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Mars Second Quantum Radio Leak (to pre-vet images) - Anyone remember this?

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posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 01:50 AM
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Hello all,

Firstly, have not been on here for a few years, was mostly very active in the OG Fukushima research megathread, so it's nice to be back. Reason is a question I think only ATS can help with, as googling appears to be memoryholed with zero results, for something that was widely discussed (I have a black belt in google-fu so don't blame me). Nice try, (((google))), you got me even more curious now.


Many years ago, I remember seeing leaks from a NASA insider conclusively proving the Mars lander used a Quantum radio, to send back image thumbnails instantly, before the light speed/transverse radio signals sent the full images to the usual staff. This was evident as the thumbnails were timed 8~14 minutes prior (about the time for light to travel from mars) to the main images.

Does anyone remember the details of this leak and how/why/what?
Any further info would be greatly appreciated.

For newbies to scalar/quantum subjects, such waves can act instantly and only at the interference point in space time. They are not like transverse radio waves which we use daily. Scalar waves are literally the fabric of reality, they will revolutionise future technology once mainstream western acceptance grows further (D-Wave quantum computers are basically quantum receivers based on these principles) and such waves are akin to pushing a row of marbles. You push one end, the other end instantly moves. If you want to learn more, Lt.Col Tom Beardens' material and his book Fer De Lance (available in book form or online in PDF) is a great starting point. This is what Tesla was working on, Thomas Henry Moray was also and T.Gaelen Hieronymus plus a slew of other well hidden researchers with peer reviewed work.


Thank you for your help, ATS.




posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 01:54 AM
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a reply to: GhostR1der

Great thread. Sadly, I do not have an answer but I can give you both a star and a flag to help get the thread noticed.

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posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 02:01 AM
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a reply to: GhostR1der

It wasn't on ATS it ties into the astr0 thread. Astr0 supposedly wrote a blog about it. I have it saved on my old phone. I'll have a look see if I can find it in the morning.
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posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 02:09 AM
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originally posted by: Crumbles
a reply to: GhostR1der

It wasn't on ATS it ties into the astr0 thread. Astr0 supposedly wrote a blog about it. I have it saved on my old phone. I'll have a look see if I can find it in the morning.


I definitely remember a thread about it on ATS. It was a rather lengthy post too iirc. Or it linked off site, but was definitely here in some form.

Hope you do find something, I'd be interested also !!


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posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 02:11 AM
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a reply to: badw0lf

It was on ATS but just the link with a thread. The actual story is on a blog/website the guy created to tell his encounter. I have the blog saved somewhere on an old phone. I just have to dig it out.

Here it is astroengineer.wordpress.com...

I typed in google nasa quantum thumbnail mars blog
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posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 02:19 AM
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a reply to: Crumbles

Ten points to Gryffindor! You legend, thousand thanks! I'd give you a million stars.
Didn't think about thumbnails in search query.
Going to read through this avidly now (again I guess..).


originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: GhostR1der

Great thread. Sadly, I do not have an answer but I can give you both a star and a flag to help get the thread noticed.

P


Thank you so much. I do remember you too, nice to see familiar faces!
Nice to be back home - ATS pushed me in the right direction.


Nice to see you again too, badw0lf!

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posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 02:20 AM
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a reply to: GhostR1der

Glad to help. I have been wanting to revisit this as well.



posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 02:42 AM
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a reply to: GhostR1der

Likewise !! I too was away for a number of years.

And seeing this thread is such a sight for sore eyes.

Cheers mate !



posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 03:48 AM
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That's some cool reading man....props



posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 04:31 AM
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a reply to: GhostR1der
This story is very interesting. Maybe I can add one thing, while reading papers on quantum RADAR and ghost imaging few years ago, It was said that using a source of entangled photon were no longer required, it was found that even uncoherent source like the Sun exhibited some sort of statistical entanglement that could be exploited to produce usefull effect. I really don't know if I'm confabulating. Will scrub my computer to try to find the paper(s).



posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 04:40 AM
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a reply to: Crumbles

Yeah this was something certainly worth revisiting and has been itching in the back of my mind for a very long time. Been looking to begin a collaborative research project, involving quantum communication initially, then delve in to power and the rest of the naughty capabilities that they don't want us to have.

My reasoning is this - with the internet and sheer volumes, there are far too many of us who have some grasp of this concept and tech now for them to silence. I have years of info and peer reviewed, proven examples laying around collecting dust, which should be shared in a compiled manner with the world, however am also wary of this information falling to the wrong hands and being used for nefarious purposes - quite a tricky decision. It has taken me over a decade to compile it all, noting all the similarities between tens of unrelated experiments and findings. Once you start seeing the patterns, it becomes easy to connect them.

When only one person doing it solo, it's easy to silence them. When hundreds of us are all involved, collaborating either openly or anonymously, it becomes a real thorn in their side and very hard to squash. Some have been mulling this over amongst anons on 8ch.net/tok/ and now /pol/ (also privately) but this could be a good venue also, as 8ch is likely to be shut down soon, hence preparations for i2p/p2p/tor backup right this moment. Hence the renewed quantum communication interest, in order to make our own text/image capable, censorship free internet...
The writing is on the wall; first they came for the racists and no one said anything. Then they came for the white nationalists and no one said a thing. Then they will come for the national socialists and most will say nothing, now they are also going for anything to the right of Karl Marx... and we won't be able to say anything. I've seen totally politically unrelated channels being squashed the last few days under very vague reasoning, so it is happening regardless of if we like it or not. To the point where it seems they are even going after left leaning groups who are anti-war, together, left or right, we are all bad for their business. With efforts like this, we have a common ground to unite and fight the system, I think they have overlooked this and am utterly convinced it will fail and backfire, as the normal people are trampled in the process. The internet sees censorship as damage and literally routes around it. My concern is when they steal the DNS/domain level capabilities to do this, forcing us to i2p/p2p/tor as mentioned prior, which is exactly what is occuring. Next when that fails, they can go to ISP level, then we are screwed. So, we must secure means to work around this as a backup. Our own fibre system is cost prohibitive yet possible but can be screwed with. Launching our own satellites is also in the same boat. Packet based HAM/radio is in the same boat - easily jammed. Quantum radio however, is not, it is the only frontier we have left to secure our freedom of speech, association and communication, regardless of what pieces of paper they draft up and laws they make. It is literally the only way out of this mess if they do not fail at their current tasks (I believe they will fail but do not leave things to chance).
Judging by some of the political topics here, ATS will be eventually in the firing line too.
I am a staunch supporter of free speech, especially free speech I disagree with. I may not agree with other people but I wholly agree with their right to say it, no matter how inflammatory, offensive or derogatory it may be.

They are forcing us in to a corner and so now it is time for more desperate measures. Ones I hoped would not be needed.

a reply to: badw0lf

Interesting how we all have a little hiatus from time to time like that.
Found it became all much of a muchness, you learn so many esoteric secrets and hidden things that it becomes hard to find new things or perhaps blends together a little.
Another avenue I'd love to look down again is Hieronymus machine replication efforts or similar that were being undertaken here around 2011-2012. But that's a subject for another thread



posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 06:10 AM
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, I remember seeing leaks from a NASA insider conclusively proving the Mars lander used a Quantum radio, to send back image thumbnails instantly, before the light speed/transverse radio signals sent the full images to the usual staff. This was evident as the thumbnails were timed 8~14 minutes prior (about the time for light to travel from mars) to the main images.


Could be ... but It could also be that Mars is on Earth meaning Devon Island.

Wasn't Lt.Col Tom Bearden the guy that talked to Sigma five's ? I'm at a deadend Anyone know what happened to the sigma five now ?
Also remember some John Tr(ump) Tesla connection with regard to Scalar waves.Was Burkhard heim also 'into' Scalar waves ? He claimed in 45 that he could travel to mars in 3 days ?

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posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: GhostR1der
Search in ats: has NASA developed instantaneous communication. I don't know how to link my old thread.



posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 08:29 AM
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posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 08:36 AM
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Here are a couple of ATS threads on the subject:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...


EDIT:
I see Jeep3r beat me to it, at least beat me to my second linked thread.



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posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: GhostR1der

The Astroengineer didn't last long on telling his story on ATS or on his blog. We don't need to ponder why. In the recent news the Chinese claim to have successfully communicated quantumly with one of their satellites. A few weeks before that there was another release from China about their abilities to do quantum communications. And just last week some came from Australia about some underwater project that furthered the mysterious science. What all of these subsequent stories tell us is that the astroengineer was probably absolutely correct in what he was revealing.



posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: GhostR1der

The Astroengineer didn't last long on telling his story on ATS or on his blog. We don't need to ponder why. In the recent news the Chinese claim to have successfully communicated quantumly with one of their satellites. A few weeks before that there was another release from China about their abilities to do quantum communications. And just last week some came from Australia about some underwater project that furthered the mysterious science. What all of these subsequent stories tell us is that the astroengineer was probably absolutely correct in what he was revealing.



Except that none of those involve any FTL nonsense.

The astroengineer story is nothing but fiction, exploiting the fact that most people don't know jack about quantum mechanics.



posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: moebius

Very correct.

The Chinese experiments is to do with Quantum Encryption - generation of encryption and decryption keys for secure communication.

It has absolutely nothing related to using it for sending actual data,or anything else.

When it comes to anything with the word quantum in it, people have no idea what they're talking about. At all.

Everything in Aliensun's statement is 100%...bogus.



posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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So... yay or nay?



posted on Aug, 27 2017 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: moebius

FTL nonsense?

Seems to me that the entire notion of quantum entanglement is that you make a change to one atom and that change is instantaneously made to it's partner/entangled atom. Hence, the advantage of such a notion for communication.

Time doesn't seem to come into play in this. FTL, or not.

I just love it when smearing words are used, like nonsense.



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