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Antifa, openly anti capitalist = openly anti American

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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 09:30 PM
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a reply to: Regnor

Hmm. No.

Let me ask you this, if you seen ISIS stickers or someone walking around with ISIS flags how would you react?

For the record I can't stand Neo Nazi's either but I've never walked around and seen open Nazi's.
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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Trump reversed the ruling by Obama about military equipment for the Police force.
I wonder if he's preparing for the inevitable showdown?
FEMA camps and microchips could be on their way in.

With the dems looking like imploding, they won't likely get in again so if Trump gets another term and Antifa are still pushing they might just end up being the catalyst for the NWO.

I don't think most of them realise they're just being used even if some think they're freedom fighters.
They'll end up getting martial law if they carry on but I'm guessing that's what all this division is for.
Hillary losing threw a spanner in the works so this is Plan B and everyone will blame Trump.

Might sound unlikely but I'm hypothesizing here. Its obvious that the globalists are ruffled by Trump so they're going for order through chaos. Unless, of course, Trumps in on it and that was the plan all along.

He can't just let things continue as they are but as soon as he cracks down everyone who opposed him will have an excuse to say "see, I told you he was a fascist"! I think that's why the swamp's not been drained yet, because he'd end up with no one left in government.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

I'd think they're an idiot



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 09:46 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
This group composed of filth has no idea what they are asking for.

First off, do any of you even know what the hell you mean when you say you are anti capitalist???

Let me clue you in, capitalism is about private property, the free market and contract enforcement ok.



cap·i·tal·ism
ˈkapədlˌizəm/Submit
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.


Here is the exact definition from Google. So apparently these nitwits want to have state owned commerce? How has that gone, can anyone give me an example?? I mean seriously... have any of you thought this through at all?

Constitution Party


The 4th Amendment states:

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”




The 5th Amendment further protects property, by stating:

“No person shall be … deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”






John Adams proclaimed:
“The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist.”





Conversely, Karl Marx, the promoter of the virulent form of socialism called communism said: “In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.”


I for one am sick of these communist/ Marxist trying to destroy our country in the name of Anti Fascism. These people are such useful idiots running around attacking anyone for any reason and the Mayor's of these communities sitting back and telling them to do nothing.

They are openly anti American, anti constitutionalist and anti capitalist. These idiots want to destroy our country and it's about time we put a stop to it.



Hey free speech right? It's free speech when fascists have white supremacist rallies it's free speech with commies.

Why do all these jerks pretend they are excersising free speech when all they want is to destroy it. The catch 22 is they are allowed to push the limits and possible create sensorship because even discussing free speech having limits is a sin. Even if you have a rally to promote the idea of supressing Jewish votes or scamming the wealthy. It's very important you just give a blanket pass as long as you say the words free speech.
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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: Tulpa




I don't think most of them realise they're just being used even if some think they're freedom fighters.
They'll end up getting martial law if they carry on but I'm guessing that's what all this division is for.
Hillary losing threw a spanner in the works so this is Plan B and everyone will blame Trump.

Might sound unlikely but I'm hypothesizing here. Its obvious that the globalists are ruffled by Trump so they're going for order through chaos. Unless, of course, Trumps in on it and that was the plan all along.


You know what, you are right. The NWO wants us to fight back.

Problem reaction solution. They are hoping we get angry.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 09:49 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Or its foreign powers trying to destabilize the us and we fall for it. Hard to tell with so many subversive plots.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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Antifa, openly anti capitalist = openly anti American

YES THEY ARE.

Anti American.

Anti capitalism.

ALTER Globalism.

en.wikipedia.org...(United_States)

AKA the loony toony far LEFT.

Admirers of Che,Stalin,Mao.



its adherents are mostly socialists, anarchists, and communists who




According to The Economist, the "word Antifa has its roots in Anti-Fascist Action,a name taken up by European political movements in the 1930s"



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: toysforadults

Or its foreign powers trying to destabilize the us and we fall for it. Hard to tell with so many subversive plots.


Yes, very hard to tell who is part of a foreign intel operation or what.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 09:54 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Can we find a field where the two far sides can just slug it our and be sterilized. I know it's authoritarian but I honestly think it's best for the people who want to just drink a coffee on the way to work.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 09:57 PM
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What part about them being Communist don't you understand?

HELL some their people openly admit it. Some of their other signs have a website address to a Union run sight.

This is the seeds planted in the US by the old USSR. Tail gunner Joe McCarthy had it right.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 09:58 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: toysforadults

Or its foreign powers trying to destabilize the us and we fall for it. Hard to tell with so many subversive plots.


Yes, very hard to tell who is part of a foreign intel operation or what.


I basically have become antipartisan. I purposely try and destroy rhetoric. The scripts people read are incredible.

The far sides are such a minor population. Most libs and conservative have a beer after work and manage to be friends. At least in my world. I prefer people who don't recite fox news or msnbc bullet points though so maybe I am weird.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 10:21 PM
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I see the "freedom of speech" and "people can believe whatever they want" martyrs who have been advocating and apologizing for Nazis and White Supremacists terrorists for two weeks just can't take a little communism, eh?

Well, not even communism really ... just anti-capitalism. Oh the wailing-and-gnashing of dental plates!

And praise for Joe McCarthy as well ... yep, the more things change, the more they remain the same.

All advocates for MAGA who want to return to the good ol' days of segregation and McCarthyism just step right up.

Just remember ... America First!




posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 10:47 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

The true purpose of Antifa is to remind you sheep how much you're supposed to hate Commies... and it's working like a charm.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:07 PM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: toysforadults

Or its foreign powers trying to destabilize the us and we fall for it.


Lol y'all still don't get it do you?

It's global powers herding us like cattle, with Antifa on one horse, BLM on another, the White Nationalists on another, etc...

all working together to steer the masses into the #ing slaughter house.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:10 PM
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You do realize that right wingers are openly anti capitalists too. You guys are just too dumb to realize this fact.



originally posted by: toysforadults
This group composed of filth has no idea what they are asking for.

First off, do any of you even know what the hell you mean when you say you are anti capitalist???

Let me clue you in, capitalism is about private property, the free market and contract enforcement ok.



cap·i·tal·ism
ˈkapədlˌizəm/Submit
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.


Here is the exact definition from Google. So apparently these nitwits want to have state owned commerce? How has that gone, can anyone give me an example?? I mean seriously... have any of you thought this through at all?

Constitution Party


The 4th Amendment states:

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”




The 5th Amendment further protects property, by stating:

“No person shall be … deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”






John Adams proclaimed:
“The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist.”





Conversely, Karl Marx, the promoter of the virulent form of socialism called communism said: “In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.”


I for one am sick of these communist/ Marxist trying to destroy our country in the name of Anti Fascism. These people are such useful idiots running around attacking anyone for any reason and the Mayor's of these communities sitting back and telling them to do nothing.

They are openly anti American, anti constitutionalist and anti capitalist. These idiots want to destroy our country and it's about time we put a stop to it.


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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:21 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

As far as Antifa go, there's already a thread about how openly not-patriotic the anarchists among them are which shouldn't exactly be a secret to anyone considering what an anarchist believes.

That said, since when did love of capitalism become synonymous with patriotism? I often wonder, looking at the evolution of economic systems, why so many people are readily conditioned to believe that capitalism is the end all of economic systems?

Didn't I hear you say you were a libertarian or some such? The distance between libertarian and anarchist isn't all that far. You've got minarchists and anarcho-capitalists spanning the gap. There's probably some of both among the Antifa.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:36 PM
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There is one thing that both fascists and communists have in common, and that is hatred of liberalism. The fact that the conditions of workers got better as capitalism grew basically destroyed their theories. But people still believe in them for some reason.



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:36 AM
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A lot of Libertarians and similar are anti capitalism that we are under. Doesn't make them anti capitalist or even socialists or communists.

Various theorists have espoused legal philosophies similar to anarcho-capitalism. The first person to use the term, however, was Murray Rothbard, who in the mid-20th century synthesized elements from the Austrian School of economics, classical liberalism, and 19th-century American individualist anarchists Lysander Spooner and Benjamin Tucker (while rejecting their labor theory of value and the norms they derived from it).[6] A Rothbardian anarcho-capitalist society would operate under a mutually agreed-upon libertarian "legal code which would be generally accepted, and which the courts would pledge themselves to follow."[7] This pact would recognize self-ownership and the non-aggression principle (NAP), although methods of enforcement vary.

Source
The Austrian school of economics opposes the Keynesian Crony Capitalism that the US is under.




posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults

I take it you've become wildly successful and rich 'cuz capitalism?



posted on Aug, 29 2017 @ 12:50 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Real, dyed-in-the-wool anarchists don't believe in property ownership. Property = slavery to them.

When you "own" something that gives you leverage and control over others who do not own what you have.

If true anarchy reigned supreme no one would own material objects of any kind. Everything belongs to everyone.

Sounds kinda sci-fi Star Trek "utopia" to me.




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