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ANTIFA, The Patriots (they're not)

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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 04:30 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite


Antifa is a poor name for these idiots.

Gay ISIS is far more descriptive and far more accurate.




posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 04:30 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Yes, there are communist, there are anarchist-communist, there are socialist, there are IWW members, there are anarchists-syndicalists and mutualist, and there are anarchists

"Antifa" is not a "Organisation" as it is a bunch of tendencies that come together for a specific action, as individuals and affinity groups, apart from that we remain with our own goals as anarchists etc



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 04:32 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

How mature, please, don't hurt my feelings


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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 04:34 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

They are? Is that why they march around with soviet flags and burn free speech signs? Is that why they show up to protest speech at colleges? Because they want soviet style anarchy?? LOL

You're not going to fool anyone with half a brain. ANTIFA are communist scum bags.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 04:35 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

LOL anarchist-communists. You are certainly confused.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 04:41 AM
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originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
I would have to say I would lean on the side of antifa if I were forced to choose.

Not that I agree with all of the message they convey, but the current state of affairs and the current system don't quite seem to work so well as you who have your eyes so firmly closed by your devices and the media seem to realize.

I lost my patriotism in a combat zone. Most of you cannot possibly relate.

Y'all do realize "antifa" is short for "anti-fascism" right?, and fascism is not a good thing?.

I guess if you're anti-anti fascism, you must be pro fascism then?.

...Maybe just really, really confused?...



Where were these idiots when Obama forced millions of Americans to buy high priced medical insurance? If You like Antifa then You better pick up a history book and learn what fascism is because Obama was fascist plain and simple but liberals are too dim witted to see it.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 04:41 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

I mean, you are either trolling or full of willful ignorance, how many times do I need to explain this,

ANTIFA ARE A BUNCH OF VARIOUS TENDENCIES THAT COME TOGETHER FOR A SPECIFIC ACTION,

We don't all carry communist flags, the communist do, the anarchist carry black flags, the anarchist-communist carry the black and red flag, the socialist carry the red flag, some carry the Antifa flag

because

WE ARE DIFFERENT TENDENCIES THAT COME TOGETHER FOR A SPECIFIC ACTION

after we continue with our individual goals

it is not that hard to understand



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 04:42 AM
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Anarcho-communism is a theory of anarchism which advocates the abolition of the state, capitalism, wage labour and private property (while retaining respect for personal property)[9] and in favor of common ownership of the means of production, direct democracy and a horizontal network of workers' councils with production and consumption based on the guiding principle: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need".



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 04:43 AM
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a reply to: jkm1864

All politicians are, the State is, and it's enforcers



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 04:49 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

I've already acknowledged that you may certainly be an anarchist, and you and your ilk may be the fools that the communists use, but I'm two (or probably about ten) steps ahead of you. You create chaos for fun, the communists don't. They create chaos for a purpose and that's to force everyone to become their subjects. Head on over to china and try out your anarchist tactics. Or how about North Korea? Let me know how that goes for you.

Just because you are too dense to see that your interests as an anarchist are completely opposed to the interests of communists and that you are fighting a battle which you have no desire to win (much less the means, values, or backing to win) but which helps those who would have you killed or imprisoned for simply thinking the way you do, doesn't make me the ignorant one.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 04:51 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

In no way is that anarchy. They threw that word in there to get gullible fools to go along with it. Anarchy doesn't recognize authority and is the 180 degree inverse of communism. There can be no "anarcho-communism". Without authority there can be no democracy or ownership. Sorry.
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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 05:00 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

Name a communist state that is not a totalitarian? What you say you want is Cambodia's "Year Zero". If so, you are on the extreme side of Communism. If you are a true anarchist you would be an extreme right winger .... since the far side of right is anarchy or close to it.
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posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 05:06 AM
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I like to view the political spectrum as a circle. The bottom center is freedom in a fully constitutional republic, which protects the individual from the state. The top center of the circle is anarchism. To the left of that is communist totalitarianism. To the right of Anarchism is totalitarian theocracy.

A constitutional republic exalts the law. Anarchism exalts the individual. Doesn't get much more opposite than that.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 05:17 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

I usually do the same ... far left and far right will usually end up totalitarian for different reasons. However, it is much easier to illustrate a line for people who do not understand where they themselves stand. For a revolution that leads to Communism, these useful idiots will used to stage it. In the end, once the Communists are in control ..... the Liberals and these people gets the bullets too.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 05:18 AM
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In the end, once the Communists are in control ..... the Liberals and these people gets the bullets too.


Exactly right.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 06:24 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

How mature, please, don't hurt my feelings





Sorry it hurts your feelings, for me I get a laugh because this label will stick, you watch gay isis, its funny and insulting .

You will likely struggle to gain new members as they will be knowingly be joining a group nicknamed gay isis.

Too funny....



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 06:47 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: XAnarchistX

I suggest you take a deep look at who you've cast your lot with. They're communists. You're being used.


So, it's not just one guy? It's all the communists? Not just Soros?



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 06:49 AM
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Thank you for posting this and showing their hearts are as black as their attire.

There is no virtue in Antifa -- and no one is more anti-fascist than I am. But the proof is in the pudding, and their actions do not match their words. They are violent bullies who have found an "acceptable" way to beat people and hurt people and be exactly those people they claim to be against.

Seeker1963 was good enough to post this video yesterday of Joey Gibson and his Patriot Prayer group. This is one of those people Antifa attacked yesterday:


From CBS:

Black-clad protesters wore hoods to conceal their identities as they advanced on Gibson at Sunday’s rally in Berkeley. As Gibson backed away, with his hands in the air, the protesters pepper-sprayed him.

In a video posted by a Berkeley journalist, Gibson is seen retreating down a street along with another man in shoulder pads who appeared to be his bodyguard.

A short time later, police detained Gibson and that second man. Video posted to Twitter showed them in handcuffs and the Los Angeles Times reported Gibson charged officers.

But police told the San Francisco Chronicle this was actually a rescue to protect the two men from the group that was pursuing them.


As I stated, the proof is in the pudding.



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 06:51 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Dfairlite

I mean, you are either trolling or full of willful ignorance, how many times do I need to explain this,

ANTIFA ARE A BUNCH OF VARIOUS TENDENCIES THAT COME TOGETHER FOR A SPECIFIC ACTION,

We don't all carry communist flags, the communist do, the anarchist carry black flags, the anarchist-communist carry the black and red flag, the socialist carry the red flag, some carry the Antifa flag

because

WE ARE DIFFERENT TENDENCIES THAT COME TOGETHER FOR A SPECIFIC ACTION

after we continue with our individual goals

it is not that hard to understand


It's a synthesis! You're all synthesizers!



posted on Aug, 28 2017 @ 07:30 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: XAnarchistX

ANTIFA are NOT anarchists. You personally may be, but as a group they're communists. There's a reason they walk around with hammer and sickle flags. They've been communists since 1932.


I like how you pretend to know what you're talking about with that cute little authoritative tone but all it does is betray your willful ignorance due to your need to denounce AntiFa.

You keep saying "They" as if AntiFa is one massive group with central leadership and organizational structure. It's simply
Not the case at all. In America. For example, there are a couple hundred groups who label themselves AntiFa. Some of them do indeed have a communist leaning, other groups are socialist, while others are anarchists. And there are others where the only common ground or goal is to wake up in the mornin and stomp some Neo Nazis. Using one, broad brush stroke to paint hundreds of seperate groups with varying political ideologies as a unified front with centralized leadership is hilarious! The only political ideology ever publicly espoused by AntiFa related groups is anti-fascism. They aren't promoting a communist agenda as you seem to believe. And to make that claim demonstrates that you don't know what the hell your talking about. But that's probably a result of your generation as you mention you Great grandparents fighting Nazis, that statement betrays your youth so perhaps I was a little harsh calling
You willfully ignorant wen you're just a little wet behind the ears still.

See, the AntiFa movements you see today and declare a direct relationship to and line of descent from 1930's German communists who started the first Anti Fascist Action groups shares no such heritage there. The groups today, trace their origins to the late 1980's and early 90's punk and Hardcore scenes on the East and West coasts of the US. In the late 80's it wasn't even AntiFa yet as the loosely affiliated movement started off as ARA. Anti Racist Action. Each group was centered around local music scenes like NYC, Boston, DC, Albany... up and down the coast as punk and hardcore got
Bigger, so did ARA. By the early 90's the racists were mostly weeded out of the larger hardcore scenes. There were huge bands comprised of Latinos and African Americans but the Fascists still maintained a presence. And while the racists weren't entirely eradicated as shown by the number of White Power skinheads still coming to shoes, for the most part they were forced into a smaller corner of the world and their own subculture, their own record labels to promote and distribute the bands that were into that crap to the idiots that wanted to hear it. But sometimes, in some markets and cities, they still had a presence and the ARA slowly morphed into an updated and new AntiFa. The only thing today's AntiFa shares with 1930's German Communists is an appropriated name and and hatred of fascists. In the 1930's it was Nazis and Brown shirts in Germany, Mussolini's Black Shirts and Mosely's British Union of Fascists. Today it's American Neo-Nazis's, KKK and any other White Power group of scumbags.

I don't expect that having your version of history revised with the truth is going to change anything for you or your approach to political dissidents you disagree with and don't share any values with but if you can be wrong about the big details that you believed to be so true, maybe you'll get off of your high horse and look at the rest to see where you might be wrong. And if not, the information is here for others to make an informed opinion on.



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