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Is sin absolute or relative and is the Bible too soft on sin

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posted on Nov, 2 2017 @ 08:35 PM
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In contrast to your title, I'd say the bible is too hard on sin.

Modern Christianity preaches of eternal hell-fire for just a few short years of sin. The punishment doesn't fit the crime.
To be damned for an eternity in hell would be cruel and torture. The real God would not do such a thing.
The main reason I don't believe in Hell. Or the Biblical God.
edit on 2-11-2017 by Milkweed because: (no reason given)




posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 07:30 PM
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originally posted by: Milkweed
In contrast to your title, I'd say the bible is too hard on sin.

Modern Christianity preaches of eternal hell-fire for just a few short years of sin. The punishment doesn't fit the crime.
To be damned for an eternity in hell would be cruel and torture. The real God would not do such a thing.
The main reason I don't believe in Hell. Or the Biblical God.



The word used for hell in the Bible (the Greek word ᾅδης or háidēs) means grave.

Revelation 20:12-15 KJV "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

As you can see, it makes no sense for death and hell to be cast into the lake of fire, unless hell means grave. There is no hell, only the grave. All who die are asleep until the second coming (or after the thousand year reign) when they are resurrected.

Revelation 21:8 KJV "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

The lake of fire for humans is punishment and eternal destruction. Some burn longer than others, according to their works, but not for eternity. They will burn up and cease to exist, because they turned away from God and chose sin over salvation. Each man makes a choice in his life.

The dead in Christ will be resurrected at the second coming. The wicked that are alive will perish from the upheaval on the earth (earthquakes the likes of which will destroy mountains and make islands disappear. Hail so big it'll pulverize everything. Utter destruction.

Revelation 16:21 KJV "And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent (100lbs!!): and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great."

Speaking of the second coming...

Revelation 6:14 KJV "And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places."
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

The wicked dead will not be resurrected until after the thousand year reign of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 20:5 KJV "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."

The only fiery hell in the Bible is the one after the thousand year reign, when the wicked are resurrected and allowed to roam outside New Jerusalem. Satan is loosed from his prison and gathers the wicked for the final battle, but end up being consumed by the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:7-10 "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."

So, no, fiery hell doesn't exist when you die, you simply sleep and await your judgement. If you're saved, you are resurrected at the second coming. If you are wicked and not saved, you are resurrected after the thousand year reign to face your demise.
edit on 3-11-2017 by Freth because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 6 2017 @ 08:11 AM
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It was the death sentence by stoning for many crimes under the Mosaic law, men were to be the judge jury and executioner. Under the Law Of Christ the judge, jury and executioner would become God, but he would allow the secular lands to set death penalties for capital crimes such as murder.

Jesus ransom sacrifice can cover just about any major and heinous sin now, unless the people are unrepentant practicers of the offences as this scripture states.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9 Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters,adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality,
10 thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.
11 And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean; you have been sanctified; you have been declared righteous in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God.


Yes there are angels in heaven right now that practiced all these things, how did they get to heaven, they realized what they were doing was morally wrong to God, used the ransom of Christ to cover their past sins and just stopped doing those things. When the future judgement the bible speaks of is done by Jesus he will be using this criteria, it is in the future and it will be final. Unlike anybody practicing these thing right now and dies, there death before judgement gives them a second chance, death pays of all sins.

Acts 24:15


And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.


You might wonder if these people are unrighteous they can't get into heaven, so where to the get to come back, well right here on earth is where they get a second chance.



 
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