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ANTIFA, The Patriots (they're not)

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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 10:42 AM
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a reply to: butcherguy


Interesting that the WaPo and Slate differentiates between antifa and anarchists and said both were present... and violent.
The ABC article places the blame on just anarchists and doesn't mention antifa... unless I missed it in there.


I noticed that also, but then reminded myself that this is unchartered territory for the MSM... either they're just now struggling to figure out who's who, or just struggling to figure out how to spin this. We'll have to give it some time I think and see just where they go from here.

Interesting times, eh???




posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

ETA: Sorry I'm not attacking the OP, just the way this was allowed to happen in US politics without anyone either realising or trying to stop the bleeding obvious decent into a load of clueless people who follow the same political philosophy being at loggerheads as they thought they'd name their gang patriot or progressive' and are too busy fighting each other to realise the only thing they're they're achieving is more profit for the Freemarket Poltical and Cultural advertisers - just skip the bull# next election please and have ronald mc donald vs the burger king.

Well obviously they're going to be Patriots. Patriotism/nationalism is far-right/facism. It's like proclaiming cats aren't dogs.

It's pretty hard to be nationalistic when the whole point is to break down borders and divisions to stamp facism out - litterally aswel as figuratively.

Admittedly the US versions are bunch of braindead morons, same as the right because no one in the US seems to be aware of the political spectrum, the reasons you've been in decline for the last 50 years and how there's litterally nothing your country can do to stop it as due to the static culture you've voted, screamed and shouted must be introduced as clearly no one read Bernaise or B F Skinner.

Instead the whole of American poltics is just a load of people using words like progressive and conservative, radical etc...when that was stopped in 1954 under Straussian politics.

Top tip: Read boks, educate yourselves. Hopefully one day Americans will grasp there's not been a difference in US politics since politics was reduced to imaginary algorithms and mechanised systems so computers could create data and advice, policy etc... that isinherently wrong and flawed.

Because those inherent flaws were introduced and us citizens became us cents, the US has been ruled by one government only - the maximimising algorithm to deprive you of as possible but sti

As a result America and Americans no longer have any knowlege of politics as a whole, no one has any capacity to come up with a way to escape it as and there's nothing any
Maybe instead of calling yourselves land of the free, you should change the name to land of the delusional as all you actually are is a homogenous group have bought the same idea from 1912 that's been repacked and rebranded under Free Market Democracy and Culture.

In the UK stuff like fighting over who has the best trainers stops when you're around 9.
edit on 28-8-2017 by bastion because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
"Antifa" is not a "Organisation" as it is a bunch of tendencies that come together


We've seen this. It appears to be the tendency to possess an extra chromosome, the tendency to expect everybody else to provide for you, the tendency to need attention, the tendency to be a bitch, the tendency to be a walking contradiction, the tendency to throw tantrums, the tendency to not understand the most rudimentary portions of economics, the tendency to whine about societal norms while threatening violence against them, the tendency to be a bitch, the tendency to cover your face during their little demonstrations because they're so scared, the tendency to be a total attention whore, the tendency to be mostly useless to the world around them, the tendency to talk a big game while playing very little until the numbers game is in their advantage, did I mention the tendency to be a bitch?

ANTIFAP doesn't impress me. It is what happens when children aren't told "no" while growing up and suddenly LARPING has lost it's edge, so they seek out new ways to fill that attention void.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

the thing is, we are not trying to impose our 'will' or authority but to abolish all forms of authority, all forms of the submissive mind, and corrupted civilisation

we are not trying to 'sell' anyone anything or install new platforms or parties, we seek to steal back our individual liberation without permission



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Who would ever call anarchists "patriots?" They don't believe in hierarchy or non-voluntary association at all so they don't believe in states nor the products of them, like borders. And these are definitely anarchists. If the chant didn't give it away, the flag should:




posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

We are not trying to impress anyone, the less 'attention' we have the better, unless you are talking about the coffee Shop anarchists who are in name and image only.

The rest of us oppose the media attention, the pictures, and recordings etc



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Boadicea

the thing is, we are not trying to impose our 'will' or authority but to abolish all forms of authority, all forms of the submissive mind, and corrupted civilisation



..and just how do plan to accomplish this if not by imposition?



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Finally, someone gets it



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:03 AM
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a reply to: zosimov

These are not things you discuss on a Conspiracy message board



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
"Antifa" is not a "Organisation" as it is a bunch of tendencies that come together


We've seen this. It appears to be the tendency to possess an extra chromosome, the tendency to expect everybody else to provide for you, the tendency to need attention, the tendency to be a bitch, the tendency to be a walking contradiction, the tendency to throw tantrums, the tendency to not understand the most rudimentary portions of economics, the tendency to whine about societal norms while threatening violence against them, the tendency to be a bitch, the tendency to cover your face during their little demonstrations because they're so scared, the tendency to be a total attention whore, the tendency to be mostly useless to the world around them, the tendency to talk a big game while playing very little until the numbers game is in their advantage, did I mention the tendency to be a bitch?

ANTIFAP doesn't impress me. It is what happens when children aren't told "no" while growing up and suddenly LARPING has lost it's edge, so they seek out new ways to fill that attention void.


Is it just me or does Antifap make Westboro Baptist Church look like moderates?



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

Don't worry, I've read the manual.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX
Listen very closely what I have to say to you. You are only allowed to write on here, spout your ideology and demonstrate (peacefully or not) because you live in a country and political system that protects your right to do these things. BBUUUTTT>
If or when you get your wish, you will go against the wall like everyone else and it won't do you any good to cry "but I'm not with that crowd" the bullet will hurt just as much.
Or are you that deluded to realise that your actions will lead to a lot of death for innocent people.

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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Boadicea

the thing is, we are not trying to impose our 'will' or authority but to abolish all forms of authority, all forms of the submissive mind, and corrupted civilisation


Lots of pretty words there. But the walk doesn't match the talk. And you damn well know it.

White Supremacists have no authority. Knotsies have no authority. White Nationalists have no authority. And you aren't attacking the "submissive" mind. Exactly the opposite. You are attacking those who refuse to be submissive to YOUR tyranny and will in fact stand up to YOUR violent efforts to impose YOUR will and authority on others. As for corrupted civilization -- look in the freaking mirror!!!


we are not trying to 'sell' anyone anything or install new platforms or parties, we seek to steal back our individual liberation without permission


Well of course you're not trying to "sell" anyone anything... you're just resorting to violent terrorist tactics!!!

"...steal back our individual liberation..." -- WTH does that even mean??? The liberty to be a violent thug against your fellow man??? And in the process, enabling and empowering the very authorities and those in positions of real power against the people that you claim to be fighting?

But you go ahead and slap any pretty shade of lipstick you want on that pig... it's still a pig and you're only fooling yourself.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
First, we never claimed to be Patriots, and yes, as anarchist we want to abolish all structures and systems of authority

I'm not so sure--from things that I've read that are attributed to Antifa, the goal is mainly to suckle off the teat of government more than it is to abolish it.

Do you have a direct link to an official Antifa manifesto/goals list to correct that understanding?



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Boadicea

the thing is, we are not trying to impose our 'will' or authority but to abolish all forms of authority, all forms of the submissive mind, and corrupted civilisation


Lots of pretty words there. But the walk doesn't match the talk. And you damn well know it.

White Supremacists have no authority. Knotsies have no authority. White Nationalists have no authority. And you aren't attacking the "submissive" mind. Exactly the opposite. You are attacking those who refuse to be submissive to YOUR tyranny and will in fact stand up to YOUR violent efforts to impose YOUR will and authority on others. As for corrupted civilization -- look in the freaking mirror!!!


we are not trying to 'sell' anyone anything or install new platforms or parties, we seek to steal back our individual liberation without permission


Well of course you're not trying to "sell" anyone anything... you're just resorting to violent terrorist tactics!!!

"...steal back our individual liberation..." -- WTH does that even mean??? The liberty to be a violent thug against your fellow man??? And in the process, enabling and empowering the very authorities and those in positions of real power against the people that you claim to be fighting?

But you go ahead and slap any pretty shade of lipstick you want on that pig... it's still a pig and you're only fooling yourself.


Well stated!
Trump just opened up for the police to get military gear.

Now I already saw a thread bashing Trump for it. But do you know who the blame lies? Not Trump but these lawless idiots who go around shouting "Death to Police" and some of their other childish chants. Problem, Reaction, Solution. IDIOTS!

Thanks idiots, because of your lawlessness, we are now getting a stronger police state!



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Dfairlite

Wrong, Antifa is a synthesis of people of various tendencies, the majority being anarchists, and then communist, socialist. now you even have Demsocs and non-revolutionary tendencies protest under 'Antifascism'

Antifa has always been a decentralised leaderless group, not an organisation

People get caught up in the name "Antifa" but don't realize we are individuals


Who attack and beat anyone regardless of their political bent, simply because MOB MENTALITY.

Pull the other one...



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: seeker1963


Trump just opened up for the police to get military gear.

Now I already saw a thread bashing Trump for it. But do you know who the blame lies? Not Trump but these lawless idiots who go around shouting "Death to Police" and some of their other childish chants. Problem, Reaction, Solution. IDIOTS!

Thanks idiots, because of your lawlessness, we are now getting a stronger police state!


Exactly!!! Just one of many ways they enable and empower the very authorities they claim to be fighting. No doubt many are simply useful idiots... but I'm pretty damn sure others know exactly what they're doing.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

How mature, please, don't hurt my feelings


This is where in bizarro land, groups of "individuals" would start screaming "GAY ISIS GET OUT!" over and over, shouting down anything you have to say. then surround you, attack you, kick you and beat you.

But you're innocent... "GAY ISIS GET OUT!"

antifa are scum.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:55 AM
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So, if you 'anarchists' are against the current form of government, and you have no 'central' leadership, give nothing to the community and have been creating violence I guess it is time to start taking you out one by one.

Are you ready to die for your cause?
Are you ready to watch your friends die for your cause?
Are you ready to go to 'prison', not jail, but prison where you will need to choose a side who does not like you?
Are you ready to kill for your cause?

The time for militias in this country to take one for team as they have stated so often they would has come. You guys playing dress up acting like comic book heroes are soon going to be in for a rude awakening.

As mentioned, the past Administration tried to restrict the local police from what they could have to make sure that it would be easier for those like yourself to move forward. Sad fact is they were expecting HRC to be in office not Trump. It was to be easy to continue anti-US values until there was a new foothold. You were to work hand in hand with Islam and non christian teachings to split the nation further.

Not gonna happen. I predict that in the coming months AntiFa will finally go so far someone will be killed on the 'Right White" side as you call it. When that happens it will finally be what will push the 'crazies' who do believe in the teachings of AB and others to show up and massacre many.

I am not for violence but I am telling you...the writing is on the wall. Hope you are ready to die for something that does not exist.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: matafuchs

I'm sorry ... are you advocating the murder of Americans just because you don't approve of their politics?



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