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The only people who want Socialism are people who don't produce

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posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Germany?




posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: luthier




And again your mis leading with the remark

Capitalism does not lead to individualism accept with financial responsibility.

Hence everyone buying the same clothes, using the same phones l, loving Taylor Swift.

Your basic concepts are utterly false in practice.


Word salad. I never said capitalism leads to individualism. I said socialism is the opposite of individualism.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

It isn't though accept in semantics.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

As I already said, that is just your opinion.

I was able to speak to people who actually lived under socialism and while individualism might have been hindered in some way it wasn't to the point that you claimed.

Actually, any form of society is counter to individualism, that is the point.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:14 PM
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As I already said, that is just your opinion.

I was able to speak to people who actually lived under socialism and while individualism might have been hindered in some way it wasn't to the point that you claimed.

Actually, any form of society is counter to individualism, that is the point.


That is just your opinion. And with a single hand-wave we're back to where we started.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:15 PM
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It isn't though accept in semantics.


It is. Socialism is collectivist by nature. Collectivism is the opposite of individualism.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I asked people who were there. They told me that while there were limits on freedoms in socialist countries they were still free enough to behave as individuals.

It is also true that even in "free societies" there is still pressure to conform.

Neither of these things are just my opinion.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:20 PM
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It's just their opinion.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: daskakik

It's just their opinion.


Is that your opinion?



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
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It isn't though accept in semantics.


It is. Socialism is collectivist by nature. Collectivism is the opposite of individualism.


Nope only in semantics. Socialist policy can take the strain off of labor commodity and return it to the family and individual.

Time is also a function of individuality. Time to have your own thoughts.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Then why did you say that I should talk to them?



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

What do you think?



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:24 PM
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Nope only in semantics. Socialist policy can take the strain off of labor commodity and return it to the family and individual.

Time is also a function of individuality. Time to have your own thoughts.


Sorry I do not speak Marxist. Could you clarify in layman's terms?



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:24 PM
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Is that your opinion?



Exactly. I was hoping to show that continuing to say "that's your opinion" is ridiculous.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:26 PM
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Then why did you say that I should talk to them?


I'm glad you did. I'm just wondering why you'd leave out the negative comments about socialism.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

It sounds more like you don't comprehend English.

But you can figure it out.

You should also probably read more philosophers. At least have a grasp of the basic concepts, Alex Jones doesn't count.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
I'm glad you did. I'm just wondering why you'd leave out the negative comments about socialism.

They were not what was being discussed and they are already known.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

But thinking that socialism and individualism are polar opposites is an opinion.

Saying that people in the USSR could dress however they liked isn't an opinion, if they in fact could.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: luthier

It's not me who is misspelling "except" as "accept". I'm hoping English is your second language. If that's the case consider me impressed.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 01:31 PM
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It is in fact.




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