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Antifa, openly anti capitalist = openly anti American

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posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:40 AM
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I would love to see ANTIFA, BLM, Nazi's, skin heads, what ever show up in my town and attack people....

Here in the REAL South that crap wouldn't last long!! People here don't take to kindly to outsiders hurting there neighbors!!








posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Reminds me of this one:


First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

M. Niemöller

And with more focus on our openly anti-capitalist topic: given the state of pollution we're in, it's probably not a bad idea to re-evaluate capitalism either. I don't get the outrage, none of all that. Is it a morons thread again? It appears that way, which is probably why I'm not really inclined to read more than the last replies.

Just to be perfectly frank with you here.


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posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I wonder if you could check my math.

Less than 50 percent of the people vote who can.

Most presidential elections have been about 50/50

For simplicity let's say 25 percent vot republican 25 democrat...out of them let's 15 percent are true believers...on either side.

Nearly everyone polled says congress sucks.

Why do people think there are so many radical ideas and attack each other over parties they don't even like.

A very small portion of eligible voters even believe their own party rhetoric. Yet here we are divided

This isn't an attack I just figured you are centrist enough to check my math and also share my wonder of how 70 percent of the normal people get led around by nuts politically speaking.
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posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults




Think I'll take the private ownership.


Look up social democracy now! You're close and I think your mind will be blown, private property wise.

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posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: luthier


So basically it's the same college kid liberal thing that has existed since universities?

Got it


Ya basically... The difference today is that colleges figured out that not everyone can compete for the degrees that by your junior year businesses come to you, so they invented degrees that everyone can achieve being true capitalist in their little liberal society bubble. Some poor sucker gets their degree and 60k in debt saying here I am world and they only hear crickets chirping.

This kind of makes them salty to say the least...



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

Sure. But maybe the parents are also to blame. Sometimes two people constantly working to have toys for your kids doesn't produce the results you expected. I remember kids going nuts in Seattle when I went to college over the WTO. When my mom went to college they spit on soldiers. The prefrontal cortex retardation has something to do with it.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: luthier

A very small portion of eligible voters even believe their own party rhetoric. Yet here we are divided


That is why old Trump won...

Why do people get reelected in congress for like 30 years with approval rates in the teens... I have always said that we deserve what we get since at the end of the day we are the ones that keep voting the same crap back in over and over. The only protesting we should do is protest why we are all so stupid in the first place...lol



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: luthier

A very small portion of eligible voters even believe their own party rhetoric. Yet here we are divided


That is why old Trump won...

Why do people get reelected in congress for like 30 years with approval rates in the teens... I have always said that we deserve what we get since at the end of the day we are the ones that keep voting the same crap back in over and over. The only protesting we should do is protest why we are all so stupid in the first place...lol


I guess we aren't so far off. I believe in Carlin as well. Take a look at us idiots and you see where they come from. YouTube is full of them.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Gryphon66

I wonder if you could check my math.

Less than 50 percent of the people vote who can.

Most presidential elections have been about 50/50

For simplicity let's say 25 percent vot republican 25 democrat...out of them let's 15 percent are true believers...on either side.

Nearly everyone polled says congress sucks.

Why do people think there are so many radical ideas and attack each other over parties they don't even like.

A very small portion of eligible voters even believe their own party rhetoric. Yet here we are divided


Your math is generally accurate. Recent surveys put most Americans identifying as "Independent."

In the last election, 46% voted for Trump, 54% voted against him. In 2012, about 51% voted for Obama, a little over 47% voted for Romney. In 2008 52% voted for Obama, 46% voted for McCain.

Partisans gonna partisan. As you know, I don't really believe in two "sides." I tend to argue against lies in favor of truth, so in the last decade or so, I end up arguing against what the "right-wing" media promotes.

I believe that many Americans, if not most, want to be able to live well, take care of their loved ones, and move forward.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: luthier

Sure. But maybe the parents are also to blame. Sometimes two people constantly working to have toys for your kids doesn't produce the results you expected. I remember kids going nuts in Seattle when I went to college over the WTO. When my mom went to college they spit on soldiers. The prefrontal cortex retardation has something to do with it.


I live kind of a 50s lifestyle...wife doesn't need to work so she has been able devote a lot of effort in our children like preparing good healthy food their whole lives, and being the typical soccer mom. We started late in life to, mid 30s to start having kids so we were better positioned for success. I tell my kids when they do good and I also tell them when they suck, I let them know what the real world is like, one that will chew you up and spit you out.

I see other younger families where both parents work hard and so you have kids raising kids that live on a diet of McDs etc. Can't be good...They also grow up in the world where "we can't keep score" "we do not think a grade is good for them" etc and so the kids never fail or achieve and they grow up way to fast.

So who is at fault, not sure... but we end up with some real narcissistic losers...lol One day they will grow up and be that old fat bald guy complaining about the next gen. Right now they are a pain though...



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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I'm in favor of mixed economies like most informed individuals who live in modern democracies.

Your posts, so often, strive to pomposely critique others when you're so blantantly mistaken these flubs and failures result in little more than raucous laughter on the other sides of the screen.

Still please continue: laughter is good for the soul they say.


Again, looking in capitalist societies so you can pilfer them for socialism is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:02 PM
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I agree.

And the thing to remember is those 47 51 splits are of half or less of eligible voters. I would assume the other 50 either doesn't care or thinks it's meaningless to vote so..

The idea that America is so divided is actually a bit of a psyop myth. The polar opposites are divided and more of them are getting elected as independents get disgusted or swing votes.

Yet MA and VT seen as ultra liberal still manage to vote for republicans for Governor. If the math the media wants you to believe is correct that would never happen.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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Can we just buy them all plane tickets to Venezuela and let them go enjoy their workers Paradise?



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66



I'm in favor of mixed economies like most informed individuals who live in modern democracies.

Your posts, so often, strive to pomposely critique others when you're so blantantly mistaken these flubs and failures result in little more than raucous laughter on the other sides of the screen.

Still please continue: laughter is good for the soul they say.


Again, looking in capitalist societies so you can pilfer them for socialism is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.


Funny, the stupidest thing I've heard today is that the USSR didn't have trade unions and that socialists/communists have nothing to do with the development of trade unions ... and that's on top of a heap of other stupid comments.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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Except it's you, who said that they don't have unions in socialist countries. Moving goal posts again?


Yeah I concede that point. For instance in Venezuala, trade unions were under increasing attack by the socialist government. In no way does that mean trade unions are socialist in nature.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:10 PM
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Funny, the stupidest thing I've heard today is that the USSR didn't have trade unions and that socialists/communists have nothing to do with the development of trade unions ... and that's on top of a heap of other stupid comments.


I concede that point. The fact remains that trade unions developed in capitalist countries, are a capitalist invention, and were not the only reasons working conditions improved.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: luthier

I agree that it's a psyop myth, but that psyop is old as sin.

Media has replaced religion as the opiate of the masses.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66




Funny, the stupidest thing I've heard today is that the USSR didn't have trade unions and that socialists/communists have nothing to do with the development of trade unions ... and that's on top of a heap of other stupid comments.


I concede that point. The fact remains that trade unions developed in capitalist countries, are a capitalist invention, and were not the only reasons working conditions improved.


Only if you squint at history and claim that the medieval guilds were the source of trade unions.

Make a specific argument with backup, or you're just continuing to sputter your opinion which has been demonstrated to be false.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
Can we just buy them all plane tickets to Venezuela and let them go enjoy their workers Paradise?


Nah, we'd rather return democracy and freedom than support the constant illegal-warfare subversion of democracy and war crimes waged in the interests of companies instead of people.

We think that humanity can do, should do and ought to do better than spending trillions to fund the attrocites and tens of millions of lives lost, that rob everyone of life, liberty, happiness to an elite few.
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posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

As a wrestling coach I have had parents stop practice and tell me how unfair it was there kid was getting smashed. The first time it happened I was speechless, I honestly had no idea how someone could sign there kid up for a fringe sport like wrestling and not know it's uh,..character building quality. To Make worse it was a drill so each kid was doing reps of ten of a sprawl defensive move. She ended up taking the kid out when I explained he just didn't have the technique yet. Like day two of this kid ever wrestling.

That sums up my expirience with about 20 percent of parents who sign their kids up to uhhh wrestling where your goal is to beat someone and there isn't a sole to blame for your loss. Hell half the time the losses where kids come back from gettimg smashed and almost win are best lessons. Learning how to deal with defeat and almost winning is the most valuable lesson I have ever given kids. It either makes them motivated or realize they aren't the best and it's OK.

Or they never come back. Which since hundreds of USA wrestling programs have closed I would say happens often.
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