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Antifa, openly anti capitalist = openly anti American

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posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: toysforadults

I agree that they're anti-american, but where do you see that they are anti-capitalist?
Many Antifa groups self identify as far left anarcho- communist groups..




posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: TheTory

Except it's you, who said that they don't have unions in socialist countries. Moving goal posts again?

 


Iceland is anti-capitalist as well, so fcking what?


"Where everyone else bailed out the bankers and made the public pay the price, Iceland let the banks go bust and actually expanded its social safety net," noted Paul Krugman, admiringly. Iceland, he found, had demonstrated the "case for letting creditors of private banks gone wild eat the losses".

Not too big to fail

Hysterical Red Scare Bollocks keeps rolling strong on ATS, eh? Morons...



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Gryphon66

That seems to be your forte, stealing elements from capitalist societies and saying they are socialist, then using Marxist and communist theory to justify them. But of course the fact that unions developed in capitalist economies discredits all you copying and pasting. It turns out you're more capitalist than you let on and don't even realize it.


I'm in favor of mixed economies like most informed individuals who live in modern democracies.

Your posts, so often, strive to pomposely critique others when you're so blantantly mistaken these flubs and failures result in little more than raucous laughter on the other sides of the screen.

Still please continue: laughter is good for the soul they say.
edit on 29-8-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Spelling



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
I see the "freedom of speech" and "people can believe whatever they want" martyrs who have been advocating and apologizing for Nazis and White Supremacists terrorists for two weeks just can't take a little communism, eh?

Well, not even communism really ... just anti-capitalism. Oh the wailing-and-gnashing of dental plates!

And praise for Joe McCarthy as well ... yep, the more things change, the more they remain the same.

All advocates for MAGA who want to return to the good ol' days of segregation and McCarthyism just step right up.

Just remember ... America First!




Nice tactic. Now anyone who says "America first" is obviously a Klan member. We already know that MAGA is racists to the core. Out of curiosity, once the race card has been played, is there more, or is that the last ditch effort? I ask in sincerity as that is usually the dying breath.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: network dude



All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome.

G. Orwell



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: network dude

If you can't see clearly what is happening in these threads, you can't see.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: TheTory

Except it's you, who said that they don't have unions in socialist countries. Moving goal posts again?

 


Iceland is anti-capitalist as well, so fcking what?


"Where everyone else bailed out the bankers and made the public pay the price, Iceland let the banks go bust and actually expanded its social safety net," noted Paul Krugman, admiringly. Iceland, he found, had demonstrated the "case for letting creditors of private banks gone wild eat the losses".

Not too big to fail

Hysterical Red Scare Bollocks keeps rolling strong on ATS, eh? Morons...


Are you saying Iceland doesn't have private property rights?



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

They are Marxist.


They are anarchist mostly. Under Obama they were the 99%ers and other like groups. I think most come from a "participation trophy" life and found that the real world can be rather harsh and so they want a game reset....



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

Well, if they weren't anti-capitalist I would say they are arnarchist but without private property rights what else could you be besides the extreme of socialisn or communism where the state owns everything?



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

I'm in favor of mixed economies like most informed individuals who live in modern democracies.


There should be a balance nicely positioned between Communism and Corporatism never letting the Government or private sector overtake one another.


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posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: network dude

You can say America First anytime you like. At least now, you know where it comes from (the second iteration of the KKK was very nationalist) when used as a political slogan.

The only folks I ever hear saying that all Trump supporters are racists ... are Trump supporters.

The "race card"? How 1990 of you. Can we expect to hear about "welfare queens" in your next historical perspective?



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
This group composed of filth has no idea what they are asking for.

First off, do any of you even know what the hell you mean when you say you are anti capitalist???


Please explain how "trickle down economics" has worked for the middle and lower classes? You seem to have all the answers, so I await your answer with baited breath.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Gryphon66

I'm in favor of mixed economies like most informed individuals who live in modern democracies.


There should be a balance nicely positioned between Communism and Corporatism never letting the Government or private sector overtake one another.



Exactly.




posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Read the article again? You guys talk in black and white absolutes, which is de facto highly moronic. Ever heard of the social democracy? It's socialism in a nutshell, right?
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posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: toysforadults

Read the article again? You guys talk in black and white absolutes, which is de facto highly moronic. Ever heard of the word social democracy? It's socialism in a nutshell, right?


Perhaps that's why the Nazis killed so many of those social democrats?

Along with socialists, communists, liberals and trade unionists of course ... not to mention millions of others.

Now, who does that remind us all of, hmm?

Star for you.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Definition of socialisn.


TextCapitalism is an economic system and an ideology based on private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.


Think I'll take the private ownership.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Xtrozero

Well, if they weren't anti-capitalist I would say they are arnarchist but without private property rights what else could you be besides the extreme of socialisn or communism where the state owns everything?


Not sure but they are both anti-government AND anti-capitalist. The reason why they are anti-capitalist is because their colleges sold them a pig in a poke in you give us 60 to 100k and we will give you a degree that will land you a starting job of 100k per year. What the colleges didn't tell them was that many degrees are not worth the paper they are printed on in the private sector other than to suggest a person has education past high school. All of this would get you head fryer at BK...

So they started with the rich was holding them down, need to redistribute wealth etc. since their colleges can't be wrong or would not out right lie to them. Today we have Trump and that gives them one more thing to complain about...They are very liberal so they needed to wait until the right took power. I would bet though if Hillary won they would still be the 99%ers.


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posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Gryphon66

I'm in favor of mixed economies like most informed individuals who live in modern democracies.


There should be a balance nicely positioned between Communism and Corporatism never letting the Government or private sector overtake one another.



Exactly.



Wait how do you get a star for just saying "Exactly" I get none for the original post lol



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

So basically it's the same college kid liberal thing that has existed since universities?

Got it



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

LOL ... I stopped paying attention to the stars ... there's zero logic in it.

You got one from me.



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