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North Korea just threatened Guam again

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posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: Cynic
Carpet bomb the country with fuel air bombs. At least there wouldn't be any radiation to contend with.


Why not carpet bomb them with food and technology so that the people of NK can know the truth about the planet they live on and take back their country?

Wanting to kill all those innocent koreans makes you just as bad a person as kim.




posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 09:33 PM
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The problem with sanctions is that the NK people think the sanctions are put in place by the other evil countries because they want the NK people to die. Why? because that's what evil people do and kim has them convinced that america is evil.

We need to win the hearts and minds of the NK people. It's the only why to win this without millions dying.
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posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 10:03 PM
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originally posted by: 3daysgone
Statement from the White House.

The world has received North Korea’s latest message loud and clear: this regime has signaled its contempt for its neighbors, for all members of the United Nations, and for minimum standards of acceptable international behavior.

Threatening and destabilizing actions only increase the North Korean regime’s isolation in the region and among all nations of the world. All options are on the table.


Translation of above statement from White House:

We will continue to sit on our hands and do nothing. We may, if this problem persists, insist on talking about it ad nauseum with the UNSC. Or hold special sessions with both the House and Senate, and if all else fails, toss a coin:

Heads - We will wait and see what Kim does next.
Tails - We will give Kim more time to come to his senses. Surely he will understand he's wrong?



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: dianajune

Very specifically, what option would you propose? Preferably one that doesn't result in a war with China, or the death of hundreds of thousands to millions of South Koreans.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: GraffikPleasure

What do you have to say about NK firing a missle over Japan?


It's not good at all. I'm not saying I agree with it one bit.

But has anyone found out why he did it??? Was it just another test??? A mistake??? An attack???

What has Japan done about it???

I mean if Kimmy wants to be part of the world stage, fine. That also means discussing with other world players about what your intentions are and being responsible for them.

To be a player means knowing the rules about what is allowed and what isn't and being responsible for when you break them. He seems to want to play with the big boys. So let him in the game, let him know the rules that everyone must follow and let him know what happens when you break them.

If he wants to be treated like an equal player, fine. But that also means all players must be playing the same game with the same rules. That goes for us as well. Until we also play by the rules we have for everyone else then we can't say sh*t about anyone else breaking them either.


I agree with everything you said there. Except allowing him into the world stage. A nation should not threaten another and make claims to end said nation, while making nuclear devices. All if which would have to stop for several years for any consideration in my book.

I think Japan is doing what Europe would do... Look to the united states and see what their move will be. Right or wrong, that seems to be what is going on.

The US has played "daddy" for to long for all these nations/NATO.

Also, I don't know why anyone would seriously talk to NK to see what they would want and see where they would meet in the middle on anything. Haven't they lied numerous times in recent years on agreements?

To wrap up, at this time the US needs to continue as they currently are and wait for a first strike, unless it is a nuclear one. If we do attack them before they commit a strike, it better be swift and with numerous evidence.

Personally, I think when any leader says in any fashion or outlet, they are going to annihilate another country, it should be taken as an act of war.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: trollz

What concerns me is what a mess that country is going to be after the nation is destroyed. Now they're contained, and their own problem, but once we drop the full force of freedom on them and they "join the world community", there will be loyalists and those who believe who-knows-what propaganda for generations.

Whoever does the occupying, North Korea is going to be an occupied # hole for decades.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: fleabit
At some point one of two things will happen. Kim will either make a mistake and actually hit Guam or Japan.. at which point he will be toast, or he will have to stop.. because the lack of money will utterly ruin their country. I think the "Let's stop their nuke making ability" ship has probably sailed. Should have been dealt with a long time ago. Only now are they handing out the "harshest sanctions" on their country. Perhaps that should have occurred before they developed nukes.. ICBMs.. etc.


I agree with most of that, but the fact that if anything hot gets fired out of NK, he is dead, and a lot of other people die...
Would he be willing to die for his convictions and ego ? It's the death card conundrum.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Bingo!!

That's exactly what it was/is.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: mOjOm

It wasn't an attack, or even an act of war as many people claim. The apogee puts it well above Japanese airspace. This was just to piss people off.


Whether it's an act of war depends upon the interpretation of the country it's happening to or those willing to defend them, as ultimately they're the ones who will or won't respond. Clearly, Japan either didn't interpret it as an act of war, didn't have the means to respond, or decided to roll the dice on inaction given NK's history.

I still have a very hard time believing that an ICBM flying at that altitude over the continental united states wouldn't be retaliated against with extreme prejudice.

If true, it basically means LIL KIM is doing whatever he thinks he can get away with.

One of these days, he might miscalculate.

And he'd better be careful, because any country that can make a reasonable argument that theirs was a retaliatory strike based upon a reasonable assumption of imminent danger, will effectively erase NK from the map and the international community will stop shy of retaliating on their behalf.



posted on Aug, 30 2017 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: dogstar23

That's why, ideally, reunification with the south is really the only solution that holds any hope for the future of Korea, north or south.

Once the Kims are gone, via a revolution of some sort preferably, that can, possibly, happen.

Outside intervention will, not might, will lead to resentment, and other issues down the road.



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: trollz

The North Korean military just ordered its soldiers to essentially loot corn from farmers fields and to prepare for "imminent war". They were warned that if they dont loot food and it affects them should war break out there will be consequences.

Needless to say the peasants, err north korean people, arent happy with this new policy.



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 02:39 PM
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a reply to: seagull

Reunification is going to be interesting. Bringing North Korea up to the level of just about anyone else is going to cost a pretty penny. Bringing them up to the level of South Korea, if not done carefully, will break the South.



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Truth!

However, if there is a country that can do it, it's South Korea.

Unfortunately, as long as the Kims are in control, it's never going to happen. Because they're not going to be involved in any shape, fashion, or form in governing the united Korea. The South would never allow it.

It will/would take time, patience, and hard work to bring the North out of the 18th century, and into the 21st, but, given what I know about the South Koreans--I have faith they can/could do it.



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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This might be why China "lost" influence with North Korea and why North Korea has threatened China.

This coup plot brought to you courtesy of China.
Kim Jong Un killed uncle, half-brother over 'China coup plot,' report says


North Korean leader Kim Jong Un reportedly had his uncle executed and his half-brother killed in a daring airport assassination earlier this year after learning about a Chinese-backed plan to have him ousted, a Japanese magazine claimed.

Kim took power in 2011 after his father, Kim Jong Il, died. In six years, the leader purged senior officials and relatives allegedly plotting to overthrow him and his regime.

Kim's uncle, Jang Song Thaek, was executed in 2013 when he was accused of being a "traitor" and committing a series of "hideous crimes." His exiled half-brother, Kim Jong Nam, died this year when two women smeared his face with the banned VX nerve agent in Kuala Lumpar airport in Malaysia. Two women are being charged in his death, although they claim they were duped into thinking they were playing a harmless prank for a hidden-camera TV show.

click link for entire drama.



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 03:20 PM
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Interesting message sent to North Korea yesterday. Two B-1s departed Anderson Air Base, flew to Japan, where they picked up two F-15Js, and four F-35Bs. The group then proceeded to the Korean Peninsula, where they picked up four F-15Ks, and performed live fire training at a Korean bombing range.


theaviationist.com... rea/



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 04:03 PM
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I am just waiting to see if the US are capable of shooting Down the NeXT missile comming out of NK.

There will probably be one going over Japan again and another flying over Guam this time.

As a show of force we will see the US add some F-16s to their escort of B1Bs after that.
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posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

WAIT for a missile hit ?



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

For an actual attack or attempted strike, yes.

He hasn't actually launched any actual attacks yet.

Has he even had any nuke tests yet??? I know he claims to have them and claims to have the means to deliver them but has he actually set one off yet as a test???

Anyway. I don't think he's actually going to commit to any kind of attack on anyone. I think he's just bluffing, threatening and pissing people off but I don't think he's actually going to attack anyone for real.



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Still waiting on the materials from Iran by sub apparently,but they have already done so 4 times according to our detection systems



posted on Aug, 31 2017 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Let's just assume that he can actually deliver them and is nuke capable. I don't think he'll actually do it. I could be wrong of course, but he knows the result would be a complete destruction of what little empire he's got going for himself over there. I don't see him being that short sighted. There is no goal to be had.

Right now he's king of his little world even as crazy as his little world is, it's still his to enjoy. He's not going to end all that. The people around him who also enjoy being close to the top also aren't going to just end it either.

I just don't see it happening.



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