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There is a very big difference between the way people see Auschwitz and the way many White Southerners, at least, see Confederate Generals posed triumphantly on horses. Auschwitz serves as a reminder of those who suffered, while the Confederate statues glorify those who fought for continued suffering. You will notice that there are no triumphant looking statues of Hitler in Germany.
There is, however, a far more accurate analogy to be made here. Imagine if, in Germany, 50 years after WWII, groups of Holocaust deniers did put up statues of Adolph Hitler looking triumphant? And then got mad that people wanted to tear them down, because how dare they not remember history?
Well, that is exactly what happened in the United States after the Civil War. The Lost Cause of the Confederacy is revisionist history just like Holocaust Denial is. It is also about as accurate.
Germany, as you may know, bans people from promoting Holocaust Denialism. After the Civil War, America did the exact opposite. It allowed the Lost Cause bull# to proliferate, believing that it would help the nation to heal. Lost Causers were allowed to pretend that not only was the war about more than just slavery (it was not), that it was noble in some way, but also that slavery wasn’t really all that bad anyway.
Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
mendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: Gryphon66
But what about statues commemorating the poor sods who never owned slaves, but were conscripted to fight in the confederate army anyway?
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: fiverx313
What does Auschwitz have to do with anything?
What you people don't seem to understand is that nobody is denying what the statues represent. Suck or not, bad or good, history should be preserved the way it was cemented.
Context shouldn't matter at all.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: fiverx313
A federal law raised the status of Confederate soldiers to the same level as US vets. It allows for gravestones and statues to be erected and they are protected just as any other war memorial is.
All confederate soldiers were pardoned by the President with the exception of political leadership and some generals.
This is not like 2 countries going to war and one country winning. The war was with ourselves and you will not find another moment in time where our civil war is repeated for the same reasons.
It is our history. For better or worse, it is our history and we need to own it.
Not hide it.
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: fiverx313
What does Auschwitz have to do with anything?
What you people don't seem to understand is that nobody is denying what the statues represent. Suck or not, bad or good, history should be preserved the way it was cemented.
Context shouldn't matter at all.
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Gryphon66
Are you claiming now that erecting statues is a speech act?
Sure was when it comes to throwing cross's in urine and calling it art.
Like that didn't snip off a billion Christians.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: Gryphon66
But what about statues commemorating the poor sods who never owned slaves, but were conscripted to fight in the confederate army anyway?
Can you point out the poor sods who believed in White Supremacy from the ones who didn't? Can you point out the ones who, although they were poorer and didn't own other people, still fully believed in the "peculiar institution" as Vice President Stephens put it?
I can't myself. It's a good question. Maybe you can find out where those statues of those folks are and get back to us?
We could discover which ones were installed in support of Segregation and in support of the Confederacy's values of Slavery and White Supremacy though, right?