forms of socialism incorporate "the willingness to voluntary cooperation with one's neighbors" ... of course not in the dictionary-defined, ludicrously simplified "socialism" that is being argued for in the OP and by others.
Seems like Hayek never lived in a socialist country either. His argument from ignorance and your appeal to authority are a fail.
I'm sure a certain amount of independence, self-reliance, the willingness to bear risks, the willingness to voluntary cooperation with one's neighbors existed even in the most authoritarian examples of socialism. At least that is what I have been told by those who lived it.
The only out-flier would be going against the majority but then again that doesn't fly too well in any system.