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ANTIFA, The Patriots (they're not)

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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: matafuchs

I'm sorry ... are you advocating the murder of Americans just because you don't approve of their politics?


Stating the inevitable outcome is not advocating anything.

You knew that didn't you, because I have seen you pull that trick a few other times......

If you don't think at some point grownups are finally going to get pissed of enough to discipline the below type of undisciplined and un-American behavior, YOU are living in the same kind of bubble these violent idiots are.


edit on 28-8-2017 by seeker1963 because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: matafuchs

I'm sorry ... are you advocating the murder of Americans just because you don't approve of their politics?


Stating the inevitable outcome is not advocating anything.

You knew that didn't you, because I have seen you pull that trick a few other times......


I believe that Matafuchs can answer for themselves.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Nope. I am trying to warn them what is going to happen if they keep going down that road. I state right in my thread I am not for violence.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: matafuchs

I'm sorry ... are you advocating the murder of Americans just because you don't approve of their politics?


Stating the inevitable outcome is not advocating anything.

You knew that didn't you, because I have seen you pull that trick a few other times......


I believe that Matafuchs can answer for themselves.


It's a open thread so deal with it.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

These kids are playing a game and most are pawns. One of them is going to kill a protester and go to prison and get passed around till he is found dead in his cell either by another inmate or hanging.

The people they hate, the KKK and the Neo NAzis, they are the ones who sit around and talk about what is 'going' to happen. They are not pushing it to happen. So, when people like AntiFa start causing issues like this it will make hate groups grow, not subside, and eventually a few guys with AR-15's will show up at a protest and you will see carnage.

Do I want this? No. If anything I was trying to talk to them like the children they are to let them know this is not a joke.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Gryphon66

Nope. I am trying to warn them what is going to happen if they keep going down that road. I state right in my thread I am not for violence.



Well, actually, this is what you started out with:


originally posted by: matafuchs
So, if you 'anarchists' are against the current form of government, and you have no 'central' leadership, give nothing to the community and have been creating violence I guess it is time to start taking you out one by one.


Bold emphasis mine.

You continued with this:



The time for militias in this country to take one for team as they have stated so often they would has come.


These are declarative statements. you say clearly in the first sentence that because you personally don't agree with their politics, it's time to start "taking them out one by one."

In the second sentence I quoted directly from you, you state that its time for the militias to act, clearly to enforce your desire to take out Americans.

You can't say it's time to kill and at the same time say you don't like violence. That's hypocritical at best.

I can believe that you didn't intend to state your beliefs this forcefully, but what you said is quite clear.
edit on 28-8-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs




Mass hysteria
In sociology and psychology, mass hysteria (also known as collective hysteria, group hysteria, or collective obsessional behavior) is a phenomenon that transmits collective delusions of threats, whether real or imaginary, through a population in society as a result of rumors and fear.

Maybe they are mentally ill?



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: zosimov

funny because we don't have one...

*In before "Muh Communist Manifesto"



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Nazi/White Supremacist thugs and terrorist have already killed a protestor. They have wounded many others. They are being apprehended for merciless beatings and violence.

I believe that the better part of your nature doesn't want this ... but what you said was different.

Thanks for the clarification.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

I don't think it's necessarily surprising that media outlets would be calling out anarchists for violence. What is surprising to me is that some in the media are starting to form a more nuanced understanding of what's going on, and actually beginning to identify some of the people on the other side.

This has been an ongoing thing on the West Coast for years, it's only getting attention now because it's occurring in the context of mainstream politics. Even then, the coverage is lacking.

The media as a whole has dropped the ball, over and over again, particularly the national media. If you'll notice, the violent clashes are highly concentrated in a few areas. Most of them in central and southern California with Berkeley becoming the center of national focus. (but also Portland, Seattle — Olympia once I thnk —to a lesser extent and Phoenix, AZ, which is about a 5 hour drive from LA)

This is like the 5th incident in Berkeley since February? There have been clashes in UC Irvine, Laguna Beach, Long Beach and Costa Mesa, San Bernardino — all within about 50 miles of LA. That's the real epicenter. It's not a coincidence that Antifa showed up and pushed out Joey Gibson, Irma Hinojosa and "Johnny Benitez" — who all showed up, made to sure to broadcast it on social media that they'd be there, and then waded out in the middle of the crowd.

There's nothing arbitrary about what's going on. It might seem that way but that's because the reporting has been glossing over everything but these are groups of people that are well known to one another.

It's amazing to me that the whole country is getting drawn into what amounts to political hooliganism between two groups who don't number more than a few hundred people combined.
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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: crayzeed

My rights are not dictated by pieces of paper or tyrants who try and authorise them



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

No, because Antifa doesn't exist, it is a name in which people synthesis, there is no manifesto, the goal is only to be anti-fascist, individually we have our own goals, as anarchists or whoever is taking part in the actions have their own goals



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:14 PM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: crayzeed

My rights are not dictated by pieces of paper or tyrants who try and authorise them



Lol.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Many comrades have died, many have been sent to prison, look at comrades around the world.

we reject the submissiveness of fear and contentment with authority



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Wow, that's got to be by far the most ignorant thing I've ever read. How you can label the tens of thousands who died fighting to stop facism and nazism across Europe before WW2 as 'scared bitches and brats' is some seriously neo-nazi nonsense right there - Guess your parents never told you to read a book as a kid.

If you bothered to read things instead of making them up you'd realise it was standing on your own two feet, may get stabbed, may get killed by police but what you won't do is stand back and watch on while they invade your community and single out the defenceless.

For example in the UK pre WW2, the Brownshirts led by Max Osley were huge supporters of hitler, nazism and killing Jews and the UK became dangerously close to actually allying with Hitler. Newspapers such as teh Daily Mail were writing about how amazing Hitler was and talk of concentration camps or erradicating Jews were pure myths and chinese whispers.

So instead of talking nonsense why not look at raw footage - www.youtube.com... and hopefully you'll have the decency to retract your ill-informed rant that onluy shiows how clueless you are about it as you sound like a neo-nazi supporter to anyone who knows about facism and AntiFA.

Alternatively I'm all ears to see how most of the East end of London, came out to stop Nazis from their planned attack on Jewish neighbourhood, got together, blocked the roads, formed a human wall to - and beat the living # out of them over a several hour standoff and constant attack by the police (police killed around 80 antifa and injured over 300 but they still would not let Facism, Nazism and the Holocaust happen are any of the things you say.

No, it's the ability to have spent time understanding what antifacism is. It means you are against facism and prepared to take direct action against facist groups to prevent them from bullying whatever easy target they've chosen at the time. I'm antiFA but I'm pacifist, I fight fascists via legal means by going to the counci and inspecting records. When racist groups are doing marches, we make a few racists comments on fake facebook etc profiles then get invited to join them - once given time and location we get there an hour or two early to keep tabs on who's about and if trouble may happen, and keep the immature young uns well away so the racist group ends up so drunk that if/when they get to the designated zone - they've had so much beer their intended demo is just a loads of alcholics being sick on the street or pissing up walls while they slur they're defending British values.

Also I'm not dumb enough to think just because someone is part of a group that has origins in facism or racism that they them selves are racist - for example went into a biker pub and one guy was wearing an EDL patch, called him up on it, was a bit of raised voices for a tiny while as he hated racists, he just liked his pints and got into it. In the end he tore it off and I bought him a pint to sorry thanks.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

We are not trying to get you to fight with us, you can fall on your own sword if you wish to be submissive, we are not trying to install politicians and platforms, we seek to abolish all forms of politics, we are not trying to install new economic structures, but abolish them and the authority that is inherent to them

we are not trying to force anyone to believe what we believe or to fight with us, we are not white knights and saviours

Fascists didn't have power, Nazi's didn't have power before, but it grew, it grew through political platforms and their "rights" to recruit and assemble and organise

they don't have power now, no one said they did, but Anti-fascism has a goal of stopping it before it begins, that is all



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:22 PM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX
Oh yes they are. When you stand up in front of that judge those pieces of paper can stop you going to jail or stop you going to the electric chair. But when your tyrant gets into power toe his line or a bullet awaits you.
You still don't get it. Go and talk to any surviving old Russian, he'll put you straight on just what you can expect and it ain't living on a farm growing you own food and being left alone to do "your own thing". This is NOT childs play, it's not a video game. It goes far beyond what you or your friends want.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: bastion

What in the blue hell do people fighting against actual fascism in WW2 Europe have to do with entitled bitches imagining fascism in 2017 America and using those delusions as an excuse to riot and tantrum?



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: peter vlar

Oh my GOD you think tendencies are PUNKS alone?
I'm a HEAD banger and I found my niche in the cav for the nationstate which I preserve by FORCE if necessary.
MY version of history is MOSTLY conspiratorial because THAT is what I tracked.
THESE are useful idiots alone with no national interest or capabilities beyond the MSM and Soro's cash fund,they have less numbers than the KKK outside their protective environments and can't express power with anything but a little self victimization as the primary weapon which is getting MORE and more enticing to those prone to reactions by egos.
The people who are capable of professional violence can see a baited trap because CIVILIANS cannot out think us tactically OR militarily and when they ATTEMPT to do so it is only an insult to our intelligence.
DOUBLY so when civilians demand their guesses are correct.
We DON'T require explanations from EITHER side as to what is happening with liberals they have been lying since they BECAME political.
Malcom X covered it...www.youtube.com...
RACE?
nonexistent to real Americans, its what you do and who you are alone,the ONLY people skin is important for are into cash and power over the BLACK man
Mexicans are still figuring out ILLEGAL, as are the left,it's being clarified, so now they are minimized as a party without minority votes to bolster their power.
Anarchy?
I 'd laugh but THAT joke is as OLD as Rat Fink ,when it BURNED out the first time .
If the COPS don't have control ,RUN in fear because PLAN B is NOT going make victims of its participants but IT may set hippies back to BEATNIK stage with their Bernie fans.

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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: crayzeed

We do not seek to be the aftermaths of Authoritarian Russia, Lenin and Stalin were both Authoritarian dictators.

have you read about Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine (The Black Army)

anarchists have always fought with Marxists/Leninists/Maoists and Socialist because we do not seek to install dictators, but to completely abolish the State and authority now.

this is no game to us either




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